Text for Friday, May 3rd

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    Friday, May 3


    “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as
    righteousness,†and he came to be called “Jehovah’s friend.†—Jas. 2:23.


    Abraham came to be
    “Jehovah’s friendâ€â€”and that before the ransom sacrifice was offered.
    (Isa. 41:8) What, then, about true Christians who hope to live in the restored earthly Paradise?

    These
    have not received
    “the free gift of righteousness†with heavenly life in view “through the release
    by the ransom paid by Christ Jesus.†(Rom. 3:24; 5:15, 17) Nevertheless,they exercise deep faith
    in God and his provisions, and they manifest their faith by good works. One such work is that of

    “preaching the kingdom of God. . . and teaching the things concerning the Lord Jesus Christ.â€
    (Acts 28:31)

    Thus, Jehovah can view these as righteous in the
    sense that he did Abraham. The
    gift such ones receive—friendship with God—differs from “the free gift†the anointed receive.


    Yet, it certainly is a gift that they accept with deep gratitude.


    w11
    6/15 2:19, 20

     
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    I often think about examples such as Abraham and other pre-Christian servants of Jehovah. They didn't have the Bible as we now have it, in its current form. Nor did Abraham live to see the fulfillment of the promises that Jehovah made to him. But he could see them through the "eyes of faith" - in the mind's eye.

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    Even Jesus' disciples didn't have the Bible as we have it now, not only the NT but the OT also. Effectively, Paul's quotations of the OT in his letters were taken from the XXL. I've been focusing my Bible study on the XXL since a few months ago and I'm currently reading a book written by those who have issued a French edition of the XXL. There are quite a certain number of differences between the Masoretic Text and the XXL. Those differences don't make the XXL a new book when compared with the MT but the differences are interesting (and significant at times) and as the XXL fell into oblivion over the centuries, many interpretations and teachings established by the first Christians and later the so-called Church's fathers were forgotten too (in addition of becoming impossible in Hebrew because the associations of ideas and connections aren't possible anymore for some of them from Greek back to Hebrew). It's a good example of how the Jews interpretated the Hebrew text back then may have had an influence on the way they translated the Hebrew text to Greek. That's a very interesting read.

    One of those connections in the XXL is about Abraham's act of faith, the Aqeda.
     
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    There is something that amazes me when I read such books.

    Translation issues have always been a concern and a sensitive subject*. Regardless of the scientific context nowadays, there are very old discussions and debates between pagans (or atheists) and Christians that would make you believe that they were written just a few decades ago. Persecuted religions have always claimed that the fact that they were persecuted was a proof that they had God's approval.

    Conclusion : There is nothing new under the sun...

    * Aquila's version is said to have been used in place of the Septuagint in Greek-speaking synagogues. The Christians generally disliked it, alleging that it rendered the Messianic passages incorrectly, but Jerome and Origen speak in its praise. Origen incorporated it in his Hexapla.

    Incorporations from Theodotion In most ancient copies of the Bible which contain the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, the Book of Daniel is not the original Septuagint version, but instead is a copy of Theodotion's translation from the Hebrew, which more closely resembles the Masoretic text. The Septuagint version was discarded in favour of Theodotion's version in the 2nd to 3rd centuries CE. In Greek-speaking areas, this happened near the end of the 2nd century, and in Latin-speaking areas (at least in North Africa), it occurred in the middle of the 3rd century. History does not record the reason for this, and St. Jerome reports, in the preface to the Vulgate version of Daniel, This thing 'just' happened. One of two Old Greek texts of the Book of Daniel has been recently rediscovered and work is ongoing in reconstructing the original form of the book[SUP].[/SUP]
     
  5. Hi Wallflower:

    Although it is true that Abraham did not have the Bible and that he had to depend much on the things unseen, through faith, he did have an asset that we do not have. He was through the line of Shem, through Eber (Luke 3), and Shem was alive well past the time of Abraham's birth. As a matter of fact, Abraham was about 139 when Shem finally died at the age of 600 as we see from Genesis 11:10,11...

    Shem was a hundred years old when he became father to Ar‧pach′shad two years after the deluge.11And after his fathering Ar‧pach′shad Shem continued to live five hundred years. Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters. Genesis 11 This scripture also gives us a clue that tells us that Shem was not Noah's firstborn, but his secondborn son.


    Since the families back then were so patriarichal, it's not a large stretch of the imagination to think that Abraham both knew and spoke to Shem in his (abraham's) younger years. So even though he did not have the Bible, he had a first hand account from an eye witness to the accounts that were no doubt handed down both in written and oral form. That had to be a powerful testimony to these men of faith. Yes, these same stories no doubt fell on "deaf ears" as well, just as they do today when we do have the written accounts in the Bible. We still must be people of strong faith.

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    I took again my book in hand and upon having a look at it, I told to myself... uh? There's something amiss... :p Effectively, it's not XXL but LXX.. lol
     

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