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    Tuesday, July 21


    His enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat.

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    Matt. 13:25.




    Jesus warned that a newly planted field of wheat (anointed Christians) would be oversown with weeds (imitation Christians).
    The groups, he said, would be allowed to grow side by side—undisturbed until the harvest, which would come at

    “a conclusion of a system of things.â€￾ (
    Matt. 13:24-30, 36-43)

    It was not long before Jesus’ words began to come true.

    The apostasy made some inroads in the first century, but Jesus’ faithful apostles acted
    “as a restraint,â€￾
    holding back the contamination and influence of false teachings.
    (2 Thess. 2:3, 6, 7)

    However, once the last of the apostles died, the apostasy took root and flourished during a long growing season that lasted
    for many centuries. Additionally, during that time, the weeds became many and the blades of wheat were few.
    There was no consistent, organized
    channel for dispensing spiritual food. However, that would eventually change.

    w13
    7/15 3:13, 14

     
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    Looks like Fred Franz removal is the last of the "restraint" in modern form, that allowed the UN NGO Bethel weeds to fully sprout.

    So in the "ten virgins" we have a noticeable "while the Bridegroom was delaying" and a new JW "all of them nodded off" "nap" cycle due to the Bethel weed override.

    Thus all those prophecies repeat with the coming temple judgment, and the "ten virgins" parable will parallel it in final form when Daniel 11:41 comes on Bethel as Daniel 8:13-14.

    Of course the weeds at Bethel are not going to apply the modern weedy UN allied apostasy to themselves.

    Instead David Splane is going to waste two hours of our time, telling WHY TO IGNORE ALL MODERN PARABLES AND PROPHECY!

    And there you have a fake anointed WEED, in action in the GB UN sellout apostates and impostors.

    Even now, it is all repeating in the apostasy element emerging as it leads to the temple judgment, not "the end" JWs expect as Bethel is who now promotes the main delusion as a smokescreen:

    (2 Thessalonians 2:1-2) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.

    And if we want a commendation, we find the Bethel LIARS in all these developments now:

    (Revelation 2:2) ‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.

    The weed pulling operation coming up, from God and Christ, is how the Daniel 8:14 "right condition" will be met, from this final apostate manifestation "in the temple".

    The GB=FDS latest global public blatant example of the "lifting themselves over everyone", in 2012-2013, is the GB apostate "sit down" "int he temple" here, in modern form, as UN-Bethel joins UN-Christendom in UN sponsorship as UN NGO:

    (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “godâ€￾ or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god.

    Everything is now set for Bethel downfall. So get out NOW. (Matt24:15)

    Because Bethel will use the org to toss some JWs into internment when Daniel 11:41 goes full blown on the JW org as Daniel 8:13:


    ""Figuratively speaking, however, God’s people will flee to the refuge that Jehovah provides."" (WT 07/15/2015, pg. 16, par. 7-8)

    WT quote (WT 11/15/2013, pg. 20, par. 17, #3):

    “â€￾Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:…

    [And sandwiched into the admonishment:]

    (3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.


    Obviously Bethel is planning to use the org, to herd JWs to capture. Get out NOW.
     
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    I bounce between frameworks a lot 4winds, so I'm mostly with you -- but a challenge:

    What is the real significance of the UN fiasco?

    Hypocrisy, absolutely. Apostasy? I'm not sure ...

    Franz basically developed the depths of the 1914 framework didn't he? If 1914 is the violation of 2 Thess 2 (ultimately, a 'false parousia'), then how can Franz both be the restraint and the key promulgator of the false parousia?


    How would you respond? (these are the things I wrestle with)
     
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    1914 is not the delusion. The current "it can end tomorrow brothers!" is the more deadly delusion, because that is what they will smokescreen the fall of Bethel with.

    See, they did not just go UN NGO, they also covered up that 1990 3rd UN event is prophecy at Daniel 11:30-31, and Daniel 8:23. And the real King North, synonymous "King Fierce in Countenance" is defined when the USSR kissed the UN feet in 1990, and then failed (Dan11:27). King North is UN globalists forming world government, not the USSR. Which UN-Bethel conceals as well.

