Busy Body "Evil Doing" Bethel and 1 Peter 4:17 Since the ARC I went to checking that 1 Peter 4:17 guarantee the judgment starts with the house of God, that is actual anointed Christians in places only God sees, but that have in some number, been associated with the IBSA to Jehovah's Witnesses ministries, as claimant anointed Christians. But the 1900s were a long time ago, so anointed Christian judgment context of Christendom's corporate apostasy exposure, as not in any real "holy covenant", is now well past. And related to this, exposed lawlessness at Bethel RIGHT NOW, seems to make another "house judgment" cycle necessary, another delay in which "ten virgins" have again "nodded off". == In so doing I went to read 1 Peter 4:17 again. Then I noticed the interesting warning Peter gives just prior to 1 Peter 4:17, about NOT being found suffering for actual "evil doing" AS WELL as NOT being found a "busy body": (1 Peter 4:15-17) However, let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a busybody in other people’s matters. 16 But if [he suffers] as a Christian, let him not feel shame, but let him keep on glorifying God in this name. 17 For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Is it not interesting this is the very thing shameful Bethel is now embroiled within? Being found aids to child rape. And that the Governing Body is a "busy body" to the Nth degree in the affairs of Jehovah's witnesses? And that that warning just so happens to lead to the statement of "for it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God", as if [be warned] BECAUSE "it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God"; this is very interesting given the Bethel "house of God" situation. Like, warning, when the judgment comes, do not be found lawless and busy-bodies, as is now the case at Busy Body Bethel itself. But now Jehovah's witnesses are caught in a sort of duplicitous pickle. 1. IF it is a judgment for lawlessness, God permits it and requires it (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14), it would be the end of the Bethel apostasy starting, in effect. 2. IF it is an attack on a holy ministry, it is "the end" supposedly, that Bethel delusional and premature "attack of a coalition of nations; e.g. Gog", as if it is the "end of the world" that JWs can perceive this as, in time. But this is NOT the end of the world, except for Bethel's lawless world, and that well before world government and the full Gog global "congregation of nations". (Rather than Daniel 11:41 coming up, Bethel sells JWs the over-advanced "expect Daniel 11:44 next brothers!". What lawless Bethel is doing, is attempting to sell the (yet to come) severe "7th King" "King South" downfall and the global crisis it will ignite, as if "the end", when in prophecy the 8th King King North seizes control of the nations (Dan11:42-43), and rises WITH that 7th King required fall, yet to come. And THAT is a very handy smokescreen to crash Bethel under, and distract JWs with that premature end delusion as per 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2. == Thus can we expect Bethel to be all of a sudden honest at this juncture, in spite of the mass lawlessness in their UN NGO bowels now being autopsied for public awareness globally in regard to child abuse aiding Bethel "private laws"? No, we cannot. What we can expect is the end of Bethel apostasy, to be sold to JWs as "the end of the world", when in fact plainly stated in all these events matching Peter's prophecy from God, it is just the BEGINNING of the final global cycle (Dan11:42-43; Rev8-11; Rev16), that but STARTS upon the "house of God", as although of anointed Christians, Bethel provides a handy globally visible epicenter to actually "see" this judgment erupt upon. And that for suffering for real evil doing. All coincidence?
Hi 4winds, There comes a time and it seems like it is here when the warning of Micah applies: Micah 2: . 10 Get up and go, because this is not a resting-place. Because of the fact that she has become unclean, there is a wrecking; and [the] wrecking work is painful. Bethel has become unclean because their ways of dealing with the world and the members of all of the congregations. The light of understanding from God's living words of truth makes this clear as you have shown. That this can happen in our time is indicated at: 2 Corinthians 6: 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I shall reside among them and walk among [them], and I shall be their God, and they will be my people.†17 “‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’â€; “‘and I will take YOU in.’†18 “‘And I shall be a father to YOU, and YOU will be sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah the Almighty.†It is not about anyone being better than anyone else because we are all equally sinners and in need of Jesus and Jehovah's forgiveness. It is about recognizing the light of understanding coming from the living words of truth. Most of us here on this forum have loved ones still in the organization and we try to help them see these important truth's and the need to separate ourselves from the organization or be caught in the obvious repurcussions of the judgement that is coming. Jehovah and Jesus take no delight in the coming wrathful judgements - but they are necessary and the judgements will come and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth because of it. Terrible times are here and more to come - so let us all go to Jehovah and Jesus and listen to their living words of truth. Have a blessed day. Joe
I am disfellowshipped but I still think my family benefits from meetings they go to. At this very moment they are at the meeting and I use to say them: try to learn all they teach. That is what I did and could finally see through it. But when the disgusting thing will be placed on the holy place, the places that are dedicated to Jehovah, in other word the Kingdom halls, then it is time to flee. But where? I think the woman that flees in Revelation 12 for 3,5 years is the congregation of the "great crowd" that leaves the kingdom halls and goes to the "desert" to be fed for 3,5 years.
