Hello everyone. As a result of some discussions I've had with some atheists, I'm publishing a long article on my website titled "Can Genesis Be Reconciled With Science? - An Hypothesis". So far, the following are published: Introduction Part 1 - The Current State of Affairs Between Creation and Evolution Part 2 - The Challenges to Genesis and the Creationist Beliefs Part 3 - Apatheism, or The Indifference Towards God There will be more published, as I develop the hypothesis suggested by the title. I hope you enjoy the reading. In the meantime, if you have any comments, I'd be interested to hear them. Eden
will read it , I love your work and the spiral galaxy ... I love astronomy Picture of the Day which today has Herschel's Andromeda http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Hi Eden: This is an awesome topic. One that Bible Students and Scientists who believe in God have struggled with for eons. I have only ever found one satisfying answer to this question and it can be read here... http://www.truebiblecode.com/understanding1.html frank
Part 4 published Hello everyone. Just published on my website the fourth part of my article Can Genesis Be Reconciled With Science? - An Hypothesis. IV - Genesis 1:1 and Science Hope you enjoy and find some food for thought. Eden
did you know that the comon mineral granite is very good evidence of creation? just you try to make granite by melting rock such as volcanic activity. you just dont get granite... mineralogists are still trying to deal with this rather recent finding with some kind of natural explaination.. it seems that granite is an artificial mineral that was manufactored from the inside out!.If I can find the links Again I will post them
Hi JehovahisGod, If we use as an example of how a computer functions we will see that while we are using it, there is a whole lot of multitasking operations been performed without our realizing it. The point? Well this is a simple programming that is desiged to be performed while we are using various other programs to perform the tasks that we want to accomplish. I see creation as no different in that in the spirit domain, as a very advanced automation programming can be put into place to achieve creation, with a little bit of tweaking of this spirit program every now and then. Both Creationists and evolutionists are constantly at logger heads over how our universe came to be, yet they will not even consider their own creations (such as a computer or an automated robot) as a classic example of how it can be done. Atheistic evolutionists say that creation was done over a long period of time, but do not attribute any intelligence behind the design of it. On the other-hand Creationists do not consider any evidence already on hand or even deny it in support of there absolute creation doctrine, that is that God directly created everything as if by hand and over a short period of time at that, perhaps 6 by 24 hour days or as the organization believes a few thousand years each creative day.
yes futureman but what bugs me to death is how people on earth can not find any real life anywere but here on earth,if evolution was possible than by now somebody should have found some random lifesighns with all that expensive eqiptment. and what else bugs me? why would jehovah make a bunch of lifeless planets? have you ever thought that perhaps all the worlds and planets that apear lifeless to us are actully teaming with life but on a diminsion that we cant detect? and we on earth apear to them as a little kid in his playpen?
Funny that you say that, but even though scientist have not found other material intelligent life out there in space they have discovered microbes contained within meteorites that suggests that there is at least low level life out there from other planets. And consider this that there are possibly over 100 billion planets in our own galaxy alone, as estimated by astronomers. According to a source i have read, most if any habitable planets would be more towards the center of our galaxy as that is evidentially more denser there with star systems. But your suggestion also holds water, because scientists theorize by mathematics that there are up to 11 dimensions of space and so it certainly is possible for planets to be entirely in another density or existence. One source I have read from, called the "law of one" suggests at least 9 densities of existence that they are aware of. Now this source is from channeling, and I suggest that some of what they say could be true, even if they do have a twisted agenda. I do not know. I remember a statement from brother Russell once where he apparently made the suggestion that you can even learn knowledge from the Devil, all but twisted to his advantage. The Urantia book also suggest different states of existence apart from our own 3d existence in this plane. Jesus did state once that in his Father's house (domain) there were many dwelling places (places of habitat) The apostle Paul even indicated that he knew of a certain person that actually went to 3rd heaven, but he was not sure whether this was in a form of a vision or maybe outer body experience, or he was actually there for a short period of time.
