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Life In the Universe?

Discussion in 'The Universe' started by Tsaphah, May 13, 2016.

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    Here is some interesting information about the known/unknown universe. It requires careful reading.
    Dr Natalie Batalha, Kepler mission scientist at Nasa’s Ames Research Center in California, said, “If you ask yourself where is the next habitable planet likely to be, it’s within about 11 light-years, which is very close.” (Unfortunately, as stated, “Kepler-186f resides in the Kepler-186 system, about 500 light-years from Earth in the constellation Cygnus.” How long will it take man to invent a vehicle that could travel at half the speed of light?)

    Dr Batalha said the new finds Kepler 1638b and Kepler-1229b were intriguing targets in the search for habitable planets.

    The Nasa Ames researcher said the Kepler mission was part of a “larger strategic goal of finding evidence of life beyond Earth: knowing whether we’re alone or not, to know... how life manifests itself in the galaxy and what is the diversity”.

    She added: “Being able to look up to a point of light and being able to say: ‘That star has a living world orbiting it.’ I think that’s very profound and answers questions about why we’re here.”

    We know of just one planet where life exists -- Earth. When we search for life outside our solar system we focus on finding planets with characteristics that mimic that of Earth,” said Elisa Quintana, research scientist at the SETI Institute at NASA’s Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., and lead author of the paper published today in the journal Science.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36256725

    http://www.nasa.gov/ames/kepler/nas...-planet-in-the-habitable-zone-of-another-star

     
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    Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades,
    Or loose the cords of Orion
    ?
    Can you lead forth a constellation in its season,
    And guide the Bear with her satellites
    ?
    Do you know the ordinances of the heavens,
    Or fix their rule over the earth
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    ( Job 38:32-33 NASB )

    First; read all of Job 38. Then;
    See the amazing creation of Jehovah God and his Son Jesus.

    Invisible Universe Revealed by Hubble NOVA HD


     
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    What are your thoughts, @Tsaphah ? Surely you have some on this topic. :D

    —Timothy
     
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    It’s funny you should ask. Not “funny ha-ha but, funny peculiar”. I was thinking about this a few days ago. I have two friends that I have slowly been teaching the Bible. They are quite knowledgable of the known universe but are thinking in terms of “aliens, flying saucers”, etc.

    I introduced the idea of beings that do not have physical bodies. We (humans = Homo sapiens, Anthropos) are evident, along with other animals (earthlings = “inhabitant of the earth”). For all we know or don’t know, there are other beings in this universe. The Bible speaks of angels (Aggelos ang'-el-os); a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God. In Hebrew, there are two different words, malak and shinan, which are translated as angel. There is also the Aramaic (malak) similar to Hebrew. They are all described as a messenger, or representative. Malak is from an unused root meaning to dispatch as a deputy.

    There are the other forms that exist, which are named demons/devils. There are two words, shed (shade) which is translated as devil or demon. The other word is sa’iyr (saw-eer) which is where the goat type image of a hairy goat represents Satan. It was actually hairy goat used as a sacrificial animal to false gods.

    Is there other life forms in our universe? I don’t know! WE don’t know! There will come a time when it all will be revealed. At this time WE should only be concerned with OUR belief in the true God and His Son, Jesus Christ. Any other philosophy is a waste of time and effort, with no answers.
     
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    We can't say whether physical creatures exist or not elsewhere in the cosmos I wouldn't rule it out but while there is a fair chance there are microbes it seems highly unlikely that multicellular life is present beyond earth that didn't have it's origin here at this time.

    Naturally a lot of people have the impression the existence of aliens would be a strong blow to the notion of a creator not so much while War of the Worlds popularized the concept of aliens Christians including John Milton and Gallileo among others speculated there might be intelligent life on other planets centuries before the idea was popularized and they saw no incompatibility with their faith.

    There are arguments that the pre-flood world and the post flood world until the famine in Joseph's day were far more technologically advanced than they are generally given credit that Babel may have been as tall as 16,000 feet if it had been successfully completed or that it was a spaceport it's also fairly conspicuous that there was a planet or moon in the solar system several thousand years ago where the asteroid belt is situated. The case that nuclear weaponry was utilized in several ancient cultures contemporaneously is fairly strong. It could be a lot of the finds on the moon and mars are the result of our ancestors poking around.

    In a way things played out the best they possibly could it was virtually inevitable the issue of universal sovereignty would come up and as far as we know Satan did it at the very earliest opportunity that it could involve physical creation if it had come up after humans had a couple milleniums under their belt or even at a point where there were multiple intelligent physical species it would be a lot more complicated.

    While skeptical without ruling out intelligent physical aliens in our past and present day I am firmly convinced that Jehovah will develop new forms of intelligent life whatever there nature in the future not many people give thought to that after the final test is concluded day 8 the beginning of the second creative week begins with the issue of universal sovereignty out of the way those that make it past the final test will get to witness and perhaps even participate in infinite creative weeks.

    Moreover one insight our father blessed me with years ago was the awareness of a fractal pattern in Jehovah's creation of intelligent life what is this pattern? First Jehovah created Jesus/Michael and as a result the parent/child relationship/dynamic came into existence, then the angels were created as a result Christ had peers the sibling dynamic, then humans were created they could have easily been made to reproduce asexually but our father invented gender with his physical creations and as a result the husband/wife dynamic. Each of these enabled a new and unique form of expression and manifestation of Jehovah's nature/dominant quality love in this fashion God is an artist of sorts there is an element of truth to the common belief God creates to "communicate his goodness."

    Because of this fractal pattern/theme of his creative works it's very likely that over the course of the upcoming creative weeks this pattern will repeat with new intelligent creations we cannot imagine innovatively fashioned to manifest love and God's image in new manners.
     

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