Infact it is true that we can not clearly understand prophecies before their fulfillment. But we should all the time study the prophecies so that we are familiar with them and when specific prophecies start to fulfill we can recognize the fulfillment. There are a lot of prophecies that seem to get soon their fulfillment. 1. Death stroke to one of the seven heads of the beast. This could well be the much expected neverseen economic collaps of the USA. 2. That it heals quite fast and every one admires that. Revelation 13. This ties well in with all the solutions Donald Trump has for healing the American economy. 3. I fierce-looking king takes the power. Daniel 8:23-25 I see that how it looks now, Donald Trump would be the perfect man to fulfill that prophecy. 4. The woman in the sky Revelation 12, this seems to me gets it's fulfilment on 23 september 2017 when a celestial alignment occures inconnection to the constallation Virgo, with all the detailes in place, the sun at her head, the moon at her feet, 9 stars and 3 planets that shine as stars above her head, thus making it to 12 stars. And releasing of Jupiter that has been moving back and forth for quite exactly 9 months in virgo's womb. That would be the day when Satan is thrown down here. And the begining of 3,5 years mentioned in the Bible will all that is connected to this period. There is so much interesting to be looking for now. Also the other prophecies not mentioned here.
Although the DT will get clearer when Daniel 11:41 and Luke 21:20 erupt on Bethel (Dan8:13 "trampling" for UN NGO "transgression causing desolation"), the UN NGO is reason enough to get out early (when one "sees" it and "discerns" it; But it's going to get worse soon, thus more "visible"). (Matt24:15). This is because in the WT programmed "interval" (WT 7/15/15) in that first anti-JW-org salvo, things are going to get very confusing for JWs, not knowing what to do, and that is when they plan to apply this...: WT quote (WT 11/15/2013, pg. 20, par. 17, #3): “â€Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:… [And sandwiched into the admonishment:] (3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. ...To attempt to capture as many JWs as they can. The enemy is already IN the house. (Dan11:32a) I would not wait until the very day Bethel hits the fan, to try to extricate, when JWs will be in a total mental tidal wave of climax "the end" delusion, turning into the global JW hoax, it is designed to be used for, to herd as many JWs as they can, to global internment. The sooner you get out your family out, the better. Or at least the sooner you start explaining the UN DT to them, now, the better. Imagine trying to explain that to a JW, when hell is coming down on Bethel? They will be very strongly under the influence of the Pied Piper GB, so best to start to get them used to the idea NOW, imo. Now if you are not in the US, I assume you may have more time. The US will be the major JW trap of all time, so if you are there, be very careful, they will spring this fast, and that "interval" will come: ""8 What happens after the initial part of the great tribulation has passed? Jesus’ words indicate that there will be a period of time that will last until the start of Armageddon. What events will occur during that interval? The answer is recorded at Ezekiel 38:14-16 and Matthew 24:29-31. After that, we will witness Armageddon, the climax of the great tribulation, which parallels Jerusalem’s destruction in 70 C.E."" (Watchtower 7/15/2013 Study Edition; "Tell Us, When Will These Things Be" article; pgs. 5, par.7-8) Jehovah's Witnesses Must Sacrifice and Obey, Obey, Obey ""7-8 It will be a time to reveal what is really in our heart...mankind will seek refuge in human organizations...God’s people will flee to the refuge that Jehovah provides...the interval...was a time for action and obedience on the part of...Christians...the future interruption...will be an opportunity for...believers to prove their love for Jehovah and give their support to Christ’s brothers...it will involve some measure of sacrifice...leave behind...possessions...to remain faithful, will we be willing to experience material loss? Will we be ready to do whatever is required of us to prove our loyalty to Jehovah?"" (Watchtower 7/15/2015 Study Edition; "Your Deliverance is Gettign Near" ) In post first assault, "that interval" to follow the first blast on the JW org coming, DO NOT obey the JW org and GB. It is a trap, hence Matthew 24:15 applicable now by the UN NGO, for those who by discernment NOW "catching sight of the disgusting thing". They want JWs to hang out as long as possible, to be told where to "flee" to: the FEMA system, (as far as the US, but this will turn into a global anti-JW operation, hence Hosea 1:4-7).
