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    Very interesting. It might cause some problems though regarding the reliability of DNA testings for police investigations...
     
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    First time I have heard of this.
     
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    This all came about from the custody hearing in the divorce of Lydia Fairchild. The first DNA test showed that the children did not share here DNA. She said that those children came out of her. She was there in the hospital. Then, an argument was made that she was only a surrogate for the children. Further DNA test of her internal organs proved her to be their mother. She was a “Siamese twin” and shared both DNA types.
     
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    The article doesn't even mention the most important advancement entanglement would bring to mankind, and that is instant communication. First off there would be no delay such as video feeds in news feeds, or cell phones. There would be no signal loss, and no distance limit. Apparently it does not matter how far apart the particles are, even from one end of the universe to the other makes no difference.

    I always think of Eisenstein's comment that the process was a "spooky reaction at a distance." But I didn't realize we were actually experimenting with forms of communication with entanglements. 1200 km is a pretty big step. It's interesting they have to separate the particles at each point of experiment, they would certainly need to maintain a permanent stable separation for a viable system.

    I read an interesting theory in M-theory about another possible communication as well, in that of gravitational waves. Being able to manipulate strong gravitational waves may allow communication across membranes... (So the theory goes)
     
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    There is a section in the book, “The Great Unknown”, about gravitational waves and Einstein’s theory. I was reading the section about acceleration and gravity. I just began the section titled “Asymmetrical Twins.” And then, here comes the news article about this satellite and division of twin photons. WOW!!
     
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    Now, how do these two atoms communicate faster then light? Do they share electrons, and if so, how do they travel?

    Even with the restrictions Eisenstein put on space and time, it's still amazing. Like, we know we can move faster, how about slower? You would have to have some kind of perspective I suppose, but time is always constant to the observer.

    There is so much more we don't know about the universe then we do, such as stars need matter to form, yet it's believed matter is created in stars. And what about stars that are older then the current held age of the universe, such as the Methuselah star?

    Oh that reminds me, I read an interesting article about the human brain yesterday (the most complex object known to exist). It discusses the number of dimensions the human brain calculates in. https://www.sciencealert.com/new-study-discovers-your-brain-actually-works-in-up-to-11-dimensions

    It's questions like these that fascinate me so much about creation...
     
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    Here are a few pages from The Great Unknown by Marcus Du Sautoy. I couldn't include the illustrations spoken of.

    WHY SKYSCRAPERS AREN’T GOOD FOR YOU​

    “Einstein’s second assault on the nature of time came when he threw gravity into the mix. His general theory of relativity, developed between 1907 and 1915, describes the very geometric nature of gravity.
    Gravity is not really a force but a property of the way this four dimensional sheet of space-time is curved. The moon orbits the Earth because the mass of the Earth distorts the shape of space-time in such a way that the moon simply rolls around the curved shape of space-time in this region. The force of gravity is an illusion. There is no force.
    Objects are just free-falling through the geometry of space-time, and what we observe is the curvature of this space. But if massive bodies can distort the shape of space, they can also have an effect on time.
    This was yet another one of Einstein’s great revelations, and it is based, once again, on a principle of equivalence. The strange consequences of special relativity are teased out of the principle of relativity, which states that it is impossible to tell whether I am moving or my environment is moving past me. Einstein applied a similar principle of equivalence to gravity and acceleration.
    If you are floating out in space, in a spaceship with no windows, and I place a large massive planet underneath the spaceship, you will be pulled toward the floor. This is the force of gravity. But if instead I accelerate the ship upward, you will experience exactly the same sensation of being pulled toward the floor. Einstein hypothesized that there is no way to distinguish between the two: gravity and acceleration produce the same effects.
    Let’s suppose that our spaceship is as tall as the Shard in London. I’m going to place a photon clock at the bottom of the spaceship and another at the top. Next to each clock I’m going to station an astronaut who will help me compare the running of these two clocks.
    The astronaut at the bottom of the spaceship is going to send a pulse of light to the astronaut at the top each time his clock ticks. The astronaut at the top can then compare the arrival of these pulses with the ticking of her clock. Without acceleration or gravity, the arrival of the pulses and the ticking of the clocks will be in sync. However, let me now accelerate the spaceship in the direction of the top of the spaceship. A pulse is emitted at the bottom of the spaceship, and, as the spaceship accelerates away, the light has farther to travel each time, so that it takes longer and longer for each pulse to reach the top of the spaceship, and the astronaut at the top will receive the pulses at a slower rate. This is similar to the Doppler effect we experience with sound, where moving away from the source causes the frequency to decrease, resulting in a lower pitch. But in this case it is important to note that the spaceship is accelerating rather than just flying along at a constant speed.
    The clock at the bottom of the spaceship will appear to be going slower than the clock at the top. But what if I reverse the experiment and get the astronaut at the top of the spaceship to send pulses down to the bottom of the spaceship? Because the astronaut at the bottom is accelerating toward the pulses, he is going to receive them at a faster rate than the pulses of light he is sending. So he will confirm that his clock is running slower than the clock at the top of the spaceship.
    The interesting conclusion of the experiment comes when I replace acceleration with gravity. According to Einstein’s principle of equivalence, whatever effect acceleration had on the clocks in the
    spaceship, the effect of gravity must be the same. So when I place a large planet at the foot of our Shard-sized spaceship, the impact is the same as if the spaceship were accelerating through space: clocks run slower at the foot of the Shard than they do at the top.
    Since the aging body is a clock, this means that you age slower the closer you are to the center of the Earth-people working at the top of the Shard in London are aging faster than those on the ground floor.”

