Moments In Chronology

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    The following scriptures are all part of the moment Jesus is Enthroned and occur on one single day, which include all of Rev chapters 4, 5, 6, and 10.

    Rev 4:1; "After this I saw, and look! an opened door in heaven, and the first voice that I heard speaking with me was like a trumpet, saying: "Come up here, and I will show you the things that must take place."

    Rev 5:9,10; "You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth."

    Rev 6:2; "And I saw, and look! a white horse, and the one seated on it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went out conquering and to complete his conquest."

    Rev 10:1,2; "And I saw another strong angel descending from heaven, arrayed with a cloud, and a rainbow was on his head, and his face was like the sun, and his legs were like pillars of fire,and he had in his hand a little scroll that had been unrolled."

     
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    Revelation 8:1 and 8:2 are actually separated by 1255 days. In fact Rev 8:1 occurs 2255 days after Rev 8:2 and the chapter should have begun with the second verse, not with the first. In our current bibles it reads like this;

    Rev 8:1,2; "When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them."

    However it should read like this;

    Rev 7:18; "When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour."

    Rev 8:1; "And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them."
     
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    If you would like to read Revelation in chronological order, here is the sequence of chapters in order to do so.

    12/13/11:1-6 (15,16,8:2-13,9,11:14-19=The trumpets & bowls are the same event) 4/5/6/10/7&8:1/11:7-13/17/18/14/19/20/21/22
     
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    ???? ;)

    Revelation 8:1 and 8:2 are actually separated by 1255 days. In fact Rev 8:1 occurs 2255 days after Rev 8:2...
     
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    That's right... ;) Felt like shaking things up a bit today. It was awfully quiet on here this morning. Keep in mind the original text had neither chapter nor verse numbers.

    Yes in fact Rev 8:1 occurs years after Rev 8:2. Rev 7 should end with the first verse of 8, and chapter 8 should begin with the second verse. You see, the trumpets and bowls come first. The day the 7th trumpet, 7th bowl occur is also the same day the first 5 seals occur. This is the seven thunders. The sixth seal occurs just before Armageddon. After the seventh seal is opened there is silence for a half hour in heaven, certainly not a trumpet blast. As a result of the 7th seal was silence, not the trumpet blast. Try it, sit in a total silent room for a half hour...
     
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    Okay, without further ado, the final map of Revelation...

    12 = First prophecy in Genesis 3:15 on up to the first day of the end.

    13 = The UN and Anglo-America formed after WWII.

    11:1-6 = Spiritual Israel goes into captivity. Two witnesses begin their prophesying.

    15, 16, 8:2-13​, 9, 11:14-19 = All the trumpets and bowls are the same event. The 7th trumpet and bowl as well the first six seals all occur in one day.

    4 = Open door in heaven/Jesus enthroned.

    5 = Jesus prepares to open scroll

    6 = Jesus opens first six seals.

    10 = Jesus comes down to earth with the open scroll which had the seals.

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    = The dead in Christ are resurrected the moment Jesus is enthroned, but are not raised to heaven until 40 days later.

    8:1 = Silence in heaven for half an hour.

    11:17-13 = The two witnesses are killed then resurrected three and a half days later.

    17 = Judgement on Babylon.

    18 = Babylon falls.

    14 = Some of the sons of God will be killed. Jesus comes to reap raising his chosen to heaven.

    19 = Christ marriage. Wild beast destroyed.

    20 = Satan buried alive for a 1000 years, then released for short period.

    21 = New heavens and new earth.

    22 = Jehovah is coming quickly.
     
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    If we start with the day Jesus is enthroned, we will see from scripture that this is the start of the Great Tribulation. This is also 42 months after spiritual Jerusalem went into captivity, and ends when Jesus is enthroned.

    The dead in union with Christ are resurrected the day Jesus is enthroned, but like Jesus they will be in the vicinity of the earth along with Jesus for 42 months, the duration of the Great Tribulation.

    Those still alive on earth in union with Christ will still be human but will be changed like Moses when conversing with Jehovah in the mountain. Like Jesus when he was transfigured. Like Stephen when his face glowed. Some still will be killed.

    Three and a half days after Jesus is enthroned the two witnesses are killed, then they are resurrected three and a half days later. This is the seventieth week.

    The disgusting thing stands in a holy place 30 days after Jesus is enthroned.

    Ten days later Jesus comes in the clouds to reap.
     
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    These two scriptures pertain to the same event...

    Rev 9:1-2: "The fifth angel blew his trumpet. And I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to the earth, and the key to the shaft of the abyss was given to him. He opened the shaft of the abyss, and smoke ascended out of the shaft like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun was darkened, also the air, by the smoke of the shaft."

    Rev 17:8: "The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction."
     
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    It's interesting what is said here;

    Zech 13:8,9 "And in all the land,â€￾ declares Jehovah, “Two parts in it will be cut off and perish; And the third part will be left remaining in it. And I will bring the third part through the fire; And I will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name, And I will answer them."

    It would seem that the third in Revelation's first four trumpets are the ones that will be refined;

    Rev 8:7 "The first one blew his trumpet. And there was hail and fire mingled with blood, and it was hurled to the earth; and a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green vegetation was burned up.

    The second angel blew his trumpet. And something like a great mountain burning with fire was hurled into the sea. And a third of the sea became blood; and a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were wrecked.

