I try not to go in depth with every detail, for one could be writing endless run on sentences and lose the point of an entire post, so some items I assume common knowledge.

The four beasts are clear representations of earthly governments in connection with the immense image in Dan 2, as well as mentioned they clearly have their fulfillment in Rev 13 as well. Now this fourth beast contains ten horns, clearly these horns are to denote other nations within a combined conglomeration with this main beast.

Now, a small horn is seen coming in among them. What are some features of this horn we can discern from scripture? Dan 8:24 describes this entity like this; "And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power." So this government will become mighty but not by it's own power, so it will need to use another countries army, money, what have you. In the verse just before we read that this entity also understands ambiguous sayings. Basically saying that it puts itself in a place of bringing peace to the earth, peace keepers deceiving the world with it's charter while those behind the scene want for world dominance.

Now we see from Rev 17 another description of the beast in Rev 13, it describes it as it is, not how it's about to be. If you notice it describes the beast just as it is in 13 however, it says it is "about" to ascend out of the abyss and at that point it becomes the eighth king. So Rev 17 ties us back to Rev 13 and Rev 13 ties us back to the small horn from the fourth beast for that is the entity that will come against the holy people and constant feature.

So we're looking for a government that sprang from the 7th world power of Anglo-America that does not have any power of it's own. It must be an entity that boasts and talks itself up as a savior of the world and peace keeper. Since in Dan 11 we see this entity coming from the king of the North it must be an oligarchical government bent on ruling the entire world. We would most likely see elitist and those who favor one world government funding it's construction and supporting its role. A ready institution that can take over sovereignty for many nations that would collapse from any number of reasons at once.

I could go on about how the second beast of Rev 13 is the missing beast from Dan 7 that wasn't included in the first beast of Rev 13 and how it clearly plays a role in establishing this eighth king, but like I said when I started this post I didn't want to ramble on but try and hit on main points...

To be honest one can find much information from Robert King's work into the actions of the North and South throughout history, and the inevitable outcome of the UN's role as the Eighth king. I would say he might even be a better source for that specific subject, my work remains primarily in chronology (what event comes before or after another) and has been an off shoot from his...

 

Hey there...

Okay, instead of approaching this question by implanting another definition then the one you gave I think it might be better to discuss how you come about the understanding that you have.

So let's start with your idea of connecting Satan to this lion beast. At that moment one would have to ask them self why that beast and not the others. An argument could be made that the fourth fearsome beast shares many traits with Satan, or any of the other beasts for that matter. So instantly the theory must be discarded without direct connections. So what makes the lion any different then the others as it pertains to Satan? Besides the fact it's clear that these beasts correlate with the immense image in Dan 2 and represent worldly governments, then make their appearance as a whole in Rev 13. The clear thought would be what government in the chronological time discussed in Dan 7 does this beast represent, would it not?

If I'm not mistaken it would appear your trying to connect the timing of Satan's ouster in chronology as a dual prophecy. To be honest I have only ever found two places in scripture that one could extract the timing of this event and can be a very difficult moment to pin down in the time line. One being Re 12 and it in itself is a whole other subject. In fact in chronology the same event that occurs when Satan is ousted is the MOL being revealed. Satan is Removed from heaven then the MOL is revealed and then the time of the end begins... These events have not occurred yet.

To be honest Satan's ouster from heaven is irrelevant as it pertains to the timeline of the end and major events, it is not needed to determine any other event.

 

It's a bit contrived to continue interpretation of prophecy without establishing between the two having the discussion when and where the subject exists in time. Two can constantly go back and forth with ideas in prophecy but, without addressing the process and steps in which that idea comes to be you spin your wheels, and of course that starts from the very beginning.

So why do you continue to ask me questions without answering mine? The very next thing that would come to my mind is if you allow a character in Daniel to have a future fulfillment then where does it stop and why wouldn't every other character? / So what makes the lion any different then the others as it pertains to Satan? / Could not one also apply characteristics of Satan to the other beasts in Dan 7 such as the fourth beast? Why choose the lion?

I certainly can answer your question though, for it's quite simple. Let's start with a picture taken from ancient Babylon...



"He was calling out loudly, and this is what he was saying: “CHOP the tree down, and cut off its boughs. SHAKE off its foliage, and scatter its fruitage. Let the beast flee from under it, and the birds from its boughs." (Dan 4:14)

"Let its heart be changed from that of mankind, and let the heart of a beast be given to it." (Dan 4:16)

"his very hair grew long just like eagles’ [feathers]" (Dan 4:33)

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"and it had the wings of an eagle. I kept on beholding until its wings were plucked out" (Dan 7:4)

"and was made to stand up on two feet just like a man, and there was given to it the heart of a man." (Dan 7:4)

So quite simply we have a representation of Babylon and how Jehovah humbled Nebuchadnezzar and the result was a man that finally knew the most high was ruler. Lifted up from the earth from being as an animal, and given the heart of a man back after having a heart of an animal, and walk as a man and not as an animal anymore...

Scripture doesn't need us, it explains itself. This first beast in that of the lion is the head of the immense image in Dan 2 and represents Babylon.

 

Exactly the question one would ask. The reason it's written as it is, is to bring us to the fourth beast of Dan 7 and fourth kingdom of Dan 2. Once we understand that the beasts of Dan 7 are represented in Dan 2, then we can see that the fourth beast in Dan 7 is Rome, and later the 7th king in that of the clay and iron and the Anglo-American world power, bringing us to our day combined with an oligarchy rule, ten horns, and the clay in democracy, two forms of government in an unworkable union. That's how we're able to connect the prophecies in Dan 7 to the time of the end, along with the knowledge that the small horn and first beast of Rev 13 come against Gods people.