    Daniel 11:30-45 is thus the 3rd (1990) and 4th (future) UN requirements. Daniel 8:23-25 is also the final two UN events.

    So as per Daniel 8:12, Daniel 11:32a, Bethel is concealing important UN 1-2-3-4 prophecy, and the real "King North" globalist intel is INSIDE of Bethel as per Daniel 11:41. But Daniel 11:41, and Daniel 8:11, will also go full blown in anti-JW-org takedown events of Daniel 8:13 "trampling".

    Thus JWs will think, it is "the end".

    And that is why this modern delusion and truncation work of UN continuum is now more significant.

    It will not be "the end", it will be 7th King fall (Dan11:42-43), to allow 8th King world government rise (Dan11:44-45; Rev13:3; Rev17:8-18 full sequence). And it will take waylaid JWs, under heavy delusion and org attack of Daniel 11:41 (NOT Dan11:44), significant time to catch on to the reality of coming world government.

    JWs are duped and soon to be fully derailed under a severe hoax of 2 Thess2:1-2, and that well well before the real end.

    World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ's arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

    Ultimately that is the simple truth, Bethel is concealing, as the KN boys hope to keep it a big secret as long as they can, actually as along as God permits. (Dan8:14; Rev10:11)

    There is a lot of intel supports inside and outside of Bethel, to aid the global-JW-Org-coup and attempted capture of as many JWs as they can get in the JW org trap, hence Matthew 24:15.

    Hence that WT just quoted, above.

    They want to lull JWs into the final phase, and keep them in the trap, then spring it in that "interval" of Wt 7/15/15.

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    Basically, JWs are under a post 1990, 1976 GB led, total ministerial subversion and cover up operation, being led to a downfall JW org coup, to be cloaked as long as possible in a true 2Thess2:1-2 JW "the end" hoax, that is an "end" several years away at that time, to crunch the JW org, so they never fully expose the final two UN prophecies properly.

    But they fail (Dan11:32b), hence the "second witness" of the "two witnesses".

    It is the coup of Daniel 8:11, Dan11:41, and Daniel 8:13 specifics for the timed temple judgment of Daniel 8:14,26, to produce, by required desolation, the temple "right condition" and the eventual full final "little scroll" explanation as the true final warning. (Rev9-11:1-7)

    They will try, but fail (Hos1:4-7; Hos6:1-3) to wipe out all JWs. (Zech3:2) They may get the whole org, we do not know yet, it is not looking good at this time.
     
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    Now the real UN NGO significance is like this principle of a permitted divine judgment, known by the enemy:

    (Isaiah 36:10) 10 And now is it without authorization from Jehovah that I have come up against this land to bring it to ruin? Jehovah himself said to me, ‘Go up against this land, and you must bring it to ruin.’â€

    The UN NGO "transgression causing desolation" of Daniel 8:13, now secures for the enemy system INSIDE of Bethel (Dan11:32a), a sure "trampling" permission from God, as the UN NGO partnered "disgusting thing causing desolation" will cause that desolation to the JW organization first. (1Pet4:17; Dan11:41; Dan8:13)

    The enemy inside of Bethel, just tells JWs: "everything is fine brothers!, it was just a library card, no worries, all's good!"; And many JWs by that cover, rather than flee as they "catch sight" of that bad UN NGO "disgusting thing". (Matt24:15)


    The 3rd UN manifestation of 1990 is a prophecy (Dan11:31b; Dan8:23), and that is also why UN-Bethel conceals the true significance of that propehcy and the UN "New World Order" mantra phase amplified after 1990, and Bethel UN NGO joined it instead, plugging that NWO mantra into JW "constant feature" for 10 solid years, covert, rather than expose it (Matt24:15), like Rutherford did, as the first of this NWO exposure:


    Brother JF Rutherford Exposes the "New World Order":

    ""The new world means more than the nations realize. It calls for more than THEY can muster. The bald fact is that they do not want it. For that reason the promised new world of lasting peace, which world shall be what all lovers of right want, should not be confused with the so-called "new order" or "new world order" which is today held up by political and religious dictators as a lure to the people. The righteous new world is the very opposite of that selfish and ambitious human scheme. ""