    “Of course, the difference in the speed of the clocks is extremely small at this scale, but it makes a significant difference if we compare the ticking of atomic clocks on the surface of the Earth with those in orbit on satellites. The difference in gravity experienced by the two clocks results in them ticking at different rates. Since these atomic clocks are integral to the functioning of GPS, it is essential that the effect of gravity on time is taken into account if the systems are to be accurate.”

    The following was part of a program presented at the Morrison Planetarium in San Francisco about 30 years ago. It dealt with space-time and travel into space from earth.

    ASYMMETRICAL TWINS​

    “There is a classic story that reveals the strange nature of time in Einstein’s new world. It involves sending twins , or actually one twin , on a space journey. It is particularly close to my heart because I have identical twin girls, Magaly and Ina. If I send Ina off on a spaceship traveling at the speed of light and then bring her back yo Earth, the physics of relativity implies that, although she will think that she’s been away for only ten years, her twin sister’s clock on Earth has raced ahead, so that Magaly is now in her eighties.”

    “To truly understand the asymmetric nature of the story, I need to take into account Einstein’s revelation about the effect of gravity and acceleration on time. Once Ina is traveling at a constant speed close to the speed of light, Einstein’s first revelation declares that neither twin is running slower, and Magaly will think Ina’s is slower. So why does Ina return younger?
    Ina a returns younger because she has to accelerate to get to her constant speed. Similarly, when she turns around she needs to decelerate and then accelerate in the opposite direction. This causes her clock to slow down relative to that of her twin on Earth, who doesn’t accelerate. This asymmetry results in Ina heading into Magaly’s future. If I sent both twins off in spaceships in opposite directions and brought them back together, then they’d be the same age-and everyone on Earth would have aged quicker.
    Einstein’s general theory of relativity revealed that time as well as space gets pulled about by things with mass. Gravity is actually the distortion of this space-time surface. If something has mass, it curves the surface. The classic way to imagine this is to consider space-time as a two-dimensional surface, and the effect of mass as that of placing a ball on this surface. The ball pulls the surface down,
    creating a well. Gravity can be thought of as the way things get pulled down into this well.
    This distortion of space-time has an interesting effect on light. Light follows the shortest path between two points-the definition of a "straight" line. But I am now talking about lines in space-time,
    where distance is measured using Minkowski’s formula that includes the coordinates of space and time. Weirdly, using Minkowski’s formula, it turns out that the distance between two points in space-time is reduced if the light takes longer to get there.
    So in order to find the shortest space-time path, light will follow a trajectory that tries to balance a minimizing of distance traveled against a maximizing of time taken. By following a trajectory such that the light particle is essentially free-falling, the clocks on board the particle will go faster. Pull against gravity and you are accelerating and thus slowing your clock down. So Einstein’s theory predicted that light would be bent by the presence of a large mass. It was a highly unexpected prediction, but one that could be tested-a perfect scenario for a scientific theory.
    British astronomer Arthur Eddington’s observations of light from distant stars recorded during the solar eclipse of 1919 provided convincing evidence for this picture of a curved space-time. The theory predicted that the light from distant stars would be bent by the gravitational effect of the sun. Eddington needed the eclipse to block out the glare of the sun so that he could see the stars in the sky. The fact that the light did indeed seem to bend round objects of large mass confirmed that the shortest paths weren’t Euclidean straight lines but curved.” (The Great Unknown by Marcus Du Sautoy, pp. 264-265)’’

