Friday, August 26 We are members belonging to one another.—Eph. 4:25. Jehovah is helping us “to serve him shoulder to shoulder.” (Zeph. 3:8, 9) He is training us to fit into his eternal purpose. What does that include? He purposes “to gather all things together in the Christ.” (Eph. 1:9, 10) Yes, he wants to unify all willing creatures throughout the universe, and he will succeed in doing this. Does that help you to see the need to work unitedly with Jehovah’s organization? Jehovah is teaching us to attain unity now, with the objective of having unity forever. Again and again, the Scriptures tell us to “have mutual concern for one another,” to “have tender affection for one another,” to “keep comforting one another,” and to be “building one another up.” (1 Cor. 12:25;Rom. 12:10;1 Thess. 4:18;5:11) Jehovah knows that Christians are imperfect, and this may make it challenging to be united, so we need to work at “freely forgiving one another.”—Eph. 4:32 .w1412/15 3:14, 15
The scripture does not say that Jesus will gather together all "willing creatures". That is a statement made to justify a personal theology that is not actually supported by scripture. It actually says "to gather together all things in the Christ". Not just all willing things. Yes at some point in time everyone will be willing participants in salvation, but some will just take a longer time to show their willingness to join themselves to the Christ, but someday "all things will be gathered together in the Christ".
I disagree with you once again Frank. Clearly Jesus will gather only the willing, and not all things as you say. One must take all scripture into account to understand what is meant by all things, It will be only those who worship in truth. Mth 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
Yes, Joshua many will not have faith in Jesus nor love their neighbor as or more than themselves at the end of this system and will die for that lack of faith and/or love. But Jehovah and Jesus do not give up on them. They are diciplined in Gehenna until they understand why doing things Jehovah's way and having faith in Jesus sacrifice is the only way that mankind can prosper. Jehovah is "Salvation" just as he "is" LOVE. Just as love never fails, neither does salvation. Many people have grown up under the most deplorable conditions in this awful system of things. Jehovah is not going to judge people's eternal salvation based solely on their experience in this dreadful world. Do you really think that? No, he will discipline them and teach them until they come to the realization that they were wrong during their first try here on earth and when they show the proper repentance, by Jehovah's standards they will be released from the second death (the "other" death, not forever destruction--that is another among many teachings that the Watchtower has botched completely) and given the opportunity to show their love and appreciation for Jehovah by doing things his way. They will still make many mistakes along the way but with repentance they will again be forgiven until they too reach the perfection that Jesus reached without having to die. The Watchtower and you too Joshua sell Jehovah's love and mercy and justice way too short. This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God,+4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 1 Timothy 2:3,4 The word sorts was thrown in there by the NWT to justify their unscriptural belief and theology. They have slanted the scriptures toward their way of thinking. I like the NWT, but like all the others, they too show their bias in their translatiing. Jehovah* is not slow concerning his promise,+ as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. 2 Pet 3:9 They apparently haven't gotten around to distorting this scripture yet, so it's very clear that Jehovah wants. So my word that goes out of my mouth will be.*+It will not return to me without results,+But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight,*+And it will have sure success in what I send it to do.Isaiah 55:11 So, if Jehovah's word does not return to him without the results that he desires, then all men will attain to repentence, for that is the desire of Jehovah God. Yes, again it will take many people a long time to repent, but according to the scriptures and not me or my personal opinion, all men will eventually show a repentant heart because God is Love and Salvation and since "love never fails, neither does salvation". That is who our Heavenly Father is and Jesus acts just like him and we should too.
What???? Are you promoting hell fire, life after death? Just like the flood brother, or Sodom and Gomorrah, if they die at Armageddon they are not coming back, at that point the books are opened and their fate is sealed. It's in the chronology. What are you doing??? If they are killed at Armageddon by Jehovah's angels they are not coming back... Are you series to think otherwhise? This is a waist of my time. And you sell Jehovah's judgements way to short.
I would rather sell his judgements short than his love, mercy, wisdom and power. I am not selling hellfire Joshua and you know it and therefore you are slandering me and my position. But you are correct about one thing and that is that this is a waste of time as you and many of the rest of the JW's that exist in a kind of Watchtower "limbo" are still imprisoned in their silly ideas about God and the Bible. I admit that the Watchtower did get many things correct, but they got just as many or more incorrect. I am hopeful that soon the wall of the Watchtower will indeed crumble to the ground and that you and all the rest who remain imprisoned in her thinking will be released and able to think without the cloud of Watchtower theology. Please remove me as a member. I will read comments from here from time to time but I will no longer waste my time trying to teach some sense into you while you are locked in the Watchtower mind prison. Adios Amigos- I love you all!
You're the only one constantly broaching the subject of the WT, bla bla bla. You talk more about the WT in one day than we do in weeks. We're not interested in you teaching us, so many people having wanted to do the same and regarding you, so many years with us and still not catching it on... We don't want you as our Teacher... but as a contributor to our db... why not ? Adios señor catedrático en teología !