yes, it will be a signal time ON "BETHEL" (1Pet4:17), first, not Christendom, so that "others can understand" it is not yet "the end": (Isaiah 28:18-19) And your covenant with Death will certainly be dissolved, and that vision of yours with Sheol will not stand. The overflowing flash flood, when it passes through—you must also become for it a trampling place. 19 As often as it passes through, it will take you men away, because morning by morning it will pass through, during the day and during the night; and it must become nothing but a reason for quaking TO MAKE OTHERS UNDERSTAND what has been heard.†(Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14) I know many JWs still in the trap org. So I empathize with you, but some have immediate fleshly family in there too, so it is going to truly be a testing period. But in time Christ comes to the temple, again, to do the final cleansing before final warning. (Zech3:4-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5; Dan8:13-14) It will be Daniel 11:41. But they will tell JWs, it is Daniel 11:44, over advanced toooo deep into Daniel 11, because they want to smokescreen it to JWs as "the end" (hence "Daniel 11:44 next brothers!". But that is, as per 2Thess2:1-2, the premature end delusion for such purposes. Have a blessed decade.
4winds & Jan... Let me share something with you that you may not have thought of yet. The time frame in Daniel 12:11 is actually the time in between the two events in that of the constant feature being removed and the disgusting thing being placed. Dan 12:11 “And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days." The constant feature is removed, and then 1290 days later the disgusting thing is placed. We see this in the first century when Rome circled the city in 66CE. Just as Rev 11:1 tells us that both the first century fulfillment and the time of the end will be the same. The disgusting thing isn't placed in the temple at the beginning of the 1290 days, it's the courtyard that is circled; Rev 11:1 "And a reed like a rod was given to me as he said: “Get up and measure the temple sanctuary of God and the altar and those worshipping in it. But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple sanctuary, leave it out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for 42 months." In the first century the sacrifices that Gods people should have been looking for that were ceased occurred by the hands of the temple priest Eleazar Ben Hanania. He ceased the sacrifices to the Roman emperor and people and was the main event to start the Jewish revolt. Then 1290 days later Rome entered the temple and destroyed it. The first fulfillment of this event was actually between 167 BCE and 164 BCE. This was the revolt of the Jews as recorded in the apocryphal book of Maccabees. The sacrifices at the temple were ceased and then 1290 days later Antiochus set up the disgusting thing in the temple. You see, in the future the Watchtower that is sending out the message of the kingdom of God to mankind will cease to be produced, and the WTS will become no more. This event will only be the beginning of the circling of the courtyard. It is not until 1290 days later, after Gods people will be brought back to him (Dan 9, Amos), and after Jesus is actually enthroned that the 8th king will turn against the true brothers of Christ remaining on earth to try and separate their bands from Jehovah. This is the moment Gods people are to flee, and it will be physically into the surrounding hills and mountains because this is the moment Armageddon begins. Psm 2:2-6 "The kings of the earth take their stand And high officials gather together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one. They say: “Let us tear off their shackles And throw off their ropes!†The One enthroned in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah will scoff at them. At that time he will speak to them in his anger And terrify them in his burning anger, Saying: “I myself have installed my king On Zion, my holy mountain.†Mth 24:40 "Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken along and the other abandoned."
Joshua, you wrote: This is the moment Gods people are to flee, and it will be physically into the surrounding hills and mountains because this is the moment Armageddon begins. But if we would follow the pattern of first century, then the flight should take place about 3,5 years before the final destruction, is it not? But I expect the authorities will come with a demand to put some kind of idol in the kingdom halls. And force it on. I remember that during Hitlers reign Hitler had put svastikas in churches, so that is surely a proview of what is coming.
this is from Perimenos site.....I hope some of you find it refreshing and up building Do you feel like a lost sheep? Do you feel like running away, not knowing where to? Perhaps you might want to consider it to be more advantages to remain where there are still brothers and sisters who have a zeal for God, although "not according to accurate knowledge"? (Rom. 10:2,3; 1 John 5:18-20) If you believe that your spiritual life is in danger in your congregation, keep in mind that Jehovah said that there exists another danger, that of a straying sheep becoming food for every wild beast of the field. (Ezek. 34:5) Jesus said that in the conclusion of the system of things, which is the harvest, he will "send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be." What will that mean for God's loyal sheep? Regarding any who will be left over after the cleansing, Jesus said: "At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen." (Matt. 13:39-43; Dan. 11:35; 12:3, 10) The foremost among the wicked that will be removed from God's kingdom will be the Watchtower Society with its governing body. Can you patiently endure until that time, leaning heavily on Jehovah for support? The reward of everlasting life is worth any suffering at this time.
