Anointed witnesses

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    Hello all I have decided to post a website link here on this forum because I do believe that the material on this site could be of much value for those who are really pursuing the truth.

    They are active Jehovah's Witnesses as I understand but understand God's Kingdom and the Good news from a different perspective.

    I'll post the link below for any who are interested in perusing this site.

    Welcome! From Anointed Witnesses
     
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    Although it looks interesting at first, the content of that website is childish, seriously lacking of a high spiritual vision of things and their conclusions scripturally harebrained.

    I read a few articles on that website a few months ago and was extremely disappointed.
     
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    To simple for you aye :)

    well it appeals to me that is why I posted the link to it.

    But then again I am a simple person and their message does resonate with me and apparently quite a few of the anointed including anointed elders.

    But that is my perspective on it, you obviously are looking for more meat prophetic wise. They tend to steer away from interpreting prophecy and for good reason to.
     
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    Well, I'm not more interested in prophetic matters than in other doctrinal and more spiritual ones. I'd rather say that that's the contrary. I naturally tend to let others decipher how the prophecies will get fulfilled mainly because I consider that, although some of our anointed b/s do have specific and unvaluable gifts in that regard (like Robert or NewWorld, for example), much of what we can read here and there about said prophecies is purely speculation and similar to Si-Fi novels...

    In my opinion, there is still too much speculation for making me think that the Holy Spirit has revealed to men what's in store in the future. The HS won't reveal such important matters in detail to one person only (never has in the past and the prophets of old aren't necessarily a pattern anymore in that regard), although I deem possible that some may have enough HS to get close to the truth. Luck might also be a decisive factor because as I always said, even a stopped watch is right twice a day... but no one can claim to have God's favor if luck made them get closer to the truth...

    As for the owners of that website, that's a good thing that they steer away from interpretating prophecy, given the poor level of their current understanding on doctrinal issues... That limits the damages... lol
     
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    I think they have some interesting insight, but what puts me off about them is their reliance on the "Book of Urantia", that was produced by means of spiritualistic channeling. One can't be eating at two tables ...

    Eden
     
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    Ah? They're the ones (the written source... the pot smokers... lol) who mention that book ? :confused:

    Yes, I had enjoyed some of the first articles that I had read on their website but the more I was reading, the more it was "smelling" weird, concocted. A bit later, a friend of mine with whom I was having a discussion about them showed me a few glaring mistakes which I hadn't come across yet in their theories and after having read more, I got extremely disappointed by their conclusions and I didn't go on reading their work as I was considering it henceforth a waste of time.

    There is an intrinsic beauty, a compelling harmony that stands out everytime we come across genuine biblical truths. In my opinion, there is no ring of truth in their biblical argumentation, no spiritual high-mindedness, no decisively outstanding conclusions that would incite me to question my faith.

    And definitively, as usual, I don't like when people having drawn certain "revolutionary" conclusions incite gullible people to take decisions that may have terrible consequences in their lives.

    When someone is anointed, he knows it and feels it deep inside, like an overwhelming part of his identity, just like he knows what his name is, just like he knows that he's a man (or a woman for sisters). Although some genuinely anointed individuals may be so bashed and brain-washed by the family or mocking members of the congregation that they aren't anointed because they supposedly don't live up to what is commonly accepted as such and then may begin to have doubts, if someone is undecisive or wavering in determining what his call is shows unquestionably that he isn't. Here, there aren't grey positions, it's either black or white.

    Futureman, I'm not blaming you here for putting faith in their theories. I'm blaming them.
     
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    Argh, I didn't know that the time limit for modifications was 30 mn only and I wanted to rephrase that sentence for more readability when I was prohibited to do so.

    When someone is anointed, he knows it and feels it deep inside, like an overwhelming part of his identity, just like he knows what his name is, just like he knows that he's a man (or a woman for sisters). Although some genuinely anointed individuals may be so bashed and brain-washed (by the relatives (Mark3:21, 6:4) or mocking members of the congregation who may tell them that they aren't anointed because they supposedly don't live up to what is commonly accepted as such) that they may, as a result, begin to have doubts, if someone is manifestly undecisive or wavering in determining what his call is, it shows unquestionably that he isn't anointed. Here, there aren't grey positions, it's either black or white.
     
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    It Smells Weird

    Hi Utuna, my brother,
    I can understand that you sense a bit of weirdness about the site and that probably is because of the doctrines that you are use to as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Other religions might not find it so weird.

    I however did not find it weird, because I have been reading the Urantia book for over two years now.

    When I came across this site, I recognized some of the precepts of their teachings from the Urantia book and so got interested in what they wrote on their site.

