End Time Chronology

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    Yes, exactly... Very astute...

    Yes, we are talking about only the Jewish calendar. The Holidays fall on only certain days that very on the Gregorian calendar. We must go by what we have and that of the day the current Hebrew holiday on the day it occurs and then we count the actual rotations of the earth and orbits of the sun...

    What we want to know is the mind of God. When considering prophecy we must always keep in mind that we only want Jehovah's understanding, never allowing our own interpretation having any play. In chronology if you make one mistake along the way, everything after that point is wrong...
     
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    Fascinating... truly.

    For the first time in awhile I feel like I'm really in the dark, lol. A good feeling actually.
     
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    Hi all,

    One thing for sure when Jesus returns and sends the angels to gather his chosen ones from the four corners of the earth we will know that the Kingdom will begin.

    Any thinking that any of us have about chronology and the figuring of the day and hour of these things will no longer be of any importance.

    Come Lord Jesus.

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    The next sequence of dates the Jewish holidays fall in line are as you see here...

    {2300 Starts} Watchtower News Reports: Sept 7th, 2021; Festival of Trumpets
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    {965 Days Pass}
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    {1260, 1290, 1335 Starts} Watchtower Goes Down: April 29th, 2024
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    {777 Days Pass}
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    {1742nd Day} Call to Rebuild Jerusalem: June 15th, 2026
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    {108 Days Pass}
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    {1850th Day} USA Collapses: Sep 26th-Oct 2nd, 2026; Feast of Tabernacles
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    {375 Days Pass}
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    {1260 Ends} Jesus Enthroned: Oct 11th 2027; Day of Atonement
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    {30 Days Pass}
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    {1290 Ends} Disgusting Thing: Nov 10th, 2027
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    {45 Days Pass}
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    {2300[SUP]th[/SUP], 1335[SUP]th [/SUP]Day} New World: Dec 25th, 2027; Hanukkah
     
  5. Hi Joshua:

    Just to be clear, are you saying that the Kingdom of God is 13-14 years away, or am I only imagining that you are saying that?

    frank
     
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    What i'm saying is, this is the next time the Jewish holidays left to be fulfilled fall in order on the very day the chronology of Daniel says they will.

    After that it would be 2037-2043...
     
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    Working tonight on the Jewish holidays (for many hours), I had made an oversight. Many online sources give you Jewish holidays and when it occurs into the decades to come, but fail to give you the the evening to evening description, and as well fail to give you accurate information for when each holiday falls in line with our Gregorian calendar. However, in my work into the future Jewish Holidays yet to be fulfilled I have discovered when the next moment they fall in line with the chronology of Daniel. Therefore, the next moment the Jewish holidays fall in line with the chronology of Daniel is sooner then I had thought. Displayed below is simply the next opportunity that the Jewish holidays yet to be fulfilled fall in line with the chronology of Daniel. May we strive for Jehovah's will and understanding, never our own.

    The next possible cycle:

    {2300 Starts} Watchtower News Reports: Sept 10th, 2018; Rosh Hashanah
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    {965 Days Pass}
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    {1260, 1290, 1335 Starts} Watchtower Goes Down:
    May 1st, 2021
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    {777 Days Pass}
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    {1742nd Day} Call to Rebuild Jerusalem:
    June 17th, 2023
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    {108 Days Pass}
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    {1850th Day} Western Society Collapse:
    Sept 29th-6th, 2023; Sukkot
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    {375 Days Pass}
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    {1260 Ends} Jesus Enthroned:
    Oct 12th, 2024; Yom Kippur
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    {30 Days Pass}
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    {1290 Ends} Disgusting Thing Placed:
    Nov 11th, 2024
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    {45 Days Pass}
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    {2300th, 1335th Day} New World:
    Dec 26th, 2024; Hanukkah
     
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    Well, only four more years to go before the next possible cycle... ;)
     
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    Three years now until the next possible cycle... :)
     
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    I had been struggling over an understanding in scripture these last few days. Today I prayed for wisdom in order to do his work, in order his will be done as it pertained to his word in this matter, and he answered my prayer. All things we do should be in honor to him, nothing matters in this world, only the next. Whether we are with, or without, all things are by his will, if we dedicate our lives to him.

    Col 3:23,24 "Whatever you are doing, work at it whole-souled as for Jehovah, and not for men, for you know that it is from Jehovah you will receive the inheritance as a reward. Slave for the Master, Christ."

