Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by jehovahisgod, Oct 13, 2013.
Very good sorry you got it right on the button!
And now some exciting news! It seems nobody has really paid attention to this but it's becoming widespread now the name of God which has been rendered yhwh or the tetragramaton. Has long been thought to been missing the vowels! Well they were not really missing! It's now discovered that in over 1000 different places previously thought to be yhwh that the consonants are written on one line and the vowels are on another mid line. Yehovah is the direct English translation! Yehowah was also found and some of the older manuscripts.
It seems our name Jehovah isn't far from the truth after all. Here is a picture showing how they miss read the text it's been underlined for you. I don't know what they thought those marks were before. I do know that it was January when they made the connection. That whenever the tetragramaton appears those funny little marks appear at the bottom. They've been identified as the vowels.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing, JIG.
Yes I find it quite interesting that those marks have been there all along. And that these people that have translated over the years couldn't figure out that those little marks were actually referring to such and such vowels goes between these consanents. It's going to be even more interesting now to see how the world react now that they know God's name is Jehovah or something really close to it. will they stop with the nonsense that the word Jehovah is just a made-up word? Or will they repent and many more people start to use the name.
Very interesting JIS, because Jesus even referred to these marks being important. “Truly I say to you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, in no way shall one iota or one tittle pass away from the law until all comes to pass.” ( Mt 5:18 LITV )
“But it is easier for the heaven and the earth to pass away than one tittle of the law to fail.” (Lu 16:17 LITV )
What is even more interesting is the fact that Matthew uses the actual Greek term, iota, which the KJV uses as “jot”. The term “tittle” in Greek, is keraia (ker-ah'-yah) meaning: "used by grammarians of the accents and diacritical points. Jesus used it of the little lines or projections, by which the Hebrew letters in other respects similar differ from one another; the meaning is, “not even the minutest part of the law shall perish”. The word iota, which is originally from Hebrew and pronounced as ee-o’-tah. English pronounce it as eye-oh-tah.
If these tiny accent marks are missing, it completely changes the meaning of the words. In Hebrew, the ’ is the smallest of them. It also could be what happened to Peter, after the arrest of Jesus. “And after a little, coming near, those standing by said to Peter, Truly you also are of them, for even your speech makes you known.” ( Mt 26:73 LITV )
“. . . and after a little, those standing by again said to Peter, Truly you are from them, for you are both a Galilean and your speech agrees.” ( Mark 14:70 LITV )
In other words, his accent and pronouncement of words gave him away as a Galilean.
Thanks for this...
Exodus chapter 6
 Then the LORD said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a strong hand shall he drive them out of his land.
 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:
 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers.
 And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered my covenant.
 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:
 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians.
 And I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; and I will give it you for an heritage: I am the LORD.
 And Moses spake so unto the children of Israel: but they hearkened not unto Moses for anguish of spirit, and for cruel bondage.
 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
 Go in, speak unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, that he let the children of Israel go out of his land.
 And Moses spake before the LORD, saying, Behold, the children of Israel have not hearkened unto me; how then shall Pharaoh hear me, who am of uncircumcised lips?
 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, and gave them a charge unto the children of Israel, and unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, to bring the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt.
 These be the heads of their fathers' houses: The sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel; Hanoch, and Pallu, Hezron, and Carmi: these be the families of Reuben.
 And the sons of Simeon; Jemuel, and Jamin, and Ohad, and Jachin, and Zohar, and Shaul the son of a Canaanitish woman: these are the families of Simeon.
 And these are the names of the sons of Levi according to their generations; Gershon, and Kohath, and Merari: and the years of the life of Levi were an hundred thirty and seven years.
 The sons of Gershon; Libni, and Shimi, according to their families.
 And the sons of Kohath; Amram, and Izhar, and Hebron, and Uzziel: and the years of the life of Kohath were an hundred thirty and three years.
 And the sons of Merari; Mahali and Mushi: these are the families of Levi according to their generations.
 And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of the life of Amram were an hundred and thirty and seven years.
