The End Is Here!

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    Completed is the work "The End is Here!" and has now been added to the nav bar for easy access for all.

    Here as well is the direct link: http://joshuastone7.com/
     
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    The End Is Here! website has been refreshed and an 8th chapter has been added. This sister website that can be found in our link bar above no doubt adds to our love of Jehovah and thirst for knowledge.

    May Jehovah's spirit be on our family here, and into the time of the end approaching quickly.
     
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    nice site Josh ...Utuna showed me it a while back .
    (yes I am slow in some areas poor Utuna trying
    to convince me it was there and connected in
    email ...I give him regular challenges I think )
    if I find anything exceptional in timelines I'll
    be sure to let you know ...I still get "lost" in
    them and to be sure the 70 weeks up to the
    Messiah was difficult enough on the 1st round
    of studies I did "when young" enough to convince
    me my gifts are not in that area ... :rolleyes:
     
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    After a short down time, The End Is Here! website and tab at the top of our forum is back up and running after some refresh and rewriting. I invite all to read through it's content once again in order to sharpen our perceptive powers into Jehovah's wonderful books of prophecies.
     
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    I read, "The End is here." God says, "No one knows the date, or the hour." I understand you are dating from the time the first event takes place. it has one problem...Father says he will do the first event in one day. he did not say, "I will do xxxxx in a mans day." That could mean any time within a 1,000 years. A day with God is like a 1,000 years. We could all be long dead before he does the first event.
    A Christian does not service God for a date. It matters not when God does something. A Christian is serving forever, not from date to date.
    Going from date to date is a trap. many who wait fro a date, and nothing happens will turn their back on God. A good date to use is your life span. That is the time you have to serve Father...use every second.
     
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    Domenic, are you here to disrupt the peace? Much of what you say appears to be antagonistic. Are you trying to lure Joshua into a fight, if so, why? Im very suspicious as to what your motives are in being here. In fact...may I ask...exactly why are you here?
     
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    Oh yea? I think the Bible says otherwise;

    What did Noah know before the flood, did he know when it would occur?;

    Gen 6:3 "Then Jehovah said: “My spirit will not tolerate man indefinitely, because he is only flesh. Accordingly, his days will amount to 120 years.â€￾

    How about here?;

    Gen 7:4 "For in just seven days, I will make it rain on the earth for 40 days and 40 nights, and I will wipe from the surface of the ground every living thing that I have made.â€￾

    How about Moses, did he know how long ahead of time before they would enter the promised land? Yep, again it just so happens!;

    Num 14:33 "According to the number of the days that you spied out the land, 40 days, a day for a year, a day for a year, you will answer for your errors 40 years, for you will know what it means to oppose me."

    How about Daniel, did he know when he and the Jews would be allowed to return to Israel? Yep, yep again he knew too ahead of time;

    Dan 9:2 "in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of years mentioned in the word of Jehovah to Jeremiah the prophet to fulfill the desolation of Jerusalem, namely, 70 years."

    Were the Jews aware of what year to expect Jesus to come to the earth in the first century? Wow, yes they were;

    Mth 9:25 "You should know and understand that from the issuing of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Mes·si′ah the Leader, there will be 7 weeks, also 62 weeks."

    Would those in Jerusalem in the first century have warning of what day the city would be destroyed? Yep, just so happens;

    Mth 24:15 “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Ju·de′a begin fleeing to the mountains."

    How about an exact day count to tell them exactly what day the city of Jerusalem would be destroyed? Yep, they had that ahead of time too;

    Dan 12:11 “And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days."

    Should we expect Jehovah has changed? Or are we maybe misunderstanding Mth 24:36 when he says no one knows the day or hour? After all, every single major event on this planet was known by man that it was coming and on what exact day it was to occur.... Hmmm

    How about in the future, would Jehovah also tell his prophets ahead of time how many days to a certain event? Well let's ask Jehovah;

    Amos 3:7 "For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets."

    So let's now address the scripture you quoted. Your right, at the time that scripture was pinned no one knew when the day and hour would be including Jesus. But wait, does Jesus know now? Surely you don't believe Jesus still doesn't know when the day and hour is to occur in the future, do you?

