You know, I was thinking last night, It might actually be easier to dismantle the timeline instead of recreating humans from nothing. Let me give you an example, let's say that part of the work of the 144k is to decide who from mans past will come back to earth during the 1000 years. What you could do is go back in time and grab these ones from their timeline and bring them into the future new world, that way you wouldn't have to recreate them imperfect, and then they could grow to perfection from how they were, and in fact in that way they would never have to remember death at all, since they would be removed before their death in the past. Of course you would have to start at the last days and work your way backwards that way the timeline isn't effected, but just an interesting thought experiment. Not that, that's how Jehovah would do things, but it sure would answer a few questions in scripture...

 

Well if you think about it, we could bring people into the thousand years at whatever point we wished, so therefore the idea becomes the "why". Many of those who perished in the Great Tribulation no doubt could be first back on earth because they are most familiar with this words technology and trash in order to begin to rebuild.

As to your scenario, there doesn't appear to be in scripture a discussion of those who will be raised in different times during the end other then Rev 20:5; "(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.)" but it's a possibility that this scripture is saying that the rest of the dead would not be resurrected until after the 1000 years were over, which means after Satan is destroyed. If you think about it, there are many that don't need to be tested again such as the patriarchs of the past. There would be no reason for them to live during the time Satan is let loose again.

Then we can consider the purpose of the 1000 years. It appears these years are for those who never had the chance to learn the truth to do so. I'm not sure the idea of perfection being a ceiling is a scriptural idea. To say that everyone reaches the same point. No doubt everyone has different stages of understanding, growth, but it's the understanding of Jehovah that is what is important, and the ability to choose to serve him or not. After all that is what we do today, we are nowhere near perfect but we either choose to serve him or not, that I believe is the purpose of the 1000 years and it seems the same choice man will be faced with at that time.

Someone could be resurrected 900 years into the 1000 year reign and still choose to serve God, I don't find scriptural evidence to support the common idea that mankind must all be 100% perfect by the end of the 1000 years, and as well it appears that many faithful will not have to live through that period at all and will be resurrected after the final battle at the end of that age...

 

Keep in mind that Job was speaking to Jehovah, so Job was saying he was the work of God. Job had been born of man through genetics, not created directly by Jehovah at his birth like Jesus, so therefore Job was using a metaphor for man in general.

He certainly could not have been speaking of a time after he was resurrected again because it still was not certain that he would be when he spoke those words.

Whether he is removed from his time to the new world, or recreated from dust it doesn't really matter, he still would be the work of Gods hands...

The "timeline snatch" (as you called it...lol) would kind of answer a few questions of whys and hows in scripture, but again who knows, that is pure speculation on my part, but it would be an interesting way to go about it, besides, I think it would be more fun. If you were in charge of making decisions whether individuals would have a chance to enter the 1000 year reign or not, it would be more fun to walk through history and see them in action then to thumb through books...

 

Materialism was introduced to this planet by Satan; Gen 3:5 "For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad.â€￾

Hence no Satan, no materialism.

Besides, in recent science we have discovered the universe is capable of pretty much anything we can imagine as humans. There is enough energy in a single atom to do anything we wish, here are a few examples.

"The mass of a small paper clip has roughly the energy of the atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima."

"A dollar's worth of pennies could power New York State for about two days."

So therefore one day mankind will undoubtedly have such capabilities as we see in Star Trek with their replicators, holodecks, warp drives and transporters. In fact we already know all of these things are possible, but the energy needs outweigh what we currently are capable of.

No need to concern yourself with mankind's future, they will be the jewel of the universe. The shining example as the mythical shangrala to all future worlds. You sir, will be beyond any other beings in this universe...

 

lol... Ha, I do have that side out of necessity today for digging into books, but there's also the desire to get out and experience the world! I don't think there is any doubt the new creations including Christ would spend much time back here on earth enjoying it.

But yea, walking through earths history to see individuals in their time and bringing them from there into the new world seems like a much cooler way to go about it...

 

What is the "second resurrection"? Are you saying some are resurrected twice, or are you saying that there are two time periods when resurrections occur?

Rev 20:4 "And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years."

Rev 5b,6 "This is the first resurrection. Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years."

Christs brothers come to life as part of the first resurrection, so then the second death at the end of the 1000 years has no authority because they will be spirit creatures.

Now after the 1000 years are over and Satan is destroyed then the books are opened and those in it are resurrected. These will be ones from human history before the 1000 years that were counted worthy to live for ever. Only those that didn't have the chance to learn of Jehovah will be resurrected during the 1000 years.

Rev 20:12 "And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. The dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds."

Are you saying this second resurrection is a metaphor? Please clarify.