Does Watchtower Literature Contain Subliminal Images?

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    This one is truly impreeeeesssive !

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    Really black and white ? :p

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    The spinning lady makes it look so effortless! She turns to the right for 2 spins and then turns to the left for 2 spins. (This has got my cat's attention!) :)
     
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    Regarding the first one you talk about, I see purple dots disappearing alternatively, then the empty space gets colored in green, then the purple dots disappear the ones after the others as the green dot keeps moving around until there is only one green dot turning around the small cross.

    Regarding the second one, that's not so impressive as it seems but the "trunks" look like flowing down towards the point of perspective.

    I love the way our brain and eyes work...
     
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    She turns endlessly the way you want her to turn.... In the end, you decide which side she is going to turn... I've seen that one for years on different websites and this picture is the best explanatory picture of it I found so far.

    Satan uses similar techniques on spiritual grounds so as to lure us so we put faith in worthless reasonings and beliefs.

    Well, what I just said is the real "raison d'être" of this thread...
     
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    Yes, this is the point of the thread. I have to get some "shut-eye" now - the cat and I will go to bed with "crossed eyes." :D
     
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    That is really cool Utuna!

    It's so easy to trick our minds ... both spiritually, and physically.
     
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    Photo taken from the ISS.

    The caption reads : Imagining things in cloud shapes also works from above! :)

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    it is true that what you think you see or hear can make your brain do strange things and arrive at incorrect perception of the data being sent.

    but can the wicked angels still physicaly create things. or do they just play mind trick on us to make us believe in what's not their at all?
     
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    It's a combination of light refraction and reflection 0n the object, to get either all you need is a change of two letters; ra and le. :cool:

    Refraction

    1. Physics. the change of direction of a ray of light, sound, heat, or the like, in passing obliquely from one medium into another in which its wave velocity is different.

    2. Ophthalmology.
    a. the ability of the eye to refract light that enters it so as to form an image on the retina.
    b. the determining of the refractive condition of the eye.​
    Reflection

    the act of reflecting, as in casting back a light or heat, mirroring, or giving back or showing an image; the state of being reflected in this way.
     
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    I can prove there are hidden images in the publications.

    I've never chimed in on these threads because it wasn't important at this current moment, but I can prove without a doubt there are hidden images in publications that need not be there.
     
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    I have never commented on threads like this one before, and let me follow up on my last post to explain why.

    I know how some see this subject, and please think before bombastically putting down those who believe there is a negative influence in the art department at Bethel. You may not believe hidden images were implanted in the societies publications on purpose and you may believe those who do believe that are being fooled by their own minds with face recognition our brains are designed to do such as seeing shapes in clouds.

    But let me say this, I have sat in committees, with elders saying I was possessed by demons and facing disfellowshipping over this issue simply because I noticed something and asked an elder about it. In fact it wasn't a big deal to me at first, it was the elders that made it a very big deal then, and till this day! So I hope you understand that this is a very difficult subject for some like myself, and brings up a LOT of bad memories and feelings.

    Yes I know all about the tricks of the mind, and someone like myself has studied such subjects for years. I also know artists, and their pride in abilities...

    Now with that said, nothing anyone else will be able to say will change my mind as to my belief that there is a negative influence in the art department at Bethel. So please be sensitive to others who do not share your sarcasm for seeing shapes in clouds...

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    I think the most blatant one was the claw like hand..but I cannot remember which book it was in.....revelation book I think.....Jesus had a claw instead of a hand.
    im pretty hopeless at seeing these things until it's pointed out to me.
    i have seen some. That once pointed out. I cannot believe I had missed them.
    the society hardly ever comments on these things....but yes...it has been infiltrated...
    thats what I'd do if I was a opponent of the society..it just makes sense...

    this is infiltration amazes me...sure some cheeky ..bitter ..brother....some times.....but I think something a lot more sinister is at work in most cases.
    oh well Josh you learnt the hard way........the prudent one keeps quiet for we are in evil times...can't remember where that one is from....
     
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    My experience was nearly two decades ago now. When I asked the elder about it I just thought it was nothing more then an interesting observation. I have a knack for noticing structure in chaos that is purposely hidden. I quickly found out that they didn't take my observation as lightly as I had considered the subject. They quickly escalated the issue, and it turned into accusations of possession. All the while I was saying I simply noticed an anomaly and wanted to talk to an elder about it, instead I was berated, degraded and treated like a lepore.

    This is not a subject I take so lightly any longer, hence why I've never commented on these threads, however I have faith others here can understand the sentiment in this post.
     
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    Yummy ! What a tasty bone !
     