This I just found about Hitler Germany and how churches adopted the swastika alongside with the cross. Both of course disgusting things. This article down where the picture of the church from outside comes with interesting revelations how the church idolized the Nazi regime. Yes that's what I believe will happen again after the healing of the 7 headed beast, and people will worship it as says Revelation 13. http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/christuskreuz.htm
Keep in mind Jehovah needed to prophecy two events in one. They are not both 1:1, so therefore there will be slight variances. In the first century they should have known when the city was surrounded and the sacrifices ceased they should have left, and this would have been in 66CE before Rome entered the temple in 70CE. Luk 21:20,21 “However, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Ju·de′a begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her," In the time of the end this is the moment the women flees into the wilderness for 1260 days and Jehovah's people go into captivity to the metaphorical Babylon. Rev 12:6 "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days." At the start of this time period we will hear allegations of wrong doing by the WTS, and then a few years later the WTS will be shut down. The two events of the constant feature being removed and the disgusting thing placed are not the same event and are separated by 1290 days. In the time of the end Jehovah's people will have no choice but to go into exile once the Kingdom Halls are closed, but the prophecy is for the days just before Armageddon when the 8th king turns to physically kill Christs brothers remaining on earth.
Hi again Joshua, Interesting that Daniel wrote about the placing of the disgusting thing and the removal of the constant feature in a couple of chapters. If we look at Daniel 11 we find some interesting forknowledge about what will happen after the constant feature is removed and the disgusting thing is placed. It says that those who act wickedly against the covenant, that they will be lead into apostasy by the king. In the same time "among the people" the faithful and discreet slaves, will impart knowledge to many. And they will be persecuted in the same time. Is not this what Daniel 11: 31-33 tells? Daniel 11:31-33 and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress (Watchtower organization?) and remove the constant feature. “And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation. 32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively. 33 And those having insight among the people will impart understanding to the many. And they will be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for some days. So I expect that a part of Jehovah's witnesses will be lead into apostasy, the final 3,5 years will not only be a time of persecution, but also temptation. The king will with smoth words pesuade Jehovah's witnesses, including the leadership to apostatise. Surely he will misuse the God's commandment to be obedient to the superior authorities.
Hi Jan, Question? Is not the actions of the governing body toward their fellow anointed brothers and apostacy from truth? Is not the ngo affair a act of apostacy? Is not the current examination of the watchtower organization's policies on child abuse by the austrailian government and example of an apostacy? Just some thoughts to ponder - it seems to me the apostacy has been going on a while. Have a blessed day. Joe
Joe, I know the question wasn't addressed to me dear friend, but something came to mind. You may know, if you've read my site The End Is Here!, and specifically the Revelation Chronology tab that I believe the trumpets and bowls are the same event, which means that the first four trumpets and bowls are against Gods people starting their captivity into Babylon. Therefore the third bowl applies to the Governing Body; Rev 16:4-7 "The third one poured out his bowl into the rivers and the springs of water. And they became blood. I heard the angel over the waters say: “You, the One who is and who was, the loyal One, are righteous, for you have issued these judgments, because they poured out the blood of holy ones and of prophets, and you have given them blood to drink; they deserve it.†And I heard the altar say: “Yes, Jehovah God, the Almighty, true and righteous are your judgments.â€
Jan... Let me start with this, if you notice it is the arms that stand up from the king of the north that actually remove the constant feature, not the king of the north itself. As well we know it is the small horn in Dan 7 that comes against Gods people to remove the constant feature. So therefore the "hurling of denunciations" by the kotn is separate from the removal of the constant feature, and the most important point is that it is the same "arms" that will remove the constant feature and also place the disgusting thing, but these two events do not occur at the same moment, the scripture is simply telling you it is that entity (the arms) that acts in both instances, for we know from Dan 12:11 and past fulfillment's there are 1290 days between these two events. Now, after the constant feature is removed in verse 31, we see the events that will occur during the 1290 days from 31-39. Then we see starting verse 40 the final battle between north and south when the north becomes victorious and the 8th king rises. Then in verse 44 we see the reports out of the east and north. Without filling this post with a million scriptures and chronology I will give the abridged version. The "reports" are Christs brothers remaining on earth who will be transfigured like Moses at Sinai, like Christ at the transfiguration and as Stephen when the heavens were opened up, and this occurs the moment Jesus is enthroned at the end of the 1260 days and Holy Spirit is poured out on slaves and servants. Then in verse 45 we see the moment the disgusting thing is placed. So the final scripture in Ch 11 is 1290 days after verse 31, It is full circle. This is the moment that the 8th king turns against Christs remaining brothers in order to try and cut their cords from Jehovah, sparking Armageddon. Verses 31-45 are 1290 days apart...
