The bible only concerns itself from father to son, and the very nature of "seed" requires father to son, women are irrelevant as to his theory that Cain's descendants survived. Besides Cain's lineage died out before the food.

 

Do you think naming a child something proves genetics?

And you are mistaken, again, the Bible only concerns itself with father to son. No matter what you say or think you will never be able to overcome that one.

 

And now your naming the color of skin, okay, after claiming he's the seed of Satan... Pheww

Now back to what you haven't answered, did Ham have the same father and mother as his brothers?

 

It doesn't matter what we think, I know that women pass on 50% of genetics, your still not getting it.

The Bible concerns itself with father to son, which number one means you will never and I mean never be able to say that a female from the line of Cain was on the ark, because those records do not exist. Period period period period.

Number two, if your saying the line could be through women then that invalidates this whole argument about Gen 3:15 in the first place. Listen............... Domenic said that the women was Eve, right????? And that "your" seed was from Satan, Right?????? Therefore you cannot have Eves descendants as part of that line, and she's a women..... She would have mothered both of them making them both her seed if it's metaphorical like your saying it would be with Hams wife!!! You can't have it mean male at Gen 3:15 and then change it down the line. You claim the line of Adam is father to mother don't you???? What if a son of Shem had a child with one of Hams descendants???

So again, even if she had Satan's child it would have been through her and would have been of her seed, which right there invalidates the whole thing because she would have been the mother of both Adams and Satan's seed. That means Gen 3:15 would be lying if it separated the two...

Stay with me now, I know you can. Genetics lose their potency over time, so there would have had to have a true blood Cain descendant all the way to Hams wife in order to make any child she mothered 50% Cains offspring.... But guess what, the Bible's discussion of Cain's line dies off hundreds of years before the flood. How much of Cain did she have? 100%, 50% because a parent wasn't of that line? 25%, 12.5%, etc etc etc etc.... And as time goes on and 4000 years pass, what about the .000000000000000000000001% genetic connection to a theoretic female from the line of Cain that you can't prove anyway????? Do you see how simple minded this is to continue?

This whole notion is so ridiculous and so hypocritical I don't even know why I continue the subject. It's all in hopes that in some way we can understand that this is why the Third Reich killed millions...

 

Look, I'm going to put this subject in its place. Let's look at Gen 3:15, one more time.

Gen 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.â€￾

Who is bruised in the heel? The women's seed, right? Is that every single person born of her line? (Which would include anyone coming out of her womb!) No, it refers to Jesus........ So who is the women's seed in that scripture??? Jesus... Period.

Now is this women Eve???? No, no she's not, because look;

Gen 12:1,2 "Then a great sign was seen in heaven: A woman was arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of 12 stars, and she was pregnant. And she was crying out in her pains and in her agony to give birth."

There we go, the women is pregnant with her seed, and guess who she gives birth to;

Rev 12:5,6 "And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was snatched away to God and to his throne."

So therefore the seed of the women is a single male child! Slum dunk!

And who is that seed of the women? Jesus who shepherds with an iron rod and goes to Gods throne after his death.

Therefore......... The women is metaphoric in Gen 3:15 because it clearly leads you to Rev 12 and the birth of Christ which means the women is the organizational arrangement from God.

So if the seed of the women is Christ, and the women is Gods organizational arrangement, and Satan is the one spoken to, then who is Satan's seed???????

Metaphoric, all those who oppose Christ Jesus!

 

I have to give it you, nice try...

But just a little short...

Now, obviously Jesus had to come from heaven and couldn't come out of Joseph, so only a women was able to have Jesus. It just so happens Mary's lineage was known, but that fact alone would have invalidated his right to the line of kingship because from whom were the Jews looking for the Christ??? From father to son from David...

Now the final nail is the fact that Joseph adopted Jesus giving him all the birth rights of Josephs lineage, and that alone is what gave Jesus his right to the lineage of David, the throne...

Regardless, the women in Gen 3:15 is the same as Rev 12, I posted that fact in #30.

 

Reply to #29 and #30 please. I already addressed this in those posts.

 

Please respond to post #30, the women in Gen 3:15 is clearly the same women in Rev 12.

 

The women would have been the mother of both offspring. If you are saying the line came through women to the ark, and you are saying Satan fathered children through her, the women's offspring would have been both sides. That would make the statement, "And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring." invalid, because both sides would have been her offspring. That is so simple why are you overlooking it???

Number two, you have no records of any of Cains offspring, male of female surviving the flood, therefore the whole idea must be scraped. Simply put you have no record of it, that makes it a personal interpretation. Period...

The seed in Gen 3:15 is the "he", Jesus. The scripture clearly says that the seed is the "he" that is bruised in the heel, not a line of individuals. HER SEED=HE=JESUS

For theoretical sake, had Hams wife been 100% genetically from Cain, her child would have only been 50%, where as Shem's children would have been 100% on down the line genetic children of Adam, and as time went on the Cain line would have continued to have been polluted.

Three, the women in Gen 3 is the same women as Rev 12. The "he" is the same child that is born in Rev 12, Jesus in both verses. Satan in Rev 12 is the same Satan as spoken to in Gen 3.... It is the same women, it is the same Jesus, it is the same Satan, no if and's or buts about it unless you want impose your own understanding.

The prophecy of Gen 3 is not racist, the entire Bible holds the fact that we must choose to follow Christ, without any concern for our Genes after Cornelius was baptized, and in many individual cases prior. Peter saw a sheet coming down with unclean animals, and Jehovah told him to stop calling unclean what he said is clean, which meant all of mankind, you should reread that incident. (Acts 10)

 

Do you know what a paradox is? Your theory is so full of them, but yet you hold on to the theory.

And the simplest of them all, Eve would have been mother to both seeds, making her seed every line ever born, but yet you say Satan's sperma isn't Eves seed? She would have had the child! You say Adams seed is the women's seed, why? Because she had the child. She would have had them both!

Do you know how this makes you look among your peers, those who actually know the Bible? You put your head down and march forward while your peers look at you and wonder why you have such blinders on and blaze along in such nonsense.

You have no evidence that Cains offspring made it on the ark, yet you continue to sing that song. Gen 3 and Rev 12 are the same women, same Jesus, same Satan, yet you refuse to see fact when it's glaring in your face.

There's a scripture that reminds me of you;

2Tim 3:7 "always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth."