Peace and Security/Christs Return/Dead in Christ Resurrected/Raised

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    There's no other camp here than God's, which is why the main rule on this db is not to take sides. You are the one who wants us to take sides whereas you say that there aren't sides when it comes to considering other religions than the JWs. A little bit of coherence please....

    This site isn't mine but belongs to their members and is made up of what they bring in.... which was so far a mirror image of what the fruitage of the Spirit was meant to be.
     
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    ...another 'Son of God'. He finds the ways of his religion despicable now, tyrannical, devious, sly, and slippery,ssssss.

    These words describe apocalypses action and intentions perfectly....I for one cannot believe this man is talking like this on this forum and also has the ordasity to go to meetings ...and even treachously hold a position of authority....

    This is nothing short of Judas like behavior ...you utterly disgust me....I consider you both extremely dangerous men to Jehovahs sheep.

    What did Jesus say to Peter.....not once but three times......Peter look after my sheep....

    Moderators you do not have to try to find a happy medium for anybody..you do not have to please me...or anybody else...nor do I expect that.

    The only person you need to please is Jehovah..these men are happy where they are and they will never change.

    Did Jesus show love to the money changers in temples.....there is a time to act and a time to not act...
    He cleared out the rabble....you both talk such utter rubbish

    As far as saying apocalypse is in our camp...well Judas was also in Jesus camp too.

    All we are doing here is going down to their level,with this toing and froing....this is exactly what they want...to keep us away from up building conversations.

    John S you are as bad as apocalypse...I've watched the way you work...both of you.....you take things to the edge and then on threats of being removed you both go nice and soft...and then when you think you have weaseld your ways back and are safe...your right back at it again.

    Apocalypse or you have no right to pull any chains of or uncover any sins of the watchtower or society.......are you already acting as kings !!.
    You are very presumptuously stepping into Jesus Christ our kings position......how dare either of you try to upsurge his hard earned right to do that ...that right given to him by our Almighty God Jehovah.....have either of you no humility..no shame .
     
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    Hi All,

    I've got to agree with John on this subject of the memorial.

    Jesus said quite plainly at:

    John 6:
    53 Accordingly Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves. 54 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. It is not as when YOUR forefathers ate and yet died. He that feeds on this bread will live forever.”

    Is this not what the memorial is about?

    No life in yourselves if you do not partake. It certainly is a requirement from Jesus himself.

    And with regards to those leaving or who have already left or who have been kicked out. The exodus has already begun and sites like this are needed so that there is a place to go and have contact with others of like faith.

    Remember when Jerusalem was surrounded by the Romans and Jesus said get out. Those who got out no doubt led a rought life - but they avoided the complete destruction 3.5 years later.

    The recent court case in Australia and the ngo affair and other monetary adventures of the WT has attracted negative attention from the governments of this world.

    This is just my own opinion but it seems these are habingers of what is to come. When the "courtyard" is surrounded do you want to be inside or somewhere else?

    Just some thoughts that come to mind from these last few posts.

    Be blessed and be a blessing.

    Joe
     
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    Hi all,

    I am trying to speak in such a way so as not to accuse any one or judge anyone and yet it seems there are those who are offended.

    We are all living in trying times and all of us have been hurt in various ways by this old world and by the weeds that Jesus said would be present amoung christians in the time of the end.

    How do we deal with this?

    Who should we trust?

    John 14:
    1 “Do not let YOUR hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God, exercise faith also in me.

    This fits nicely with:

    Psalm 146:
    2 I will praise Jehovah during my lifetime.
    I will make melody to my God as long as I am.
    3 Do not put YOUR trust in nobles,
    Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
    4 His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground;
    In that day his thoughts do perish.
    5 Happy is the one who has the God of Jacob for his help,
    Whose hope is in Jehovah his God,

    When the WT GB made the statement:

    "Trust us because Jehovah and Jesus trust's us." That statement sent chills down my spine.

    Does Jehovah and Jesus put trust in any man?

    Just another of the many things that cause me concern for those still in subjection to them.

    If certain ones hate me or others for caring enough to warn of the things coming then I will accept that.

    But the motive for saying these things is not hateful but rather out of love of the bible and concern for those who are being affected by these things mentioned.

    Be blessed and be a blessing.

    Joe
     
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    This may be hard for you to grasp, and I don't want to seem smug to you about it, I am hoping maybe it will spark something in you, but not everyone agrees with you. Okay, relax, I know, but I just thought I'd let you know. Again, "not everyone agrees with you".

    This seems to be a hard concept for some to understand for some reason, so I'll say it one more time, not everyone agrees with you. You don't have a mission from God here, you have a mission from John S. We are all mature Christians here, you are not teaching us anything new. In fact you are harping on the same old subject over and over that we've heard for years... "The WTS is bad, bla bla bla." Where is your meat, instead of this milk all the time???

    We have been together here for a decade, and your the little guy that comes in the group as we are standing around in a circle, going on about everything how he thinks he knows everything. We call people like that "topper". You see they always think they have to top everyone else's stories. Not only is it very annoying, but it's winning you no friends.

    What you have found here is a group of Christians that are following the path of the Bereans, we actually search the scriptures. No one in our group believes the WTS is part of Babylon, so you are wasting your time with that. No amount of energy you expend here will draw any of us away from the KH. So you can either except that you are on equal footing with everyone else here and relax and wait for our Lord along with us, or move on with your mission to save JW's somewhere else.

    I have now banned apocalypse for 7 days, this message is an attempt by me to reach you before such actions.
     
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    Jehovah's will has always been for humans to be saved through themselves, hence the promise to Abraham that the nations would bless themselves and the fact that Jesus became a man. Although imperfect, Jehovah has always trusted his prophets and those whom he sent, Jesus trusted his apostles and Jehovah trusts those whom he chooses and anoints. Granted, despite said trust, things have never been easy for the both of them and for everyone. When the Sons of God are revealed and empowered, the "creation" will have to trust what will appear to be humans to human eyes and many won't make it because of false expectations uttered by false prophets, among whom the GB are full-fledged parts. The GC will be saved only if they recognize that Christ's brothers aren't ordinary and expendable men.....

    That has been God's ways right from the start, that is, his own glorification, not even despite, but through our failures.... Jesus' death, which we commemorate tonight, was a failure, why, even a curse to human eyes..... Why would there be any change respecting his spiritual body.....?

    Thanks for your balanced post. ☺
     
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    Brother, greetings...

    It's people like John S who misinterpret scripture that cause division...

    The scriptures clearly say the disgusting thing will be placed at the end of the 3.5 years, not the beginning, therefore it is vital to understand when this call to flee comes, it makes a huge difference.

    There are 1290 days when the constant feature is removed before the disgusting thing is placed. (Dan 12:11)

    Also read Rev 11:2, it is the courtyard that is surrounded for 3.5 years, the temple is left alone. We are to flee when the temple is entered, that is at the end of the 42 months, not the beginning.

    So much damage has been done in this world from mishandling scripture, dear Lord please come...
     
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    Amen to that Joshua!!!
     
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    Come Lord Jesus!!!
     
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