"Bunker" Videos

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    I haven't been to the Regional Convention/District Convention, but they are not that far away.

    I've watched the "bunker" videos on the internet. (Initially, I wondered if I was watching a parody.) It seems that the "bunker" videos are a series of videos depicting a group of brothers/sisters who are hiding in the basement of a home during the great tribulation.

    The brothers/sisters relate how they overcame obstacles to their faith in the past, and they encourage each other. The final video shows a SWAT team of police officers entering the room as the brothers/sisters stand as a group, to face the police authorities. (The police have been "looking for the Witnesses.")

    The next video shows the same group of brothers/sisters eating together in the New System.

    Some questions come to my mind:

    Why has the Governing Body made these videos at this time?

    If the Governing Body were really concerned about the survival of the brothers/sisters, why don't they encourage them to start stocking up food items and then "flee to the mountains?"

    (Here in Australia, it has already been said at the last zone meeting, that the "great tribulation" has already begun. In my opinion, that is nonsense, the Australian Bethel may be having a "great tribulation" of its own since it is not co-operating with the Australian Royal Commission into Child Abuse. But I do not think that the world is experiencing THE great tribulation, at this time.)

    Why encourage the brothers/sisters to wait around for the police to arrive?

    Are the police authorities rounding up the Witnesses because they are looking for brothers who are paedophiles or who concealed paedophiles and did not report these to the authorities?

    In psychological terms, are the Governing Body "projecting" what they envision will happen to them in the future? Do they think that they will be hiding out in a bunker?

    Just throwing some thoughts around in my mind.
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    Frank Conger

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    Hi Wallflower:

    Who knows what the mindset of the Watchtower is? They have been wondering in a wilderness since they gave up on chronology in 1975, thinking that it was just too hard to figure out. Besides, everyone was calling them names like "false prophet" and such and it was just too much to bare. As far as fleeing to the mountains, for the Christians in the first Century that was a literal command. When they saw the Roman armies encircling Jerusalem they were to flee to the literal mountains, out of harms way in the ensuing battle for Jerusalem and surrounding area.

    Today it is different. God's people are dispersed throughout the earth. People with faith are both inside and outside the Watchtower. The problem is there is NO "literal" mountain that they can all flee to, and there is no one with the authority to tell them where to flee to. That will all change soon. The wilderness penalty on both the Watchtower first new covenant Saint reserves is up on Ab 2 of this year. The same is true on the heavenly part of the first new covenant Saints. They too are in the midst of a wilderness period (not penalty) and can't come out and show themselves until their brothers in the Watchtower are out of their wilderness penalty. Again, we think that happens on Ab 2 of this year (that would be July 9,10 Gregorian)(there is an overlap because Jewish calendar days start at sunset and run into the next Gregorian day and finish at sunset the next sunset).

    Once that wilderness penalty & period is finalized the heavenly part of the first new covenant Saints will show themselves to the wicked ones in the Watchtower and their brothers who are a part of the Bride of Christ and will show them the way out of the Watchtower and into the Zoar Congregation. Zoar was where Lot fled to when he left Sodom. The Watchtower in it's present conditon is Sodom in a symbolic way and Lot (the first new covenant Saints in the Watchtower) must flee there for his very life. That is the mountain that Jesus will direct his brothers to. There is a judgement on God's people for their sin and the very judgement of all mankind will start with the Watchtower, for they were a true Church not so long ago. They are also symbolically Nineveh. Jonah is the first new covenant Saints (in this symbolism) that will proclaim destruction on the Watchtower in 40 days from their proclamation. The 120,000 mighty men in Ninevah are second new covenant Saints trapped in the Watchtower. Some of them know of the second new covenant, but the Watchtower as a whole has not revealed this truth to the rank and file Witnesses. Like the disciple in Jesus account who "buried" his talent of silver in the ground for fear of losing it, the Watchtower has buried this understanding and knowledge from the brothers, not showing them the beauty of God's gift to this presence of people of faith.

    God asked Joʹnah: “Is it right for you to be so angry over the bottle-gourd plant?” [The bottle gourd plant is the Laodician Congregation that has grown up inside the Watchtower, and Jonah portrays the Laodician Messenger from Revelation, who we are not sure who he is]+ At that he said: “I have a right to be angry, so angry that I want to die.” 10 But Jehovah said: “You felt sorry for the bottle-gourd plant [Laodicia] , which you did not work for, nor did you make it grow; it grew in one night and perished in one night.[ It was a very short lived congregation] 11 Should I not also feel sorry for Ninʹe·veh the great city [The Watchtower],+ in which there are more than 120,000 men who do not even know right from wrong,* [ it actually says in scripture that they do not even know their right hand from their left, which is pointing out that they don't know if they are first new covenant Saints who are on God's right hand (with Jesus as his Bride) or second new covenant Saints who are on his left, who are part of the Kingdom that will rule on Earth] as well as their many animals [persons of faith inside the Watchtower who are not at present 'born again"] ?”+ Jonah 4: 9b-11