    Evenings and mornings...

    Dan 8:14 "Until 2,300 evenings and mornings; and the holy place will certainly be restored to its right condition.”

    I have presented on this thread the chronology in the time of the end, and yet Jehovah continues to teach us, he continues to teach me and to uncover his truth all the more so as the day draws near.

    If you read back in this thread you will notice I have laid out only a few times in the decades to come that the Jewish holidays yet to be fulfilled line up with the chronology of Daniel, and those started 2018, 2021, 2037, and as well I have also recognized recently that the next proceeding time periods would would start in 2029, 2032 and 2056.

    Now there are two differences between these dates presented. One is that four of those time periods allow for the major events within to land on a Sabbath (more on that later). The other is the day counts vary by one day (depending on the exact start date).

    So let me start from the beginning. We count days between dates starting with the day after the first day. So let's say I wanted to know what day of the week it will be three days from now, I would count tomorrow as one, the next as two and so on, I do not count the current day we are in.

    Now, 2021 and 2036 work exactly like this. There are 2300 days between the transgression causing desolation and the holy place being restored if one does not count the first day.

    However, starting 2018, 2029, 2032 and 2056 there are 2299 days between these two events as counted as we do explained above. I had originally thought that if the transgression was seen the evening before (since the Jewish day starts the evening before) and the 2300 days ended at the end of the last day one could count the extra day, but what I was unwittingly doing is following a scriptural precedence.

    You see, what Jehovah has come to help me understand today is the reason why he used the words "evenings and mornings" in describing those 2300 days, and that takes us back to the creation days. Yes we've all noticed the connection between those two locations in scripture, but what is fascinating is the creation days tell us exactly how to count the days in between the 2300.

    You include the first day!

    Gen 1:5 "And there was evening and there was morning, a first day."

    So in other words, we are to count the first and the last days within those 2300 evening and mornings! That's why Dan 8:14 says "Until 2,300 evenings and mornings" because it includes the first.

    What this means is, I must concede that in fact there are only a few times within the next fifty years that the end can begin, and those start 2018, 2029, 2032 and 2056.

    It just so happens that these are also the only time periods that the major events to occur in the time of the end fall on a Sabbath.

    See here;

    {2300 Starts} Watchtower News Reports: Sept 10th, 2018; Rosh Hashanah (Monday)
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    {965 Days Pass}
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    {1260, 1290, 1335 Starts} Watchtower Goes Down:
    May 1st, 2021 (Saturday)
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    {777 Days Pass}
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    {1742nd Day} Call to Rebuild Jerusalem:
    June 17th, 2023 (Saturday)
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    {108 Days Pass}
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    {1850th Day} Western Society Collapse: Sept 29th-6th, 2023; Sukkot (Friday-Friday)
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    {375 Days Pass}
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    {1260 Ends} Jesus Enthroned:
    Oct 12th, 2024; Yom Kippur (Saturday)
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    {30 Days Pass}
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    {1290 Ends} Disgusting Thing Placed:
    Nov 11th, 2024 (Monday)
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    {45 Days Pass}
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    {2300th, 1335th Day} New World:
    Dec 26th, 2024; Hanukkah (Thursday)

    In closing, there are now only two more years to the next cycle and possible start to the time of the end.

    Just as I opened this post, I would like to close with it. Everything here, all this work in scripture, all this work on our forum, in our lives, all these years, are all to Jehovah. We must strive in this time that we have left to work as to his will and not our own, for nothing in this world matters, only that to come. Let us take this time to train our minds in order to follow his will and his direction for what is to come!

    Jehovah may your kingdom come! (Mth 6:10)
     
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    Okay, I just need to refine the chronology a little bit. After further study I have discovered (as mentioned above) that certain time periods in Daniel are counted starting with the first days event, while another may not.

    So with that said, the 2300 day prophecy of Dan 8 includes the first and last days. This is why the prophecy is worded as it is with "How long will the vision" and "Until 2300" and "evenings and mornings." (taking us back to the creative days) The question was about the whole vision from the first day till the last, and this tells us the first day is included.

    Now this also applies to the 1260 days because we know that's how long the two witnesses preach, and as well how long the courtyard is trampled, so you include their first and last day as well

    As well with the 1290 days you count the first and last as well because it says "from the time the constant feature is removed, and there has been", so you include the day the constant feature is removed.

    The 1335th days is just the extension of both previous.