(John 4:21-24) Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, The hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you people worship the Father. 22 you worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation originates with the Jews. 23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.†If worship were only acceptable at a "location", that location will become an idol, as God destroyed the Jerusalem temple due to profanations such as the idolatry to worship things, traditions and personalities. But Bethel is worse than that, Bethel has joined to the more recent grass roots UN "Outreach Programme" as the "United Nations OF Non Governmental Organizations", where the wild beast will in time fully broadcast all their global decrees to be supported by these "non-governmental", but yet United nations' "organizations" so that all the people can be led to the 666 by many "grass roots" channels. The UN NGO is a United Nations of Organizations. Although Bethel was "disassociated" by the UN, that is the UN HAD TO KICK THEM OUT, the red flag is the same. Had Bethel not been called on this, and KICKED OUT FIRST BY THE UN ITSELF, for "UN reproaching press", they would still be a UN "non-Kingdom" organization. (UN NGO is the "transgression causing desolation" on the JW org, soon, in Daniel 8:13) (Heed Matthew24:15) AT THAT TIME BETHEL FULLY LEFT THE "HOLY COVENANT"; (Dan11:30b), FOR THE WILDBEAST UN NGO COVENANT FOR UN PROMOTIONS AFTER THE COLD WAR RESOLVED INTO THAT 3RD FORETOLD GLOBAL UN "DISGUSTING THING" PLACEMENT. (Dan11:31b, Dan8:23) A human can worship God on all of planet Earth, not just 1 locale. 24/7/365 But it REQUIRES "spirit" AND "TRUTH", which Bethel has forsaken. And in time God will signal the temple purification (Zech3:4-5; Rev8:3-5) has but begun (1Pet4:17) on "Bethel" as the visible epicenter (but of the, not humanly visible, "anointed Christians", the real "temple"; (Zech3:2)), and will complete in time (Dan8:14, Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32). So do not miss that final witnessing (Matt25:1-13; Rev10:11) that will emerge from the Bethel global-judgment, prior to world government and thus Christ arrival AFTER they are done with their 8th King abomination, 100%. (Rev17:8-12) Bethel has to go down first, so that the final prophecy reality can come forth with no error or obstructions (Rev8-9), such as the profaned GB, which has been a profanation from day 1, for there is no GB in the Bible, plain and simple, it is an evil fiction. The GB "cell" will be tossed and exposed by God (Rev8:10-11), to start the final warning multi-year process. (Rev 8-11, Dan8:13-14 as Dan11:41)
Do not not think I do not understand what you are saying here 4 winds ...I do...BUT..........just like in the wilderness ..when moses came down of that mountain......and his people were confronted with two choices......worship the idol ( golden calf ) ...or worship the True God Jehovah.......we will be faced with that very situation as well....it will not be a confusing riddle to work out..... how it all comes about...we still need to wait and see..........and perhaps we are seeing things already developing ........but when it does happen...it will be obvious to all honest hearted ones to see the choice they need to make. jehovah is not so cruel to make that final decision so confusing and puzzling that we will be deceived... he knows his sheep..and he will look after them....I am talking about HONEST HEARTED SHEEP THAT LOVE TRUTH......I am not talking about the weeds that look like sheep...... Some of the posts here concerning this subject can be very depressing and one feels like throwing the towel in because ones write in such a way that .....the very fear of being deceived and tricked is overwhelming.....you's even scare the hell out of me sometimes!!!!... .yet then I ponder on the past experiences of how Jehovah always treated his corrupt people....those experiences are there for us to learn from..... jesus spoke in a way that honest hearted sheep understood him...perhaps not right away..but eventually if they persisted and endured with him....then all was revealed in good time... he will look after us like that again.....gradually we will see what we need to do....it will become clearer and clearer...... Dates..Times..Chronology ...types and anti types....all these are extremely important. otherwise he would not have written of such things...I admire and always read intensely what those that have these gifts write....I learn so much from them... this post is not about such things...... I hope you can understand where I am coming from.... I am writing this post to encourage ones like me.....no mathematician ....no real bible scholar.......but I do believe I have a honest heart and a love for truth .....even tho imperfect and stumble many times...........in the time of the end...he will not allow any such one to be tricked or deceived....as long as we endure.....and have faith in him... sis thinking