    Then Lot said to them: “Not there, please, Jehovah! 19 Please, now, your servant has found favor in your eyes and you are showing great kindness* to me by preserving me* alive,+ but I am not able to flee to the mountainous region because I am afraid that disaster may overtake me and I will die.+ 20 Please, now, this town is nearby and I can flee there; it is only a small place. May I, please, escape there? It is only a small place. Then I will survive.”* 21 So he said to him: “Very well, I will also show you consideration+ by not overthrowing the town you speak of.+ 22 Hurry! Escape there, because I cannot do anything until you arrive there!”+ That is why he named the town Zoʹar.*+ Genesis 19: 18b-22

    Jehovah will refrain from destroying this system until everyone is in Zoar, which is symbolic for the Congregation of Philadelphia, which will be protected from both the destruction of this system of things and from the "hour of test" of the Great Tribulation as promised in Revelation to the Angel or Messenger of Philadelphia. Zoar is right now just a very small place. There are only a few faithful members thus far. The flood to Zoar though will start very soon. Keep your spiritual ears open my Sister, Jesus (through his Bride) is about to let out the call.

    “To the angel of the congregation in Philadelphia write: These are the things he says who is holy,+ who is true,+ who has the key of David,+[Jesus] who opens so that no one will shut and shuts so that no one opens: 8 ‘I know your deeds—look! I have set before you an opened door,+ which no one can shut. And I know that you have a little power, and you kept my word and did not prove false to my name. 9 Look! I will make those from the synagogue of Satan [the Watchtower at this point as they have allowed the throne of Satan into the Temple of God through their involvement with the U.N.] who say they are Jews ["born again first new covenant Saints] yet are not,+ but are lying—look! I will make them come and bow* before your feet and make them know that I have loved you [the Messenger of Philadelphia]. 10 Because you kept the word about my endurance,*+ I will also keep you from the hour of test, [you and the Philadelphia Congregation, "Zoar"]+ which is to come upon the entire inhabited earth, to put to the test those dwelling on the earth. 11 I am coming quickly.+ Keep holding fast to what you have, so that no one may take your crown. Revelation 3

    “To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa [in the Watchtower] + write: These are the things that the Amen+ says, the faithful and true+ witness,+ the beginning of the creation by God:+ 15 ‘I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or else hot. 16 So because you are lukewarm and neither hot+ nor cold,+ I am going to vomit you out of my mouth. 17 Because you say, “I am rich+ and have acquired riches and do not need anything at all,” [this is the exact attitude of those taking the lead in the Laodicea within the Watchtower] but you do not know that you are miserable and pitiful and poor and blind and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may become dressed [right now they are not dressed in an accepted baptism since they lost theirs] and that the shame of your nakedness [lack of baptism] may not be exposed,+ and eyesalve to rub in your eyes+ so that you may see. [right now they are blind] + Revelation 3

    When Jesus said to flee to the mountains (plural), he again was literal for the first Century Christians and symbolic for the future Christians that would live during the time of the end. For us his words are symbolic but their are still two mountains to run or flee to at the appropriate time. Mountains represent "administrations" in the Bible when used symbolically. One mountain that Christians are told to flee to is the Mountain of the first new covenant Saints who are in a marriage covenant with Jesus (you only run here if you are a first new covenant Saint with Jesus as his wife, you should know who you are). The second symbolic mountain is the administration of the Kingdom on Earth which will be administered to by "born again" Christians who are not a part of Jesus marriage covenant but are non-the-less a part of the administration that will rule the Kingdom of God on earth as a part of the second new covenant, the covenant of Keturah, Abraham's wife that he married after Sarah died. She was formerly his concubine, but later his wife. Again, the Watchtower is aware of this covenant but they "buried" under a ton of bureaucracy.

    Each "presence" of the Christ had a special covenant from God. In the first Century was the first new covenant and in our time is the second new covenant. http://www.truebiblecode.com/understanding11.html .

    Don't worry, Lot will flee to Zoar, Jonah will get the 120,000 mighty men out of the Watchtower. The remnant of the first new covenant Saints will answer the call to flee from the Watchtower and the rest of the second new covenant Saints and people of true faith will flee this system of things and enter into the "ark of God" to await and watch the destruction of the unfaithful and wicked who will be cast into Gehenna ("the other death") till they show genuine repentance and can be released into God's Love and Mercy.


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