 And the sons of Izhar; Korah, and Nepheg, and Zichri.
 And the sons of Uzziel; Mishael, and Elzaphan, and Zithri.
 And Aaron took him Elisheba, daughter of Amminadab, sister of Naashon, to wife; and she bare him Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.
 And the sons of Korah; Assir, and Elkanah, and Abiasaph: these are the families of the Korhites.
 And Eleazar Aaron's son took him one of the daughters of Putiel to wife; and she bare him Phinehas: these are the heads of the fathers of the Levites according to their families.
 These are that Aaron and Moses, to whom the LORD said, Bring out the children of Israel from the land of Egypt according to their armies.
 These are they which spake to Pharaoh king of Egypt, to bring out the children of Israel from Egypt: these are that Moses and Aaron.
 And it came to pass on the day when the LORD spake unto Moses in the land of Egypt,
 That the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, I am the LORD: speak thou unto Pharaoh king of Egypt all that I say unto thee.
 And Moses said before the LORD, Behold, I am of uncircumcised lips, and how shall Pharaoh hearken unto me?
And the question for Exodus 6.
God told Moses his name! And he said Abraham never knew my name!
What is the name that God gave to Moses
Let one of the little guys answer this or the little ladies! If there are any of them out there looking or listening.
OK jehovahisgod. I can consider myself as “little guy”, as I’m only 3 feet tall. Ha, ha, ha. Wellllll, that’s not true, I’m 5’-8”, I used to be a bit taller, but age has taken a few inches off. But, .... Maybe I can give a clue. Go to “Apologetics - Defending our Faith” and look around. I think it’s “LORD”, right? That’s because lord, and Lord, are way different than LORD.
Or, maybe it’s “I AM”, rather than “i am”. Awww, you know “I am” just kidding.
And you are to say to them tell them that my name is yehowah! That is my name to time indefinite even to forever
Exodus chapter 7
1] And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
 Thou shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of Israel out of his land.
 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.
 But Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you, that I may lay my hand upon Egypt, and bring forth mine armies, and my people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments.
 And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD, when I stretch forth mine hand upon Egypt, and bring out the children of Israel from among them.
 And Moses and Aaron did as the LORD commanded them, so did they.
 And Moses was fourscore years old, and Aaron fourscore and three years old, when they spake unto Pharaoh.
 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
 When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Shew a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a serpent.
 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
 And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.
 And the LORD said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go.
 Get thee unto Pharaoh in the morning; lo, he goeth out unto the water; and thou shalt stand by the river's brink against he come; and the rod which was turned to a serpent shalt thou take in thine hand.
 And thou shalt say unto him, The LORD God of the Hebrews hath sent me unto thee, saying, Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness: and, behold, hitherto thou wouldest not hear.
 Thus saith the LORD, In this thou shalt know that I am the LORD: behold, I will smite with the rod that is in mine hand upon the waters which are in the river, and they shall be turned to blood.
 And the fish that is in the river shall die, and the river shall stink; and the Egyptians shall lothe to drink of the water of the river.
 And the LORD spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and stretch out thine hand upon the waters of Egypt, upon their streams, upon their rivers, and upon their ponds, and upon all their pools of water, that they may become blood; and that there may be blood throughout all the land of Egypt, both in vessels of wood, and in vessels of stone.
 And Moses and Aaron did so, as the LORD commanded; and he lifted up the rod, and smote the waters that were in the river, in the sight of Pharaoh, and in the sight of his servants; and all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood.
 And the fish that was in the river died; and the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt.
 And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the LORD had said.
 And Pharaoh turned and went into his house, neither did he set his heart to this also.
 And all the Egyptians digged round about the river for water to drink; for they could not drink of the water of the river.
 And seven days were fulfilled, after that the LORD had smitten the river.
And the question for Exodus chapter 7 why did Jehovah send all those plagues upon Egypt what was the point in all this? And the b question what did plague due to pollute the bread? What creature got into everything?
