Should you take the vaccine?

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    Cancer: is a genetic disease, meaning cancer is caused by certain changes to genes that control the way our cells function, especially how they grow and Divide.


    The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine is an mRNA vaccine. The other vaccine choices may be as well. Look into it. These vaccines are NOT FDA approved ONLY FDA authorized for emergency use.

    About them:
    An mRNA is known as manipulating DNA replication.

    DNA stands for DeoxyribonNucleic Acid.
    mRNA stands for messenger RibonNucleic Acid.

    An mRNA vaccine is a vaccine shot that sends a new code or message into your DNA thus altering your DNA and genetic code.
    First you need a primer which is the first of the two shots. The first shot would contain nucleic acid to prime your DNA for recieving the second shot which is the new code.

    Imagine a ladder with rungs. Cut that ladder in half right down the center of the rungs. That is what your DNA strands look like. The left side of the now cut ladder is your Exons. The right side is your Introns. The Exon side contain a genetic code which matches up with the Intron side. With the vaccine the head end of your genetic code and the tail end of your genetic code is spliced out and put in its place is the new code.

    Your body replicates your billions of strands of DNA trillions of times a day. With the new code entered in your DNA your body recognizes errors, because the Exon side isn't matching up with the Intron side. Now the body recognizes these errors and tries to compensate for them by creating proteins. Your body will compensate and correct 99% of the errors it catches. The problem is that your body replicates trillions of these new error codes each day, catching 99% of these errors. Thats 1% of trillions that slip past unfixed and get replicated every day.
    This piles up inside your body over a year or two and you end up with cancer.
    100% you will eventually have cancer.


    My kids took this vaccine as the Governing Body encouraged it without encouraging it. You know how that goes...

    So what do you do if you took the vaccine?

    Well they claim its only good for a 6 month period and so they recommend you take another one and another one and in fact make it a yearly vaccine because every year they will claim a new strain developed. (That's not how infectious diseases work.)

    My answer is don't take any more vaccines which will speed up the piling of errors in your DNA, making your cancer come quicker.
    Blood tests only detect blood cancers. Cancers are hard to detect before they really start to affect your body and you have visible signs.

    To kill cancer cells
    you could take Ivermectin. This used to be an over the counter chewable for dogs, by weight, but since it has cured many peoples cancer it has been taken down and is under doctor control.

    To prevent cancer:

    Another option is vitamin B15 and B17. I bought mine off ebay since its hard to find in stores because these vitamins are demonized and called "cyanide" by doctors who don't want to loose money on cancer treatments. I use it for diabetes and putting needed enzymes back into my pancreas.
    Also building up your body's Alkaline levels, lowering your intake of acidic foods will kill cancer cells along with eating antioxidants. Basically Oxygen kills cancer cells.

    My brother chose this strict diet route to cure (its never really gone) his stage 4 melanoma cancer along with vitamins B15,B17.



    Be cautious about everything and research everything for yourself from non biased and non politicized works.
    Science as an organization doesn't believe in God. We get our morals from God therefore Science has no morals. Stay cautious.
     
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    If the vaccines have been administered the advice I have seen is to support your immune system by ensuring Vitamin D, C & Zinc levels are as good as possible and continue with a natural food diet. Support the immune system.

    Dr Paul Yanick now deceased was one of Jehovah's Witnesses who specialised in producing high density nutritional products to cure disease. He fell in and out of love with the WTBTS.

    Personally I would not take these 'treatments' voluntarily. For many reasons three foremost practical reasons.

    1.) The high recovery rate of the virus. 2.) The therapeutic protocols which exist, seem to work well, and are being suppressed such as HCQ and Ivermectin. 3.) The emergency use of these treatments has resulted in the companies producing them ironically demanding 'immunity' from legal recourse for ill effects.

    If I had taken the 'treatments' I would treat it as a mental excersize in expunging concern. I have regretted taking medical treatments in the past outside of this present situation which I subsequently found to have unadvertised negative effects. It's not uncommon. I saw a christendomite person suggesting that the changes in the RNA gene from the treatments causes a person to be a creation not-in-the-image that god created any more. I think this is hyperbolic nonsense.

    As I understand it the Pharma companies are not publishing the ingredients. This alone makes WTBTS entirely culpable for a lack of counsel. It is not legally controversial to advise to only put in your body things that you can identify what they are.

    The treatments are not free the Pharma companies are charging the national governments for them. The political re-ordering of western society with the virus emanating out of a country who had ostensibly entered a trade war situation make the timing of the whole situation suspicious.

    Many people are not talking about their concerns. It is most healthful advice to air concerns.

    Brave.
     
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    I read on the internet what it has to say on ivemectren. It's absolutely amazing that this has been overlooked for so long.

    It seems that cancer is a parasitic organism. And it's killed by a parasitic drug.

    The only drawback that I can see here is that if you kill a bunch of tumors in your body all at once you're going to have a lot of putrefying dead cells in your body.

    It remains to be seen just how powerful this stuff is against cancer
     
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    I'm not taking any vaccines. But two of my brothers in Christ were fired for not getting vaccinated. One brother had been with the company 23 years.
     
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    I believe we should have a choice...
     
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    It's a good thing that I tend to be a homebody, I mean everything I have and need is right here at home. Depending where you live it's getting difficult to just go out and enjoy life. In NYC you need to be fully vaccinated to go out and eat, mingle, enjoy a convert or movie, ridiculous.

    Now, I'm not anti-vax, i'm just anti-forcing me to get vax.

