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    Hi Apocalypse :)

    Utuna is right. You are free to present whatever you believe is the truth. But with mildness and self-control as the scriptures command. No one here agrees with my interpretation of who the true biblical Israelites are, but most here have been civil in their disagreement.

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    It is our faith and gathering ourselves together here that is important, and to gain spiritual encouragement from each other. None of us own scripture... :)
     
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    According to your statements, you claim “My Lord is Jesus”, and “there is far more weight for it to be “Yahweh” then to be Jehovah. Let us see your reasoning for those statements. Prove your point!

    Jesus is not the correct name for your “Lord”. If you want the correct Hebrew, it is yehowshuwa’, which is pronounced yeh-ho-shoo'-ah, meaning “Jehovah is salvation”. Or, as you would claim, “yahweh” is salvation. Or, if you want the Greek, it is not Jesus, but iesous, pronounced ee-ay-sooce'.

    The majority of biblical scholars agree to the name Jehovah as the correct representation of the Hebrew name. Strong’s definition is: Jehovah = "the existing One"
    1. the proper name of the one true God

    The first occurrence of the “name” is Genesis 2:4. “These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.” The name actually has only 4 letters. yhwh, which if pronouncing each letter is yod-hey-wey-hey, or if pronounced in Hebrew is hayah 'aher hayah, “I am who I am”, having the thought of existing.

    It’s similar to you using the Greek name “apocalypse”. It has a meaning attached. So, tell me a lie;
    It sounds to me that you are a trinitarian Baptist. True? Or, are you just blowing wind like Trump?

     
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    Well, America has now entered headlong into the post-truth era, where alternative facts have the upper hand, no matter how tenacious and sensible real proofs may be... I think that we're only seeing now the iceberg having capsized and the nonsense that was hidden in the social networks shining like broad daylight for all the world to know and have a good laugh at.

    The pest has entered all the layers of society; science, medecine, school teaching and even religion. People think that they have their say on everything, forgetting the kind of ignoramus they still are and how much it shows...

    I'm not necessarily speaking about Apocalypse here. That's a general statement.
     
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    By the way, it hasn't been announced yet in my congregation but it was in some others around here.

    There will be some changes in the new French revised version of the NWT. The 1995 version had changed many names from "Frenchified" old ones (like Sédécias for Tsidqiya, Mardochée for Mordekaï, Jéroboam for Yarobam and Mathusalem for Methoushélah) to names more in keeping with the literal pronunciation.

    Seems that they are moving backwards :

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    Hi Utuna,
    This is very interesting, especially when the WTS has the NWT in English retranslated for some words from the earlier versions I have. In some ways they are subtle, and in some ways it changes the meaning to fit a particular idea. At least these will be more like the original transcript spellings.
     

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