    With this clearer picture of Jehovah's time tables, and with a better understanding of why these prophecies are worded the way they are, I would like to update the end time chronology.

    Here are the next three time periods into the future the chronology of Daniel aligns with the Jewish holidays yet to be fulfilled.

    2018
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    2029
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    2032
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    {2300 Days} Watchtower News Reports: Rosh Hashanah
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    {1260, 1290, 1335 Days} Watchtower Goes Down:
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    {777th Day of Captivity} Call to rebuild Jerusalem:
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    {8th King} Fall of Economic System: Sukkot
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    {1260th Day} Christ Jesus Enthroned: Yom Kippur
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    {1290th Day} Disgusting Thing Placed:
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    {1335th Day} New World: Hanukkah
     
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    I'm adjusting one detail on the end chronology map. Instead of "Christ Jesus Enthroned", I'm replacing it with "Christ Jesus Crowned". It's just a slight difference, but from our latest discussions on when Christ Jesus set on his Fathers throne, this explanation fits better...

    {2300 Days} Watchtower News Reports: Rosh Hashanah
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    {1260, 1290, 1335 Days} Watchtower Goes Down:
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    {777th Day of Captivity} Call to rebuild Jerusalem:
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    {8th King} Fall of Economic System: Sukkot
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    {1260th Day} Christ Jesus Crowned: Yom Kippur
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    {1290th Day} Disgusting Thing Placed:
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    {1335th Day} New World: Hanukkah

     
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    I realized this should have been posted here instead of under MOL.
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    Recently in another thread by Londoner it has been discussed whether only sons of Israel would fall under the new covenant or not. I feel there is a pretty strong consensus that Jews AND people of all nations are included in the covenant. In essence the Israelite way of life was done away with regarding worship to Jehovah. Any Jewish faith of today is purely manmade, and has nothing to do with true worship to Jehovah.

    With this in mind, in the chronology of events, why would Jehovah continue to use the same days that were special to the Israelites when he abolished the nation and their way of worship?

    If the 12 tribes of Israel spoken of in Revelation cannot be strictly Israel, which as was mentioned most feel it is not, then why would we expect events to happen on certain days, as outlined in your chronology, based on Jewish holidays?
     
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    The temple sanctuary and the organization process Jehovah set up in Israel was prophetic of the heavenly organization and process he was to use in the time of the end.

    Heb 8:5 "These men are offering sacred service in a typical representation and a shadow of the heavenly things;"

    As well the holidays Jehovah set up to be fulfilled as prophecy. The holidays Christ Jesus fulfilled were Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost.

    There are also three more that have as of yet to be fulfilled, and those will be when Christ Jesus returns, and those are Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles.

    It wasn't till after I finished the chronology of Daniel did I notice the Holidays left to be fulfilled line up with the end time chronology in certain points in history. You will notice from the work I presented there are only a few more times this century that occurs.

    We understand that, and everyone else here, but Londoner has his own ideas... ;)
     
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    One more year till the next time the days between the Jewish holidays yet to be fulfilled line up with the chronology of Daniel.

    In a single moment six thousand years ago our Father set out plans to rid this world of sin, at the very moment sin entered into it.

    Gen 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.”

    It was in that moment that all prophecy, along with all of Christs brothers were foreseen in order to once again bring about fulfillment of his original purpose for all creation.

    All the pain, all the sorrow, and all suffering of this world are destined to end, and it's only a matter of time.

    I often despair at the fact there is little solidarity in understanding of our Lords Word. He deserves his Word to be studied and read as it was truly written. I long for the day that I walk down the streets of the New World listening to the sounds of his Word being taught among all mankind in truth, and in oneness. I don't know if I'm jealous over the Word, or if it's simply my love of the Word, but I despair at all the divisions even among our own associates.

    Understanding of prophecy isn't necessary for survival, but it is important to end time fulfillment. It is not everyone's gift, for we all have our own, but I wish some understood that this is some of ours. In the end our Father will have his prophets, and they will have their responsibilities before him, responsibilities that will require great sacrifice, and selflessness.

    I wish more believers knew and understood what is contained within this thread. It has greatly assisted in my faith over the years, for it is one of the most important discoveries in prophecy, and probably ever, outside our Lords first coming. The fact that the holidays line up with the chronology of Daniel tells us that the odds this information is in error is 0%. The fingerprint of God is seen in the complex inner workings of this chronology.