     

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    This makes sense, and I hadn't thought of acceleration in that way before. Therefore time is greatly diminished as one approaches a black hole, regardless of your speed, then again they are proportional right? Hmm...
     
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    Einstein’s famous equation, E=mc2, which implied that matter and energy were equivalent and, more specifically, that a single particle of matter could be converted into a huge quantity of energy.
    https://www.space.com/17661-theory-general-relativity.html

    The following is a new equation for Einstein’s famous equation, from a theoretical physicist friend of mine. We have discussed this for several months.

    A Fundamental Particle of Relativistic Mass
    By Chuck Bennett
    April 2017​

    In 1905, Einstein postulated that the speed of light is invariant regardless of the velocities of platforms traveling relative to each other [1]. In addition, he stipulated that the laws of physics must hold true in all circumstances. In order for this postulate to be valid, the measurement parameters (time, linear dimension and mass) must warp according to the Lorentz transformations. As luminal speed is approached, a traveling object increases in mass. Einstein’s relativistic mass requires an agent of mass transfer.

    An elemental particle is hereby proposed to facilitate the increase in mass. The conservation of energy is a fundamental law of physics. Under these conditions the conservation of energy is upheld. Since mass is equivalent to energy and the conservation of energy is to be maintained, mass also must be conserved [2].

    For application purposes, fluid mechanics becomes quantum mechanics. The Q- particle is an agent for mass transfer from the surroundings to the particle in flight.

    EQ=mQc2 = hfQ
    mQ=hfQ/c2

    The interaction of Q particles opens the door for a wide area of relativistic fluid mechanics. For example, the continuity equation can be applied to the Q field so that mass becomes a vortex of Q particles.

    References:
    [1] A. Einstein, “On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies,” Annalen Derphysic, vol 17, no 5, September 26, 1905, pp 891-921.

    [2] A. Einstein, “Does the Inertia of a Body Depend Upon its Energy?” Annalen Derphysic, vol 18, no 3, November 21, 1905, pp 639-641.

    chuckbennett55@gmail.com


     
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    Have you studied Rife...and his quantum entanglement rife machines that Einstein was talking about ...
    I have a rife machine...and it really does work...it uses your DNA,,,,and can effect some one across the globe ...it does seem spooky..but it's just frequencies ...this aspect of what you amd Bro T are talking about is called energy healing ...my limited knowledgement ..is in the health area ( spooky reaction at a distance ) ..not in what you two are talking about...( communications )....but it's all along the same principles...( I think )
     
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    I don’t know anything about the “Rife Machine”, other than what has been posted on the web. I read an article about a woman being sued for false claims of treating cancer with one of these machines. And, the ones I see on the web are expensive. $179 to $4220.00 US dollars. The sellers claim that they cure virus and bacteria, cancer etc. Then there is the AmpCoil PEMF Device

    I would have to study these before making a statement about their effectiveness. I’m always cautious about things of this nature.
     
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    Just like all system of the world..satan rules and governs them..the health and pharmaceutical company is just one of many ...many bad rife machines out there and false comapanies too...if you do look one up...let me lead you to a short cut....look up spooky2...... and don't let that name scare you....its named after what Einstein called the quantum entaglement ...spooky...his words not mine.....and the number 2 comes from their second improvement on the machine....it works but it's not a miracle thing....well actually sometimes it does work like that..lol.....or,feels like it anyway.....my set up cost me $800..... I've use it for nearly a year now and have seen much improvement ....they are being banned a lot..as they work..and Are interfering with a multi billion dollar industry...
    This company could sell there outfit for many tens of thousand of dollars...but they work for the good of mankind and do it at nearly cost price..and even give them away to very sick people..
    I don't like talki n g publicly on this subject...but you don't PM so I had to....it's worth a peep for you....happy researching
     

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