    The third angel blew his trumpet. And a great star burning like a lamp fell from heaven, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of waters. The name of the star is Wormwood. And a third of the waters turned into wormwood, and many of the people died from the waters, because these had been made bitter.

    The fourth angel blew his trumpet. And a third of the sun was struck and a third of the moon and a third of the stars, in order that a third of them might be darkened and the day might not have light for a third of it, and the night likewise."

    It's possible that in fact the third spoken of as burned up, bitterness experienced and as well darkness is their experiences as believers going through the collapse of the WTS. So therefore they are being refined, being the ones who will eventually be saved.
     
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    It is interesting that according to Zechariah, the third that are burned up in the first four trumpets in Rev are God's people being refined like gold in the fire after the fall of the WTS. These are the ones that will actually make it, so in reality two thirds of current worshippers of Jehovah will fall away.

    Rev 8:7,8 "The first one blew his trumpet. And there was hail and fire mingled with blood, and it was hurled to the earth; and a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green vegetation was burned up. The second angel blew his trumpet. And something like a great mountain burning with fire was hurled into the sea. And a third of the sea became blood; and a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were wrecked."

    Zach 13:7-9 "O sword, awake against my shepherd, Against the man who is my companion,†declares Jehovah of armies.“Strike the shepherd, and let the flock be scattered; And I will turn my hand against those who are insignificant.†“And in all the land,†declares Jehovah,“Two parts in it will be cut off and perish; And the third part will be left remaining in it. And I will bring the third part through the fire; And I will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name, And I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people,’ And they will say, ‘Jehovah is our God.’
     
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    Rev 10:7 "There will be no delay any longer. But in the days when the seventh angel is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret that God declared as good news to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

    1 Cor 15:51 "Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed."
     
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    Rev 16:12 "The sixth one poured out his bowl on the great river Eu·phraʹtes, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the rising of the sun."

    Rev 17:15 "The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues."
     
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    Eze 10:2 "Then he said to the man clothed in linen: “Enter between the wheelwork, under the cherubs, and fill both your hands with burning coals from between the cherubs and toss them over the city.” So he entered as I watched."

    Rev 8:7 "The first one blew his trumpet. And there was hail and fire mingled with blood, and it was hurled to the earth;"

    Rev 13:13 "And it performs great signs, even making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind."

    Dan 11:30 "He will go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant"

    Dan 8:11 "It exalted itself even against the Prince of the army,"

    Dan 7:8 "And look! there were eyes like human eyes in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking arrogantly."

    Rev 13:5 "It was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies,"
     
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    Judgement on God's own people;

    "Here I am setting a fire ablaze against you, and it will consume every green tree and every dry tree in you. The burning flame will not be extinguished, and every face will be scorched by it, from south to north. And all flesh will see that I myself, Jehovah, have set it afire, so that it will not be extinguished.”
    Exe 20:47

    "The first one blew his trumpet. And there was hail and fire mingled with blood, and it was hurled to the earth; and a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green vegetation was burned up." Rev 8:7
     
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    "But your day has come, O fatally wounded, wicked chieftain of Israel, the time of your final punishment. This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘Remove the turban, and take off the crown. This will not remain the same. Raise up the low one, and bring low the high one." Exe 21:25

    "In this way, the last ones will be first, and the first ones last."
    Mth 20:16
     
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    Rev 16:4 "The third one poured out his bowl into the rivers and the springs of water. And they became blood. I heard the angel over the waters say: “You, the One who is and who was, the loyal One, are righteous, for you have issued these judgments, because they poured out the blood of holy ones and of prophets, and you have given them blood to drink; they deserve it.” And I heard the altar say: “Yes, Jehovah God, the Almighty, true and righteous are your judgments.”

    "They" that are spoken of here in the third bowl are once followers of our Lord, who believe he has delayed and start to beat their fellow slaves and drink with the drunken women of Revelation, scattering Gods chosen people out among wolves without a shepherd to go looking for them. (Eze 34:5)

    Mth 24:48-51 "But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be."
     
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    Good luck with that mess!
     
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    Jer 4:9,10 "“In that day,” declares Jehovah, “the heart of the king will fail him, Also the heart of the princes;The priests will be horrified, and the prophets will be amazed.” Then I said: “Alas, O Sovereign Lord Jehovah! Truly you have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats.”

    Eze 13:10 "All of this is because they have led my people astray by saying, “There is peace!” when there is no peace. When a flimsy partition wall is built, they are plastering it with whitewash.’
     
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    Eze 10:4 "The cherubs were standing to the right of the house when the man entered, and the cloud filled the inner courtyard. And the glory of Jehovah rose up from the cherubs to the threshold of the doorway of the house, and the house gradually became filled with the cloud, and the courtyard was full of the brightness of the glory of Jehovah. And the sound of the wings of the cherubs could be heard in the outer courtyard, like the sound of God Almighty when he speaks."

    Rev 15:7,8 "One of the four living creatures gave the seven angels seven golden bowls that were full of the anger of God, who lives forever and ever. And the sanctuary became filled with smoke because of the glory of God and because of his power, and no one was able to enter the sanctuary until the seven plagues of the seven angels were finished."
     
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    "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Mth 24:14)

    "And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.” (Rev 14:6,7)
     

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