Im a beleiver in that same idea, evan the mormons have the idea that everyone will have their own planet to develop, and Bad bad me! I have read the book of cain,adam enoch,nostrodamas, and quite a few more,and it just makes me beleive that jehovah is the ultimate scientist,and inventor,that the genisis is mans way of puting into words the far far advanced science that jehovah used in the makeing of the worlds,did he do it in onley 7 litteral days? yes and no and I shall explain that. jehovah took his work that took millions of our years and brought it down to our physical leval over the course of 7 literal days, something like the theory of relativity, takeing things from the spirit world which is beyond lights speed. he slowed down their diminsional frequency , and to the explaination of man, it took 7 litteral days, its my theory that there could be litteraly hundreds if not thousands of worlds that are full of life but on a diminsion that our instruments just cant see. for all we know we could be siting in our liveing room with a host of other beings who share the same space but a differant frequency? yup its quite a thought
Yes an interesting comment that you have made there considering the material that I have read from other sources, such as the "Law of One" who claim to be a social collective type entity, beings of light (sounds familiar?) apparently in a physical sense, and they discuss about the various densities that are purportedly suppose to exist, according to them. Whether they are who they say they are is another matter however, but some of the information that they present could actually have some truth in it.
So now you start quoting sources from channeling,which is spiritism ? What is wrong with you ? Dont you realise the danger you are in ? You trust sources from the demons,but question weather the greek scriptures are true in regards to what Jesus REALLY DID say ?? You trust the demons more than the Son of God.
What statement is that and in the form of an attack on my faith as well? Did I quote from this source? I did not specifically quote anything particular did I? Perhaps you should attack everyone that quotes from a variety of worldly sources, yes attack them all and be done with. I was only commenting on what they said and I did not say that they were on Michael's side. Yes these ones could actually be of demonic origin that is true, though I can not be certain of this as there could be other beings out there that we do not know about, that the Bible does not speak of. The Bible seems to be only concerned with God's angels, and Lucifer and Satan's angels when it comes to other beings apart from us humans here on earth. Just like you I am very suspicious of these entities, but I would not be so adamant as you that they are actually of demonic origin, as I simply do not know. But it seems you know, because you know everything is that it? John 14 1 ¶ Do not let your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father's house are many dwelling places. But if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going to prepare a place for you! 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you to Myself, that where I am you may be also.
Out of body experience? 2 Corinthians 12 2 I know a man in Christ fourteen years before--whether in the body, I do not know, or out of the body, I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third Heaven. 3 And I know such a man--whether in the body or out of the body, I do not know; God knows-- 4 that he was caught up into Paradise and heard unspeakable words which a man is not permitted to speak. [LITV]
dear sir, I trust gods word and I have no doubts its true..what we are talking of is posible science involved in creation. not explaining away gods word with natural means,, many other sources of mens writeing speaks of creation, that dosent mean I or anyone here hold those beleifs equal to the word of god. I have read many books and some of the writers were more into superstition than bible truth. I will always hold the bible as gods word but Its interesting to speculate on the science fiction and play how did he do that..just a tiny example is sodom and gomorahs destruction..sometime ago I wrote a thread called the day it rained sodium on sodom..I suggested that due to the overwhealming amount of heavy salts in the dead sea that it was quite scientific to say that the fire and salt from hevan was brought about by god createing a fall of sodium metal from the hevans.very, very likely when you have the chemical residue of sodium metal in great amounts in the dead sea..a rain of sodium would have become whitehot fire,sulfer,and salt, and exploded like fire bombs everywere.. now The bible says god sent fire from heaven.. but I say that the fire was burning sodium metal and the physical remains pretty much proves it...I dont think my explaination detracts from gods word or in anyway supports the devil.. it simply shows that jehovah has power far beyond what is natural science because their is no natural explaination of how sodium rained from heaven.it had to have been instantly created by god, as the element sodium is not found in nature.thats about all Ive got but yes I think jehovah uses science far beyond my mortal knowledge to do what he does...
Here is an interesting article that appeared in the news today. It's from the Associated Press, written by Frank Jordans - Berlin. Head line - DNA study shows Europeans share common ancestors who lived 1,000 years ago. http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/206485791.html?refer=y