Hi everyone, I thought that this might be a good subject & a good opportunity to start my first thread, I look forward to your responses. I had a discussion with someone regarding the book of Daniel chapter 12 & the events/signs within pointing Christ's return. Below are the signs that were pointed out to me that I was asked to give my view & reasoning on. 1) Knowledge increased (i.e. Internet, mobile phones, computers, etc.) 2) Travel increased (automobiles, trains, plains, etc.) 3) We have been in a great time of world wide unrest & troubles (world war 1, world war 2, the cold war, other wars, terrorism, global economic trouble, etc.) 4) Israel restored as a nation 5) Book of Daniel finally understood. Regarding these signs mentioned I do believe these are definately apparent in our world I also believe the definition of them are also very much spiritual signs. Let me explain my understanding of this. I believe that Satan has created parallels with regards to these signs & others to decieve & mask what is actually happening spiritually. Increase of knowledge: The following scriptures are clear in showing that these are not physical but are indeed spiritual signs: Isaiah 11:9, "They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea", Also Isaiah 43:19 "Behold, I will do a new thing, Now it shall spring forth, Shall you not know it? I will even make a road in the wilderness And rivers in the desert". Daniel 12:4 "But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." Daniel 12:10, "Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand." Revelation 20:12. The five scriptures mentioned above make clear that the increase in knowledge is not physical (mobile phones, computers, internet etc.) but is spiritual, based upon the opening (understanding) of God's Word". Habakkuk 2:14, "For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea." Daniel 12:10 is clear in telling us that it's only the Righteous ones the will understand this, again this is backed up what Mark 4:11 tells us, "And He said to them, “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables". Also see at Luke 10:21, Luke 10:21 "In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight." Now, please understand that I am not saying that the increase in the physical ability to obtain & gain knowledge in this world has not contributed because I believe that it has with regards to sharing God's word & ministering, because of the internet we can now reach so many, it is a truly amazing thing! The tribulations we have endured in this time of the end are very prominent & it does characterize the timeline we are currently living in but again these tribulations are also happening on a spiritual level & again if we are not aware of this fact then we are in danger of being misled & falling asleep as watchmen. We need to disern ALL things that are occurring. The chosen anointed class are being attacked & some have been decieved, it really is vital that we are taking note of this fact as it is an important part of the fulfillment of prophecy. The physical tribulation in the world is a mirror image, a smoke screen so as to disguise the spiritual tribulations that are occurring. The physical Israel being restored again is a mirrored sign of what is happening with regards to the spiritual Israel. We must remember that Satan wants to mislead all of us hence the reason for physical worldly signs. The spiritual signs & the battle going on is not so obvious to most of us so that's why we need to discern what is happening with regards to the bride class of Christ. Mark 4:34 tells us, "He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything." There was a reason for this, it is only those who are earnestly seeking truth that will find the answers, God & Christ WILL reveal truth to those ones the choose to. By knowing what the signs are in a spiritual sense we can learn with regards to where prophecy is manifesting itself. For example Revelation 12:10, "Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down." This is I believe is currently already happening! This refers to the chosen anointed ones that have been oppressed or killed in a spiritual sense. Matthew 25:45, "He will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me." We need to open our eyes & see, we need to use our ears & hear, Matthew 13:13 clearly shows this, "This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand!". We must use our 'spiritual eye' because not everything that is apparent to our 'physical eye' is as it may seem. We can see that in fact Christ is referring to this at John 4:48, "Unless you and others see miracles and marvels," said Jesus, "nothing will induce you to believe." Make sure to be on the watch for if we do not know what is happening with regards to the spiritual battle & it's signs then we cannot observe where we possibly are concerning prophecy. 1 Peter 2:9, "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light". Jesus' illustration of the kingdom's arrival is compared to a woman who is giving birth. The end time signs are explained or likened to the woman's labour pains - "But all these things are only the beginning of the birth pains"- Matthew 24:8. This is the Greek meaning of "pangs" of distress. The woman that is giving birth & what her birth brings fourth (the woman meaning the covenant - Galatians 4:24 also gives some insight, here is a brief explanation behind the reason of why the scriptures refer to the covenants or the promises that God pledges are compared to women, the whole reason & purpose for these covenants is to accomplish God's will & the salvation of mankind so it is done for our benefit, this is accomplished by the bringing forth a righteous seed, so in essence the "women" are promises/covenants that God makes, I hope that this gives you some understanding with regards to the reason why these covenants pledged by our Father in Heaven are compared to women). Also as we all know an actual birth takes place after the labour occurs & certainly not before or at it's beginning. So we know now that the birth of the Kingdom obviously happens at the end of the woman's labour pangs/pains, so the end time signs or as we discern it now, the labour pangs/pains all happen before the Kingdom of God arrives, it doesn't occur after, it is just as a real birth would happen after the labour. So Satan needs to have a diversion, he has to produce these mirrored counterfeit signs so as to try & mislead Christ's brothers & sisters. God Bless!