    ""Such scheme seeks realization by harsh, brutal might, by the destruction of millions of lives and peaceful homes, by the forcing of the common people contrary to their conscience and personal free choice, and, for shame! by the co-operation of religion to persuade the subjected peoples that such "new order" is according to the will of Almighty God. Set up by such means and ways and for such purposes, that proposed "order" could never be the expression of the will of a God of truth and justice. It shall never endure, even though backed up by religion. Because it stands in the way of the new world and poses as a counterfeit substitute for it, that "order" shall go down, and its allies with it."" (The New World; 1942, pg. 10)

    pg. 126:


    ""The "new world order" proposed by scheming men is the "abomination of desolation" which aims to stand in the holy place of God's kingdom. Both the prophet Daniel and Christ Jesus foretold it as marking the approach of the FINAL END and therefore the time to make all haste and flee to The Theocratic Government under Christ Jesus. (Daniel 11: 31; 12:11; Matthew 24:15-21) ""

    ""That attempted "new world order" which is pushed forward in opposition to and as a substitute for God's new world under "The King of kings and Lord of lords" is the final expression of the antichrist. Do not look for the antichrist to be an individual man or beast. It is that "new order" organization. The antichrist is here, and its appearance marks the "last time" for this world."" (The New World; 1942, pg. 126)


    Thus both the League of Nations, and the United Nations, were to be fully exposed by true anointed Christian Messianic Kingdom "ambassadors substituting for Christ" from 1921 to 1945-1990. They did NOT join the UN, as modern sellout UN NGO Bethel has done from with (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12) JWs to say nothing. That 3rd UN event was supposed to also be fully exposed, but Bethel went UN compromised to cover it up, as UN NGO, instead. (Dan11:30b-32a; Dan8:12)


    In the old days, anointed Christians and JWs exposed it as prophecy properly. Jehovah's witnesses were thus exposing the United Nations connection to the "New World Order" as well, for what it is, like JW Rutherford was doing "taking the lead", for quite some time.


    But no more.

    Now Bethel has joined the NWO mantra as UN NGO United Nations global sponsors, and JWs are totally silent on that UN 3rd placement meaning, as UN NGO co-supporters of this cover up. (Dan8:12b)


    And that is why God will now give the JW organization to the trampling as Daniel 8:13-14 for that UN NGO serious "transgression". And as per Isaiah 36:10, the enemy at Bethel KNOWS they get the org to desolate it.


    But as with the Assyrian of old, God will not allow JWs globally to also be destroyed, he will deliver JWs globally, as Hosea 1:4-7, Micah 5:5-7, Isaiah 31:8-9:


    (Isaiah 31:9) . . .And his own crag will pass away out of sheer fright, and because of the signal his princes must be terrified,†is the utterance of Jehovah, whose light is in Zion and whose furnace is in Jerusalem.

    (Hosea 1:7) . . .But to the house of Judah I shall show mercy, and I will save them by Jehovah their God; but I shall not save them by a bow or by a sword or by war, by horses or by horsemen.â€

    This is because the UN boys get the JW org (Dan11:41; Dan8:13), and like Assyria they will be put down when they try to over extend that judgment, just as in Isaiah 36:10. They want to take the JW org, and all JWs globally, hence all those "obey the org as crazy as it sounds" set ups they have in the JW mind, to try to capture as many as they can, by use of the JW org, now a trap, hence Matthew 24:15. But God only gives them the org, not JWs. (Hos1:4-7) But they are going to try for the whole, anyways, just as in the Assyrian principle of trying to dupe Jerusalem in Isaiah 36, but that did nto work for them, did it?


    When it comes time for Christ to come into the temple again (Mal3:1-5; Zech3:4-5; Rev9:1-4), then the enemy IN the system, will meet covert neutralization (Isa66:6), so as to allow the "right condition" purification to be met as per Daniel 8:14. And to also allow the final warning to come forth (Rev9-11), and God will send them the PM that He is now back "in the temple".

    Some external aids will also be taken out at that time (the time the "evening" of Daniel 8:13 ends its full JW rg "trampling" course), but it will be that "terrifying signal" to that 8th King UN planner "crag" at Bethel (Rev8:8-9), and it is going to get very real for them, and that is why God fully permits the "operation of error" (2Thess2:11-12), so they come fully into his trap (where they are now, in the JW org), as they are in Bethel-global, and externally supporting this operation.