    The fact that over thousands of years a calendar was set up, and hidden within the pages of the Bible, in itself shows you a single mind, but then when you recognize holidays were set up after major events that coincide with the exact day a similar event would occur thousands of years later, there is no other possibility other then divine inspiration.

    Then you consider the fact that the Jewish year is based on the lunar cycle which stretches over time, while showing us this chronology only lines up at certain times in each century, you start to see a pattern.

    Then one thinks of the odds. It is my contention that the odds of the information presented not being from our Father is the same as filling the state of Texas with silver dollars two feet deep. Then drop one marked dollar within, blind fold someone, send them in, and the odds that they choose the correct dollar on their first try is the odds that this information is not fact. So hence the great faith that arises from the study of this information. There is literally no possibility that we don't know how the end will begin, and how it will progress within that time, and by extension, end...

    Will it take this event to bring us together, under one prophetic understanding? I can hope...

    Will this upcoming cycle on Sept 10th 2018 begin the start of the end? I don't know, that's the day "no one knows the day or hour," that new moon of Rosh Hashanah, but what I do know is this, this is how the end will begin. Could it be argued that now is the time, because this is understood? There are also other times in this century, 2029, 2032 for example, ultimately our Father has put that time in his control.

    Dan 12:10 "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand."

    So dear friends, may we continue to serve Gods kingdom, now into forever. Whether the end begins soon, later, or even after our lifetimes, may we continue to serve our Lord for the simple fact that he deserves our devotion...

    With all love...

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    I agree. We are not serving for a date. Thank you for your encouragements. But I think that every one of us would like to be still alive when the end arrives to see the fulfillment of the prophecies, and understand where we where right, and where we were wrong. For my part, I want to see who the two witnesses actually are.
     
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    Joshua You sound a little like the "Church of God" groups they say that God's Holy days, his annual Sabbaths days starting with, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles, Last Great Day(The Eight Day) are God's Plan of salvation for man. They also think that the final end time frame will start most likely on the start of the Feast of Trumpets. Your Bible research are a little in the same direction I think and I agree with you. May Christ bless you with his Love and knowledge of his Word. Agape Love to you and all the family. Regent
     
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    It is now six months till the next time period the Jewish holidays yet to be fulfilled line up with the chronology of scripture. To mark this moment I've added a simplified image of end time chronology above.​

    Those who are familiar with my work wont need an explanation, but I will add a little detail as to why what we see above is an accurate representation of chronology in the time of the end. For more detailed information please follow the link here, "The Joshua Stone"

    The Jewish holidays were set up by God as seasonal festivals in their times. (Lev 23;4) Just as our Lord had fulfilled the spring holidays, he will also fulfill the fall feasts at his returning.

    The day counts we find in Daniel coincide with these holidays yet to be fulfilled, and represent the days in between them. Due to the the lunar calendars expansion and contraction, there are only a handful of times in each century this occurs. The next this Sept 10th, 2018. After this will be 2029, 2032 then 2056.

    The first holiday to be fulfilled is Rosh Hashanah, that "day and hour" no one knew, the holiday it took two witnesses to spot the new moon, in order to begin the Jewish new year. This holiday was over a two day span, for they did not quite know which day the new moon would fall on. So we look forward to the fulfillment of this first day in the time of the end, whether that be soon, or some years to come.

    We do not serve God for a date, we serve him because he deserves our devotion. That question in the Garden of Eden of who had the right to rule was settled long ago, our Father has the right to direct his creations steps.

    Our Father so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, so that all that believe in him may have everlasting life, and we should appreciate this love they have shown us, by our love for them! (Jhn 3:16)

    May we keep awake and watch for our Lord, so that when he knocks we may open to him, and he take the evening meal with us!
     
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    Greetings...

    We now come to two months before the next moment in history the holidays yet to be fulfilled line up with the chronology of Daniel. No matter what occurs on Sept 10th 2018, this is a special time, and a day I will spend in respect of our Lord. Jehovah set these events in motion over many centuries, and events covering millennia, in order to fulfill his will. We see this in the fulfillment by our Lord in the first century in that of the spring festivals.

    We don't know the day or hour which is a term for the holiday Rosh Hashanah, yet we do now know this is the very next holiday yet to be fulfilled.

    We also do not serve Gods kingdom for a date, but we must be prepared to serve as he intends us to. So we endeavor to remain on the watch for when our Lord knocks, so that he will find us taking care of the sheep at the proper time.

    With that said, we pray Jehovah's kingdom come...
     

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