We may consider the possibility they have already "left the holy covenant" apostatized as UN NGO "Wild Beast Covenant" members at the 3rd UN "disgusting thing" placement after the Cold War in 1990. That would mean King North, or 8th King architects, (all kept a big secret "King North" by UN-Bethel), is inside of Bethel at this time (Dan11:32a), as earmarked by their "United Nations of Non-Kingdom Organizations" partnership. Thus the: 1. 3rd UN event cover up as prophecy; (Actually Dan11:31b, Dan8:23) 2. The UN NGO signaled apostasy (Matt24:15, actually already "standing" as spoken of by Daniel at Dan11:31b) 3. And the "trampling" set up of full JW org invasion of Daniel 11:41 now mature by "arms" that stood up as GB infiltrators by means of that cell. Is reason for the possibility UN NGO Bethel has already apostatized, is now subverting JWs, and is INTERNALLY in the "Governing Body" add-on (1944-1976 to today) and WTS actually King North "considered" apostates and infiltrators at this time, for quite some time. If such 3rd UN cover up is Daniel 11:30-31, then Daniel 11:40-45 is King North World Government converging into Daniel 12:11 future final "place the disgusting thing" as 8th King "scarlet wild beast" world government several years from now. (Daniel 11:30-35 and Daniel 11:36-39 are parallels of the same development.) Daniel 11:41 comes on Bethel, sold to JWs as Daniel 11:44 (2Thess2:1-12), and we will be heading into Daniel 11:42-43 financial downfall of the King South nation-state, to happen first, to enable full King North world government.
Yes I agree things will get clearer for ALL people, and I mean more than just Jehovah's witnesses, because that house judgment is a signal the final cycle has begun. (Isaiah 28:18-19) And your covenant with Death will certainly be dissolved, and that vision of yours with Sheol will not stand. The overflowing flash flood, when it passes through—you must also become for it a trampling place. 19 As often as it passes through, it will take you men away, because morning by morning it will pass through, during the day and during the night; and it must become nothing but a reason for quaking TO MAKE OTHERS UNDERSTAND what has been heard.†(Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14) And I do believe, as Jesus stated, "not one particle of a letter" would go unfulfilled. Thus Bethel casting parables aside that parallel the temple judgment (Matt25:1-13; Matt22:1-14, as examples), is because their apostasy and "evil slave" "confirmed" activity is all over those prophecies and parables, they are the ones who dumped their own original "virgin" "oil", in the leaders of this apostasy INSIDE of the UN-Bethel act. They are the final SIGNAL APOSTASY LEADERSHIP, all as per signal prophecy. (Dan11:30-35; Dan8:11-14; Zech3:1-3; 2Thess2:1-12) To keep JWs in the trap, Evil-Bethel must avoid detection from the Bible's many APOSTATE LEADERSHIP parables and prophecies, but GB and Bethel fruitage reveals them even to the beginner. (2Pet2:1-3) And because they cannot crash the profaned JW org in a day (Dan8:14; Hos6:1-3; Dan8:11-14), God can use the more and more severe period of anti-JW-org events coming up, more and more globally-severe in time, to get through to many more JWs. As an example, the exposure of true "sheep beating" activities governed by guilty "evil slave" apostate Bethel, such as these latest RC expose's, can in fact wake some JWs up, as it is far more globally known and public in exposure than say the UN NGO. It is also clear to see the JW org is a pedophile protecting organization, for example, it is "suffering as an evil doer". (1Pet4:15-17) Pedophile protectors—But another "sexual" "earmark" of the kinds of GB Pharisaic men now misleading JWs from Bethel, in addition to the UN NGO spiritual fornications they ALSO CONCEALED. In time Daniel 11:41 as Luke 21:20 will get crystal clear as the JW org is globally "surrounded" and "invaded". Although Matthew 24:15 is present in the hard to "catch sight of" UN NGO "disgusting thing" even now, the Bethel corporate invasion, amidst real