    As it nears, God gives them full fair warning what happens when the 3.19 year "evening" of Daniel 8:14 permitted anti-JW-org "trampling" is ceased by God and Christ, to secure the recovery for the true final warning.


    (Isaiah 37:36) And the angel of Jehovah proceeded to go forth and strike down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians. When people rose up early in the morning, why, there all of them were dead carcasses.

    (Isaiah 66:6) There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies.



    The UN NGO secures the attempted to maybe full destruction of the JW org, but after that has run its Daniel 8:13-14 course as Daniel 11:41 full blown, for they already have "entered the Decoration" (Matt24:15; Dan11:32a), then they will meet precise angelic purging "unforeseen occurrence" as God clears them from the temple locale. (Mal3:1-5; Zech3:4-5; Rev9:1-4; Hos1:7)

    Some of these guys will never see the light of day again, let's put it that way. The modern Bethel "operation of error" is "neutralized" and ceased, to be exposed in time, fully and globally. (2Thess2:8; Rev8)


    In the process a great global signal will form, as JW org downfall. BUT the end does NOT arrive immediately (Matt24:6; Luke 21:9), instead Bethel is exposed as UN apostates and impostors (Rev8:7-12), and that is "chapter 1" of the"little scroll" final warning, as both the 3rd (1990; Dan11:31b; Dan8:23) and 4th UN (future world government; Dan11:45; Dan8:25) prophecies will be explained fully, and properly, as all Daniel 11:30-45, and Daniel 8:23-25,are 3rd UN to 4th UN required "successful" continuums (Dan11:36), to full 8th King/King North/King Fierce in Countenance: world government.


    In the meantime they will continue to sell the 7th King required downfall phase to JWs (Dan11:42-43), as if "the end" as Daniel 11:44-45 applied too soon(2Thess2:1-2), but it is not the end quite so soon, as JWs will find out in time. (Dan8:14; Luke21:9)It is not "the end" but of Bethel apostasy, and 7th King national sovereignty, 8th King "scarlet wildbeast" world government will be what comes next as the Revelation 17:18-18 cycle unfolds as one whole final sequence. (Rev11:7)



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    World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ's arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes.That takes several more years.
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    That is what they have been concealing from JWs this whole post 1990, UN NGO, time.



    For now, Bethel is a bUNch of UN packing frauds (Dan11:32a), securing the JW org desolation by divine decree of Daniel 8:13 (Hos1:4-7), for the UN NGO, which is no innocent affair. God will give JW org to the "trampling" of Daniel 8:13-14. Then Christ will come out (Mal3:1-5; Zech3:4-8), in covert"Destroyer" form, to pay the visit to these ops and weed "evil slave" "five foolish virgins" all mixed into the JW global logistic system.


    Then Revelation 9 parallel "abyss" opens up for the anointed in this judgment (Matt25:1-13), to the "morning" enlightenment (Dan8:14,26),of the final warning just emerging (Rev9-10), as all Revelation 8-11 repeats inexact 1-7 "trumpet" order. Which manifestation Revelation 8 is the temple judgment of Daniel 8:13-14, and JWs will get four trumpets of Bethel UN apostate exposure blared in their faces, to repent, and get with reality of Revelation 9-11:1-7, to unfold en route to 8th King world government to eventually fully complete, as foretold. (Rev10:11 "prophesy AGAIN",hence TWO "witnessings", 1914-1918, and the future)


    What "evil slave" Bethel is now doing is setting up JWs for capture (WT11/15/13), priming their heads with the premature "the end" delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (WT 7/15/15), to smokescreen the global destruction of the WTBTS corporate complex as if "the end", and Daniel 11:44 activating way too soon, when it will be Daniel 11:41 JW org "invasions", permitted by God.


    Then they just toss "JW Jonah" into the global stormy "sea" and waves of the start of the global "tribulation of those days" as 7th King King South starts to fall (Dan11:42-43), and let them figure it out later.