The plagues were a blow to all of Egypt’s so-called gods. The creature that got into everything, including the bread, was what we could call lice, or gnats eggs. It is where the saying “nitpicker” comes from. The “nits=eggs”, about a millimeter in size, attach to the hair follicle; the lower part of the hair shaft that supplies the growing part of the hair at the skin. The Hebrew word is ken (kane), from the root word kanan which actually means root of a tree, in the sense of fastening.
The term nitpicker implies to a person who will choose the smallest and mediocre reasons for some occurrence. As an example, one so-called scholar said that Moses was “not taken out of water”, as the scripture states. ( Ex 2:10 ) The so-called scholar states: Moses was taken out of the arc/chest/box in which the sister placed him. That’s a true case of nitpicking.
Very good! The lice were every place and so were the frogs. Wow what a nasty combination.
Moving on to Exodus chapter 8.
 And the LORD spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.
 And if thou refuse to let them go, behold, I will smite all thy borders with frogs:
 And the river shall bring forth frogs abundantly, which shall go up and come into thine house, and into thy bedchamber, and upon thy bed, and into the house of thy servants, and upon thy people, and into thine ovens, and into thy kneadingtroughs:
 And the frogs shall come up both on thee, and upon thy people, and upon all thy servants.
 And the LORD spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch forth thine hand with thy rod over the streams, over the rivers, and over the ponds, and cause frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt.
 And Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt; and the frogs came up, and covered the land of Egypt.
 And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt.
 Then Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron, and said, Intreat the LORD, that he may take away the frogs from me, and from my people; and I will let the people go, that they may do sacrifice unto the LORD.
 And Moses said unto Pharaoh, Glory over me: when shall I intreat for thee, and for thy servants, and for thy people, to destroy the frogs from thee and thy houses, that they may remain in the river only?
 And he said, To morrow. And he said, Be it according to thy word: that thou mayest know that there is none like unto the LORD our God.
 And the frogs shall depart from thee, and from thy houses, and from thy servants, and from thy people; they shall remain in the river only.
 And Moses and Aaron went out from Pharaoh: and Moses cried unto the LORD because of the frogs which he had brought against Pharaoh.
 And the LORD did according to the word of Moses; and the frogs died out of the houses, out of the villages, and out of the fields.
 And they gathered them together upon heaps: and the land stank.
 But when Pharaoh saw that there was respite, he hardened his heart, and hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.
 And the LORD said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the land, that it may become lice throughout all the land of Egypt.
 And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt.
 And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not: so there were lice upon man, and upon beast.
Question for Exodus chapter 8. You would think by now that Pharaoh would be getting tired of all these plagues. So did pharaoh repent?
Your last post got me to thinking about “hardening the heart”.
“And Jehovah said unto Moses, When thou goest back into Egypt, see that thou do before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in thy hand: but I will harden his heart and he will not let the people go.” ( Ex 4:21 ).
What does this term actually mean? Here is one scholar’s view.
“The big thing in this verse is the simple declaration on the part of God that, “I will harden his heart.” We may be sure that God still hardens the hearts of willful and impenitent sinners. The phenomenon mentioned here is repeatedly referred to in the Bible, and has already happened on three different occasions to the entire race of Adam. In understanding the status of mankind at the present time with reference to his relation to God, hardly anything could be more important than a proper understanding of what is meant by hardening.”
In the case of Pharaoh. This may be viewed as a pilot case, showing exactly the manner of its occurrence. “Ten times it is stated of Pharaoh, in a great variety of forms of expression that he hardened his own heart.” “The hardening of Pharaoh’s heart was due to his own obstinancy in refusing to yield to the warnings he received ... The Easterner means the same thing when he says that God hardened his heart.” Nevertheless, there is more involved here than some other way of describing it.” `He will not’ leads inevitably to `he cannot.’” Stubborn and willful sin inevitably leads to God’s judgmental action against the sinner, not upon some distant day of judgment, but in the sinner’s lifetime. “God hardens his heart.” Such sinners are penalized. “Their senseless hearts are darkened” (Romans 1:21). “God gives them up!” (Romans 1:24, 26, 28). This is called judicial hardening. (We have often addressed this problem in our series. See my commentary on Romans at (Rom. 1:28, 32; 11:7). Coffman Commentaries on the Old and New Testament
“And Pharaoh said, Who is Jehovah that I should listen to His voice to send away Israel? I do not know Jehovah, and I also will not send Israel away.” ( Ex 5:2 LITV )
“. . .But they became vain in their reasonings, and their undiscerning heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became foolish and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into a likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.” (Rom 1:21b-23 LITV )
thank you I couldn't even have begin to have said it better!