criminal prosecutions, will be very very hard to miss. God will make sure some JWs can catch on faster and faster, as to the evil that resides INSIDE of UN-Bethel's leadership RIGHT NOW. (2Thess2:1-4,9; Zech3:1-3; Dan11:32a; Dan8:12) But soon the reaping what has actually been sown phase will wake more and more JWs up, to get out NOW. The whole JW ministry carries UN NGO and error, and is thus profaned by lack of final truth. (John 17:17) Sanctify them by means of the truth... Bethel has to be sacked and "trampled" (Dan8:13), before that sanctifying "right condition" truth can come in fully. === Of course evil Bethel will attempt to sell all that JW org crash period as "it is the end of the world brothers!!!!!"; (2Thess2:1-2 premature end delusion of the apostasy at Bethel; (2Thess2:3-4, parallel "apostasy" Dan11:32a)) But it is the end of the Bethel apostasy, the world proceeds as foretold, to world government, it will just be the 7th King downfall, BEFORE the 8th King globally "rises" (Rev11:7; Rev17:8-12) on that 7th King required fall. World government—complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ's arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years. That truth is what Bethel is King North tasked (Dan11:32a), to conceal as long as they can, and to trap as many JWs in the process, as they can, by use of the JW org trust: Obviously Bethel is planning to use the org, to herd JWs to capture. And this is not "paranoia", this is prophecy, the enemy is INSIDE the UN sold-out JW Org (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12), INSIDE of Bethel, IN the GB, and they are out to get JWs, in the end of the Bethel corporate sacking process (Dan8:13-14; Rev8), which God will disrupt (Hos1:4-7; Rev9:1-4; Isa66:6), but it is not "the end" yet, just God and Christ securing the final warning recovery of Revelation 9-11, in final fulfillment cycle form, EN ROUTE TO 8TH KING WORLD GOVERNMENT, as foretold. === (Plus the operators inside of the JW org, have to get fair warning of the angelically deadly entities they will meet first (Isa30:8-9, for their temple and earthly removal (Hos1:4-7; Isa-6:66) well before the end, as a sign to "King North" boys.) (Isaiah 31:8-9) And the Assyrian (King North infiltrators; Hos1:4-7) must fall by the sword, not [that of] a man; and a sword (of the "Destroyer's" temple purifying angels), not [that of] earthling man, will devour him. And he must flee because of the sword, and his own young men will come to be for forced labor itself. (death; Job14:14; Isa37:36; Mic5:5-6) 9 And his own crag will pass away out of sheer fright (Rev8:8-9), and because of the signal his princes must be terrified,†is the utterance of Jehovah, whose light is in Zion and whose furnace is in Jerusalem. (They find out what "furnace" God is talking about, first hand, first. They are now getting the fair warning.) === At this time, apostate KN led Bethel wants to sell dumbed down JWs the 7th King US and EU global nation-state financial downfall (Dan11:42-43), and final global "sword stroke" (Rev13:3) coming up, as though "the end". (2Thess2:1-2) (way too soon) But as per Revelation 13:3, and Revelation 17:8 it all "heals" and "ascends" into WORLD GOVERNMENT. Thus crunching Bethel, and neutralizing their obstacles, will allow the final cycle truth to come forth (Rev9-11), prior to world government, Christ triggering, completion. (Revelation 11:7) . . .And when they have finished their (1260 days complete final warning) witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss (into world government complete; Rev17:8-12) will make war with them and conquer them and kill them.
Sis thinking, I really agree with your thoughts. The truth about prophecy will become easy to understand when the events take place. Now for a long time it has been easy to avoid idolatry. But that will surely change. Because in Revelation it clearly says that the beast will require that people worship it. While you read the Bible you encounter all the time people that got engaged in the gross sin of idolatry. Once I thought, strange that in the modern world idolatry is not at all as obvious as in the past. And nobody is requiring us to engage in idolatry. l thought what benefit is it to read in the Bible about warning examples of idolatry, when we never encounter that difficulty. For example the account of the golden statue Nebucadnessar erected for worship. But now I have to come to realize from the prophecies that this will change radically when the last 3,5 years begins.