    JWs will be orgless, scattered (Zech13:7), and totally bewildered for the whole"evening" of Daniel 8:13, the Revelation 9 final fulfillment cycle"abyss" darkness period, the 3 year sign of JW Jonah as Daniel 8:13fully runs its Hosea 6:1-3 course. (Isa37:30; Dan8:26)


    And King North INSIDE of Bethel (Dan11:32a), KNOWS they get the JW org, to trash itas best they can, for those 3.19 years of Daniel 8:13 "evening"(Dan8:26), as Daniel 11:41 activates as Matthew 24:15 temple judgment comes of apostate JW org "Jerusalem" modern UN allied locale.


    All the while they just tell JWs "it is the end brothers! Please go where we tell you to go in this process!!" (WT 7/15/15), and many JWs will listen to the UN Pied Pipers of Bethel internal "son of destruction" betrayers. (2Thess2:1-4) It will be a HUGE JW hoax, not the end, but of apostate Bethel's "a system of things" in weed purge going full blown, globally, on JWs. (Matt13:36-42)


    That is what the ramifications of the UN NGO will bring, soon. And it will be of"prophetic proportions" as the JW org goes into the UN grinder. But the good news is, ti will be quite a signal of the final cycle trek to 8th King/King North world government, and thus Christ full arrival after the 1260 days final warning is given.


    Several years remain, and JWs are now set up from within, for the perfect storm on the JW org, as they sell that to JWs as long as they can, as "it is THE END brothers!!!!". But it will not actually yet be the true end, just the global crisis of the 7th King required downfall. They have the perfect smokescreen and exit strategy in place, to down the org, with as little JW resistance as possible, for JW will actually thing it is "the end",for quite some time, until it dawns on them (Hos6:1-3; Rev9:1-4), as the Bethel forecast fails, big time. (Dan8:14)

    In reality, the final cycle will just be beginning, as per 1 Peter 4:17. (Rev8:3-5)
     
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    Thanks 4winds, it is fascinating to think about.

    I'm not sure that the UN situation tracks with the original 'abomination causing desolation' though -- in that case, Antiochus IV overtly attacked the Jewish religious system and placed a statue of Zeus in the temple.

    And more importantly, killed anyone found with a Torah.

    I would expect the 'ultimate' fulfillment of this prophecy to be not only similar (public foreign input into the temple) but on a much grander scale.

    As-is, the UN situation with the WTBS is a pot-hole on a highway; not something oppressing the worship of Jehovah, just a slight misdirect in the prophecies and a hypocritical action.

    We'll see though ... you're probably on to something regarding the UN situation as a starting point to a larger apostasy. Perhaps through an early-end to the ministry when wrong prophetic frameworks are put forward.

    [which you mentioned taken from the Watchtower coming up when "that will not be a time to preach"]
     
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    Thanks SingleCell,

    Yes that "pot hole's" significance is not their size, but now they have adjoined the Christendom error like Ezekiel 23, where Bethel is the Oholibah younger harlot.

    This means ALL of corporate Christianity is now subverted for the wildbeast agenda. The bad news is, Bethel just joined a far more extensive global apostasy, just as well hidden as is the significance of them sponsoring the UN, post 1990, "NWO" campiagn as UN NGO. They just joined the far larger BTG UN ride as well, and they are also an example of "two horned wildbeast" planners who must be involved INSIDE of Bethel (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12), because no way can this now just be a big accident.

    So yes, Bethel is part of a far larger global wildbeast acceptance and cover up phase and operation.

    A final global "sword-stroke" phase seems to be required, and if that is the case the UN will go into the "abyss" a final time (by design), and "ascend" as full world government as both of the Revelation global wildbeast admiration prophecies, parallel, when in final form of the future "sword stroke" "healing" recovery (Isa41:1):

    (Revelation 13:3) . . .And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

    (Revelation 17:8) . . .The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world.

    Solving this "tribulation of those days" global crisis "sword stroke" phase "problem", "healing" for the then hopeful and "admirable" world government "solution" "ascension", in the same process, is the meaning. It is the same "problem" "solution" formula in all world war cycles, whether destructive (WW1; WW2) or constructive phases (Cold War).