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    If you ever change two letters, would light become music : ra and le => la and re ? :p

     
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    Fa So La Tee doe. The laser harp is very similar to, and based on the Theremin. The Theremin is one of the earliest electronic instruments, invented in 1919, and patented in 1928. It is the first musical instrument played without being touched. It is typically played by moving the hands in the electromagnetic fields surrounding two projecting antennae. Those light beams are played the same way.



    "Never answer the question that is asked of you. Answer the question that you wish had been asked of you."
    - Robert McNamara

    As I have said before, subliminal messages are all in the mind. They don't exist anywhere else. I've often wondered if, "they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.", will it be subliminal? Then there is the quote "We see incorrectly or we see only half of the story at times. Belief and seeing, they're both often wrong." - Robert McNamara
     
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    Subliminal? or flat Obvious?

    I believe the songbook picture of the man looking at the little girl with obvious lust while a p---- is being held by his hand is more than a little convincing....nothing subliminal about it.
     
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    Some of the following requires deep thinking. You may have to read it several times to get the idea of what the mind does in the process of observing and reasoning on subjects.

    “Plato made me know the true God, Jesus Christ showed me the way to him.”
    ST. AUGUSTINE​


    “Words are empty sounds without ideas, and God is a mere name if the mind has no apperception of a God.” (Christianity and Greek Philosophy or, the relation between spontaneous and reflective thought in Greece and the positive teaching of Christ and His Apostles - Benjamin Franklin Cocker, 1870.)

    One thing wrong with the quote above that says, “God is a mere name”, is that God is not a name but a title. It is no different than Lord, Governor, Judge, President, or Officer.

    “He (Johann F. Herbart) teaches that the chief object of instruction is to secure the reaction of the mind upon what is offered to sense-perception. We must understand what we see. We must explain it by what we know already. Herbart would secure the assimilation of all our new perceptions by the total amount of experience already stored in our minds.” (Herbart’s ABC of Sense Perception and Minor Pedagogical Works, 1903, Editor’s Preface.) - Johann Friedrich Herbart

    The word; apperception = 1753, from French aperception (17c.), from German Apperzeption (or Latin apperceptionem), coined by German mathematician and philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (1646-1716) as noun corresponding to French apercevoir "perceive, notice, become aware of" (11c., from Latin ad "to" (see ad-) + percipere; see perceive) on analogy of Perzeption/percevoir.
    (Online Etymology)

    noun, Psychology.
    1. conscious perception.
    2. the act or process of apperceiving = to comprehend (a new idea) by assimilation with the sum of one’s previous knowledge and experience.
    (Dictionary.com)

    Paul said, “For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. ( Rom 2:14-16 NASB )

    What Paul said is called apperception = ap = before + perception = 2. immediate or intuitive recognition or appreciation, as of moral, psychological, or aesthetic qualities; insight; intuition; discernment: (Dictionary.com)

    “What causes one man to see beauty and another to have exactness of visual perception? What is it that makes one person cling to colour while revealing to another the forms? What is it that helps one man while disturbing another, when both endeavour to reproduce a scene or a thought? Perhaps these differences may be partly explained by the accident of special interests or peculiarities of temperament, which habituate the attention in one way or another. But we do not now inquire into remote causes. The immediate cause consists, doubtless, in the difference in the perception itself. How and in what respect is it possible for vision to change while the object remains identical? The discovery of exercises for cultivating sense-perception depends on this point.” (Herbart’s ABC of Sense Perception and Minor Pedagogical Works, 1903, pp. 133-134) - Johann Friedrich Herbart, Educator

    “To despise the religions of the ancient world, to sneer at the efforts and achievements of the old philosophers, or even to cut them off in thought from all relation to the plans and movements of that Providence which has cared for, and watched over, and pitied, and guided all the nations of the earth, is to refuse to comprehend Christianity itself.” - (B. F. Cocker. Christianity and Greek Philosophy; or, the relation between spontaneous and reflective thought in Greece and the positive teaching of Christ and His Apostles, 1870, pp. 54-56).

    We do not hold that the idea of God, in its completeness, is a simple, direct, and immediate intuition of the reason alone, independent of all experience, and all knowledge of the external world. The idea of God is a complex idea, and not a simple idea. The affirmation, ‘God exists,’ is a synthetic and primitive judgment spontaneously developed in the mind, and developed, too, independent of all reflective reasoning. It is a necessary deduction from the facts of the outer world of nature and the primary intuitions of the inner world of reason--a logical deduction from the self-evident truths given in sense, consciousness, and reason. ‘We do not perceive God, but we conceive Him upon the faith of this admirable world exposed to view, and upon the other world, more admirable still, which we bear in ourselves.’” - (B. F. Cocker. Christianity and Greek Philosophy / or, the relation between spontaneous and reflective thought in Greece and the positive teaching of Christ and His Apostles, 1870, pg. 169).
     

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