    There appears to be a misunderstanding that the Urantia book was channeled through a person or persons.
    Let me clarify that it or the papers that make up the Urantia book was not channeled through any person but was directly written on paper and found at the designated place, usually in a locked safe.

    However contact initially was made and maintained over a period of time through a person while he was asleep.

    I do not know why they chose this particular subject for communication, but I think it was because he was related to a Seventh Day Adventist who also happened to be a Psychologist and so was in a good position to analyze what was going on and whether it was indeed authentic communications with extraterrestrial spirit beings. It did take him a while to accept that fact, apparently.

    As for being anointed or not anointed, I believe that certain ones are actually chosen by the Spirit (perhaps such persons as Robert) for specific tasks for whatever reason, and others simply entertain a heavenly hope.

    As for what you say that these ones just know that they are anointed, well perhaps they know because they have simply come to a realization that they are sons of God and do have a heavenly hope where others have not yet reached this goal.

    I personally have known a few of the anointed and I can tell you now that there was really nothing special about them accept that they appeared to have a deep appreciation for spiritual things and have more of an attachment to God than most Jehovah's Witnesses do. But all of us can have this closeness to God if we cultivate it and all of us can entertain a heavenly hope.
    It is just well that most of us were conditioned by the organization over a period of time into accepting that we are earthly and not destined for the heavenly places.
    But if you study belief systems of other Christian religions you will notice that many of them do not even entertain an earthly hope and there sights are set on going to heaven or the heavenly places anyway.

    I myself no-longer entertain an Earthly Hope but a heavenly one.

    However this does not mean that God does not have plans to make the earth into a paradise in the future.
    Just that now the Heavenly hope is what is held out to all Christians as the Greek scriptures do not suggest anything else, but a heavenly hope.

    There is no scripture that is attributed to either Jesus or the apostles that suggest an earthly hope. None whatsoever.

    If anyone can show me such a scripture in the Greek scriptures (New Testament) then please produce it for all of us to see.
     
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    just a little on anointed wittnesses, I knew a few, and they are very consevative people in talking about how they know that they are anointed and what if anything is their current job in jesus service.I have always been terrified of the memorial service lest I spill the wine or drop the bread and I make a real fool of myself in public.many years latter I was called to serve the elements and with great awe and fear,I did as told. That day I had an overwelming urge to eat those nasty crackerS and drink that stuff they dare call wine, when I did I found that I found that I suddenly felt as if I had been somehow forever changed into a spirit wearing a body. I somehow knew that I was supposed to do work with internet media and began to write, and I just know that I know I was supposed to take the elements,today some 22 years later I no longer quake with fear when I serve the elements but instead find it to be a great priveledge, a sacred and holy duty, I try my best to make it known that just because I work in jehovahs army that Im a servant not a special person or more rightous,I try to make it plain that those anointed so to speak are not chosen for reverance but rather because we are all to familier with our frailties as humans and know we are humans that are to be saved onley by jesus most precious,sacred blood and body. it is our job as anointed so to speak to make our fellow brothers and sisters come to the revelation that they too are anointed as kings and queens over this earth and latter? well just wait and see.. trust me on this you who are anointed stewards of the earthly reahlms are just as special to jesus as the men and women who get the really scary job of carrying the boxes of spirtual food through enemy teritory to earth so that you earthly chefs can unpack and feed people. Im in no way versed in prepareing and dispenseing spirtual food,but I am pretty good at weighing,stamping,puting a lid on the box and stacking it on a pallet. thats what I do,and I hope some can identify with my rather menial but vital part in the spirtual packinghouse...
     
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    Hi Future man, how are you brother? Where is the link, I wasn't able to tell if it's simple or not lol..These days simple is best for me I can't deal with lengthy in depth information, as my brain can't handle too much information overload.
     
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    Oh brother your still not reading that book..All we need is the Bible, if we needed more Jehovah would have told us, I say this because I care, but I told you this when you first showed me the book several years ago.
     
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    This must be the site that is associated with the old story, which is:

    The wise old hare and his son. The father was telling his son about an area over the hill, which was a dangerous area. He told his son, “Son, do not go over there! If you do, you will be infected and become stupid. The son had always obeyed his wise old father, but one day the desire got to be too enticing. He went over the hill, and sure enough, he immediately became stupid.

    That is where the old saying came from: “Hare today, Goon tomorrow.” :)
     
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    Hi All:

    I read their article "A Tale of Two Memorials" and they have no clue what the memorial is or how it should be conducted. They are just at the other extreme of the Watchtower that say only the Bride of Christ should partake at the Memorial and they say everybody should partake as they all have the heavenly hope. Both Wrong!

    Frank
     

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