    That is why the Cold War resolution, and the "cold" surrender of the USSR by forfeit dissolution, must also be in propehcy in that 1990 period. It opened the global gates of full globalization (Rev16:13-16 "gathering"), when joined by all the former big socialist economy models scrapped for late-capitalism to aid globalization, like Russia, China and India. (Dan11:29 "cold war" phase, Daniel 11:30-32a, apostasy and 3rd UN placement)

    At Bethel? "No comment".

    So JWs are just in a derailed stall for the moment.

    But in time Revelation 17:8-18 full sequence, must run in full final world government true "8th King" producing form, to "ascend" world government in full. Basically 8th King "rises" on 7th King "fall", plain and simple, it is not yet "the end".

    And that is why, as per 2Thess2:1-2, subverted apostate UN-Bethel merely hypes "its the end brothers!" "to the effect the day of Jehovah is here" (too soon), to aid the the big JW hoax smokescreen of this critical bypass(**, below) completing:


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    Four 8th King UN Cycles to World Government - 1919-Future


    UN 1. 1919 - Rev13:11-15 (Dan12:11 first fulfillment) as League ofNations after WW1;

    A. International Bible Students Association (IBSA) explained as prophecy;

    UN 2. 1945 - Rev17:8-11 as United Nations after WW2;

    A. Jehovah's Witnesses (JW) explained as prophecy;

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    Unknown and unstated by Jehovah's witnesses, due to Bethel subversions:
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    UN 3. 1990 - Daniel 11:31b as United Nations "New World Order" Initiativeafter WW3 (Cold War) (Dan11:29);

    A. Covered up by Bethel as UN NGO, not explained as prophecy by any religiousgroup;

    [We are Here...]

    UN 4. Future - Daniel 11:45; Daniel 8:25; (Daniel 12:11 last fulfillment) as UnitedNations and World Government after 4th world tribulation/war cycle to come.

    A. Not currently explained by Bethel in lieu of a premature "end of theworld" deception. (2Thess2:1-2)

    B. To be explained after the JW temple judgment desolation, purification andremoval of lawless Bethel engineered subversion (2Thess2:1-4; Dan11:30-31;Dan8:11-13);
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    That is also why the judgment merely starts with the house of God first (1Pet4:17; Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14; Rev8), to route the MOL at Bethel out of the way, first, to allow the final reality to come forth (Rev9-11), within 1260 days of world government gone full blown "ascended" in Revelation 11:7, which "abyss" "ascension" here below, is the parallel of Revelation 17:8-12, to the symbolic and brief "one hour" of final wildbeast 8th King global reign:


    (Revelation 11:7) . . .And when they have finished their (1260 days complete) witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them. (Dan11:44; parallel Dan8:25)

    Thus Daniel 12:11 has BOTH of that criteria:

    (Daniel 12:11) . . .“And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed ((1) final witness removal; Rev11:7; 13:5-7) and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation ((2) full world government), there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    BOTH of those criteria met, activates that final 1290 days, and that is pretty much how long their "one hour" is, no wonder it is a brief final 8th King/King North reign.

    Revelation 11:11-12 Christ arrival, some time in Daniel 12:11 active, activates Revelation 14, post Christ arrival, final sequence of it all.


    So Daniel 11:44 (Rev11:7 attack parallel) under Daniel 11:45 world government, merges into Daniel 12 all the way to Daniel 12:11 world government parallel. (Rev17:8-12; Dan11:45; Dan8:25)

    BTG then goes down after the "two witnesses" final warning is ceased. (Rev16:12,19-20; Rev17:15-18; Rev14:8)

    Thus much has yet to take place, and much will eventually emerge from the Bethel pyre of "trampling" as Daniel 8:13-14 as Daniel 11:41 going full blown. (Since they have already "entered" the decoration to effect all this subversion, the corporate downign of Bethel is just the coup going literal, and full blown, for which JWs are also misled to think is "the end" context. (WT11/15/13; WT 7/15/15))

    In that way JWs can watch Bethel be pillaged, and think it is something else (Dan11:44 too soon), and thereby do nothing to stop it, but only "obediently" aid the whole coup process, to potential capture. (Hence WT 11/15/13, pg. 20, par 17, #3):

    (3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.




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