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    I don't know why, but it bugs me to high heaven when I see headlines talking about COVID cases because cases can mean anything from asymptomatic to full-on ICU. It doesn't say anything but must sound good for the news because it's a "big" number. Make people afraid, I guess, to the point where OMG we're all going to die!

    Healthwise, I take common-sense precautions at work with other people, short of mask wearing-- although when the weather turns colder I might resume mask-wearing if it hasn't been mandated, when a customer drops into the shop. It'll be whatever common sense dictates.

    I do try to maintain "social distancing," as well. Not hard to do since I'm behind a counter with a shield between me and the other person, of course.

    But the big pharma vaccine?

    Pfizer and Moderna are shady. [Who Paid the Largest CRIMINAL fine in History?] Not convinced I want their chemical in my body.

    The vaccine has NOT been tested extensively, although I keep hearing that expression over and over on FB and in the news. It's BEING tested, and that's what they need to admit publicly.

    When a non-vaccinated person gets COVID, the media claims it's because they didn't get the vaccine; when a vaccinated person gets COVID, the media declares it "break-through" infection. Win-win. And don't get me started on all the arguments from silence: we're told that if the person hadn't been vaccinated, their infection would've been worse. Unless they have a crystal ball that shows them the other future that "might" have happened, that's unproveable. It's fear-mongering.

    And why hasn't there been more coverage of the four antibiotics that are available for anyone contracting COVID? This would seem to be essential information ESPECIALLY for those not choosing to have the experimental vaccine!

    Medically, I am also HIGHLY CONCERNED about the side effects it has on the heart. My dad had a bad heart that killed him, and I've known since the first time I experienced my heart's fibrillation back when I was 8 or 9, and knew that unless I got cancer, my heart would be what kills me. Cancer runs strong on my mom's side, and killed my one aunt. Bad business, cancer. But my mom and her two sisters AND brother all developed cancer.

    Unless I get killed in a car accident. People are TERRIBLE drivers! I've got a dashcam and a rearcam that can prove it. Daily! Dangerous stuff!! I've had some pretty close calls because of stupid drivers— and I'm a very conservative driver. In other words, I drive like an old man... but always at the speed limit. lol

    One last thought and I gotta get off here... big cities, with everyone all piled on top of each other in their apartment buildings and skyscrapers? Now THERE is some breeding ground for COVID. o_O

    Man was not created to pile on top of each other in tightly-cramped living spaces like he does today. A metropolis like New York is a perfect Petri dish, and Detroit, and San Diego... Hundreds of hot spots in this country alone. Anyone who argues "If" instead of "When" has to categorically reject the staggering, even overwhelming obviousness of this reality.

    The focus of the talking heads and the media is on getting people afraid: "You will DIE if you don't accept the vaccine!" is the resounding echo across the headlines I've been monitoring since last year.

    Ezekiel was led to write, "The soul who sins is the one who will die," and Paul noted, "...all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God..." so people are going to die with or without the vaccine. Further, the life I yearn for is not going to be derived from some vaccine. My disease, my sinfulness cannot be removed through a jab in my arm.

    When Peter and John stood before the Supreme Court of their age, they made it clear that "There is salvation in no one else! God has given no other name under heaven by which we must be saved.”

    The salvation *I* seek isn't something Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, or any of the other pharmaceutical corporations can provide me.

    Not that I seek to die from COVID! Like I said, I take common sense precautions to mitigate risks until we've all learned more about this virus. And I may contract it, and it would suck. A lot! But I could get in a multi-car pile-up tomorrow, or die from my imperfect heart, or breaking my neck coming down the stairs, or a robbery at work. Like I said, I do what is within my abilities, short of an experimental vaccine, to mitigate risk to myself as well as to others. It's common sense as far as I'm concerned.

    And the time may come when their vaccines become mandatory. While I cannot say with any certainty what I will do at that point, I plan to subject myself to the authority over me— after all, all authority rests with our Father-- even wicked rulers. And this, simply because I no longer have a real choice at that point. Am I willing to die or lose a practical, viable source of income to provide for the needs of those beloved in my life? No, in a compulsory vaccine scenario, those imposing their will over me set themselves in judgment before the Father, and I trust His judgment in the matter and have faith that this body can certainly be replaced by the will of our Father— one that, hopefully, isn't given to obesity and a ticking bomb in my imperfect heart.

    The Bible is replete with instances where those trying to serve and worship God were placed under compulsions by wicked men and leaders. As believers today, we don't get a free pass as we experience things throughout our lives that test and temper our faith, right?

    Alright, alright, I've gone on long enough and it's getting late for this old man.

    A brother and fellow believer,
    Timothy
     
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    Did you know the third leading cause of death in this country is medical malpractice? Think about that...
     
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    I'm a type 2 diabetic, and tend to have high blood pressure. I have it under control. The only doctor I see regularly is my endocrinologist. I've been working through this whole "pandemic". Touching dirty mail, doorknobs, mailboxes, handrails, elevator buttons, etc. I don't wear a mask, I don't use sanitizer. I haven't had a physical in over 5 years.

    My ex-wife is a scientist, having worked in the pharmaceutical industry for over 35 years, testing and making drugs, and she won't even take the vaccine.

    Trust in the Lord.

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    This is a good question. I wonder about the same thing. The vaccinations have a lot of publicity, but not much has been said about the treatments.
     
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    I wouldn't, if its a choice.
     
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    Yea, I'm out...
     

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