Exodus chapter 9
 Then the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh, and tell him, Thus saith the LORD God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me.
 For if thou refuse to let them go, and wilt hold them still,
 Behold, the hand of the LORD is upon thy cattle which is in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the oxen, and upon the sheep: there shall be a very grievous murrain.
 And the LORD shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt: and there shall nothing die of all that is the children's of Israel.
 And the LORD appointed a set time, saying, To morrow the LORD shall do this thing in the land.
 And the LORD did that thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt died: but of the cattle of the children of Israel died not one.
 And Pharaoh sent, and, behold, there was not one of the cattle of the Israelites dead. And the heart of Pharaoh was hardened, and he did not let the people go.
 And the LORD said unto Moses and unto Aaron, Take to you handfuls of ashes of the furnace, and let Moses sprinkle it toward the heaven in the sight of Pharaoh.
 And it shall become small dust in all the land of Egypt, and shall be a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast, throughout all the land of Egypt.
 And they took ashes of the furnace, and stood before Pharaoh; and Moses sprinkled it up toward heaven; and it became a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast.
 And the magicians could not stand before Moses because of the boils; for the boil was upon the magicians, and upon all the Egyptians.
 And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.
 And the LORD said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me.
 For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth.
 For now I will stretch out my hand, that I may smite thee and thy people with pestilence; and thou shalt be cut off from the earth.
 And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.
 As yet exaltest thou thyself against my people, that thou wilt not let them go?
 Behold, to morrow about this time I will cause it to rain a very grievous hail, such as hath not been in Egypt since the foundation thereof even until now.
 Send therefore now, and gather thy cattle, and all that thou hast in the field; for upon every man and beast which shall be found in the field, and shall not be brought home, the hail shall come down upon them, and they shall die.
 He that feared the word of the LORD among the servants of Pharaoh made his servants and his cattle flee into the houses:
 And he that regarded not the word of the LORD left his servants and his cattle in the field.
 And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch forth thine hand toward heaven, that there may be hail in all the land of Egypt, upon man, and upon beast, and upon every herb of the field, throughout the land of Egypt.
 And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt.
 So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.
 And the hail smote throughout all the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast; and the hail smote every herb of the field, and brake every tree of the field.
 Only in the land of Goshen, where the children of Israel were, was there no hail.
 And Pharaoh sent, and called for Moses and Aaron, and said unto them, I have sinned this time: the LORD is righteous, and I and my people are wicked.
 Intreat the LORD (for it is enough) that there be no more mighty thunderings and hail; and I will let you go, and ye shall stay no longer.
 And Moses said unto him, As soon as I am gone out of the city, I will spread abroad my hands unto the LORD; and the thunder shall cease, neither shall there be any more hail; that thou mayest know how that the earth is the LORD's.
 But as for thee and thy servants, I know that ye will not yet fear the LORD God.
 And the flax and the barley was smitten: for the barley was in the ear, and the flax was bolled.
 But the wheat and the rie were not smitten: for they were not grown up.
 And Moses went out of the city from Pharaoh, and spread abroad his hands unto the LORD: and the thunders and hail ceased, and the rain was not poured upon the earth.
 And when Pharaoh saw that the rain and the hail and the thunders were ceased, he sinned yet more, and hardened his heart, he and his servants.
 And the heart of Pharaoh was hardened, neither would he let the children of Israel go; as the LORD had spoken by Moses.
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