Ultimately it is the way to determine from what source that little horn comes from, and to identify who it is that will remove the constant feature in the time of the end...

 

Okay, now let's address Dan 8;

The great battle between the ram and the he-goat. What we are going to determine here is does this vision have a modern day fulfillment? Let's look;

"And he proceeded to say to me: “Understand, O son of man, that the vision is for the time of [the] end." (Dan 8:17b)

So the visions in the 8th chapter pertain to the time of the end according to verse 17. So without a doubt the vision of the ram and he-goat carry a dual prophecy in that of their original completion in that war between Medo-Persia and that of Greece however, just as the angel Gabriel tells Daniel, this vision is also meant for the "time of the end". In what way and how are we to determine how this vision gives us information of the time of the end? Let's look;

In our studies into Dan 7 we come to realize that the second chapter of Daniel and it's immense image becomes a map in understanding the beasts in chapter 7. We have a clear understanding of who the first beast in that of the lion represents, and as well that fourth beast, but how about the other two? Well Dan 8 will help us with that. Using our immense image in chapter 2 as a ruler we can determine who this ram and he-goat is representative of in the time of the end.

“The ram that you saw possessing the two horns [stands for] the kings of Me′di·a and Persia." (Dan 8:20)

"And the hairy he-goat [stands for] the king of Greece;" (Dan 8:21)

“And after you there will rise another kingdom inferior to you; and another kingdom, a third one, of copper, that will rule over the whole earth.." (Dan 2:39)

"And, see there! another beast, a second one, it being like a bear. And on one side it was raised up, and there were three ribs in its mouth between its teeth; and this is what they were saying to it, ‘Get up, eat much flesh.’" (Dan 7:5)

“After this I kept on beholding, and, see there! another [beast],one like a leopard, but it had four wings of a flying creature on its back. And the beast had four heads, and there was given to it rulership indeed." (Dan 7:6)

So there we have it, we understand that the ram represents the second beast of Dan 7 and that of the bear, and the he-goat represents the third of the leopard. Briefly what we are about to show moving on here is that in fact the 8th chapter of Daniel is describing the first world war and that of the League of Nations. Let's get right into it;

This battle is that of the age old battle between North and South. Chapter 11 of Dan is really a complete history of these battles. So let's pull from it this battle between the ram and he-goat;

“And he will arouse his power and his heart against the king of the south with a great military force; and the king of the south, for his part, will excite himself for the war with an exceedingly great and mighty military force. And he will not stand, because they will scheme out against him schemes. And the very ones eating his delicacies will bring his breakdown.“And as for his military force, it will be flooded away, and many will certainly fall down slain. “And as regards these two kings, their heart will be inclined to doing what is bad, and at one table a lie is what they will keep speaking. But nothing will succeed, because [the] end is yet for the time appointed. “And he will go back to his land with a great amount of goods, and his heart will be against the holy covenant. And he will act effectively and certainly go back to his land." (Dan 11:25-28)

Now as to these two kings identities in the time of the end;

"When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! a ram standing before the watercourse, and it had two horns. And the two horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward. I saw the ram making thrusts to the west and to the north and to the south, and no wild beasts kept standing before it, and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand. And it did according to its will, and it put on great airs." (Dan 8:3,4)

Now who in the first world war represents these two horns? None other then the German-Austria/Hungary Central Powers and that of the North. The second being taller that came after was of course Germany being just a few years younger then its partner. Now quickly on to that he-goat;

"And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a male of the goats coming from the sunset upon the surface of the whole earth, and it was not touching the earth. And as regards the he-goat, there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes." (Dan 8:5)

Here we have the Allies in that of the South, the French, Brits, Russia. That not touching the earth? No doubt the first use of airplanes in warfare!

Now, how do we know that this vision is meant to represent WWI in the common era? Well let's take a look. Seen between its eyes is a conspicuous horn, not one understanding ambiguous sayings but conspicuous. In fact we know this horn is before the small horn that comes from the fourth beast of Dan 7 for look;

"And the male of the goats, for its part, put on great airs to an extreme; but as soon as it became mighty, the great horn was broken, and there proceeded to come up conspicuously four instead of it, toward the four winds of the heavens." (Dan 8:8)

That horn was broken as soon as it became mighty and there proceeded to come up four instead of it toward the four winds! Remember Dan 7 and those four beasts from the four winds? Yep!

“I happened to be beholding in my visions during the night, and, see there! the four winds of the heavens were stirring up the vast sea. And four huge beasts were coming up out of the sea, each one being different from the others." (Dan 7:2)

So we are made to understand that the 7th chapter of Dan in chronology actually comes after chapter 8! That horn that was between the eyes of the he-goat was the conglomeration of the king of the south in the Allie powers that defeat the ram in that of the Central Powers. But once that occurs the horn is broken and the four beasts come from the four winds in Daniel 7, it is not till then that a small horn is seen coming from one of those four. Look here;

"And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one, and it kept getting very much greater toward the south and toward the sunrising and toward the Decoration." (Dan 8:9)

"I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one," (Dan 7:8)

These two horns are of course the same entity because we know both are said coming against gods people and removing the constant feature.

So according to scripture who can we determine is to be represented by the bear and leopard of Dan 7? The allies being that of the leopard and it's four heads and wings and the Axis being that of the bear coming into WWII. Those three ribs in the mouth of the bear? They are the king of the North and those three Axis members of Germany/Italy/Japan. Those are the very three horns that fall before the small horn that comes up from the fourth beast. Those three horns originally being part of that conspicuous horn in Chapter 8, or first king!

Babylon and the lion? Oh, Babylon The Great is most definitely alive today...