    Regardless of our thoughts on that, let's actually look into your statement;Mth 24:36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

    What is the day and hour? Do you know, or are you just assuming it's the end day? Well it just so happens to be a Jewish holiday in that of Rosh Hashana. You see, two witnesses would stay out at night to observe the new moon, but it could be cloudy, so they allowed two days in order to observe the full moon which is how it got its name the "day no one knows the day or hour".

    Well, as to your assumption that I think I know when that is, I'm not to sure you actually did read my whole website, because you bring up a mood point, for I have never said I knew when the fulfillment of Rosh Hashana would be. It could be three years from now, or it could be a 1000 years from now, (as you colorfully exclaimed).

    So, I have no idea when the end will come, not yet anyway...
     
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    You have said on other post you would be there to help the JW's when the Watch Tower falls? Is that not saying it will happen within your lifetime? I am not trying to cause trouble Josh, but is that not what many have been saying, THE END IS NEAR?
    Our life is like a blade of grass, "Here today, and gone tomorrow." As far as the length of a human life, yes the time is short...but it has proven out, many have said, "The time is near, and they are long dead. I'm sure it is near in Gods time.
     
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    Is peace wroth more than truth? No I am no place to cause disruption. If I do not agree, I state why. If others do not agree with me, they should also state why as josh has done. The Watch Tower has put many out because they do not agree, and the Watch Tower puts unity before truth...they have said this in a court of law. Are you suggestion members on this forum should agree with what they don't agree with just to have unity?
     
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    1Peter 4:7 "But the end of all things has drawn close. Therefore, be sound in mind, and be vigilant with a view to prayers."

    Bible gateway;

    "The end of all things is near. Therefore be alert and of sober mind so that you may pray."
     
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    Romans 16:17 "Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them."
     
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    Josh,
    The scriptures you post in rejection of what I say, does not disprove what I said?
     
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    The Bible's message should be first, not our own opinion. The end is near according to scripture, but your welcome to say whatever you want.

    And as to the other scriptures, if I were to start causing trouble in a congregation they would just remove me, no one would listen.

    Beyond that we all have to answer to Jehovah for our actions.

    In reality I happen to think the opposite of you, that ones who leave and isolate themselves will be drawn out by their own desires. And that in fact the disgusting thing has not been placed so one should not flee.

    You see, it is okay to have an opinion, but I assure you, there are some heavy hitters here who know the Bible well, we are capable of making spiritual decisions for ourselves.
     
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    That sounds like a shadow of how the Watch Tower holds too. Believe our way or we will put you out. They also believe they are teaching the truth. If they were teaching Jehovah’s word correctly, they would not have destruction in their future like you believe. Their members must think, and speak as they do, or keep silent as you do. There is only one heavy hitter, Jehovah. Our God does not tell us to read his word, but to reason on it. Reason means to use logic, seek out the purpose, and dig deep into what he is saying. You are telling me, and others who agree with you that you are a heavy hitter, and I am drawing myself out by my own desire…that I am a disgusting thing because I do not agree with your teaching of scripture. When I stand before a man, face to face, I do not talk around by elbow to get to my thumb…I learned that from Jesus. He called a man by what came out of his mouth. A snake a snake and a fool a fool. I will leave you to yourself made world of teaching those who follow you to just read the scriptures, and not to reason, or dig deeply into them.
     
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    The forum provides an opportunity for brothers/sisters to discuss scripture, scriptural meanings and understandings, etc. Not everyone here holds the same viewpoint as to how they understand a scripture. So there is opportunity to break those subjects down and examine a scripture or topic.

    There are going to be times where brothers/sisters do not agree with each other's viewpoint. On those occasions, they may have to agree to disagree.
     
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    You call yourself a writer, but half what you write is ill structured, but most important you fail to understand what you read. Your word comprehension and understanding in sentence structure is lacking.

    The disgusting thing = Rome

    Nothing to do with you. If you can't understand what is expressed, feel free to get back to the milk.

    You have failed on a number of occasions to recognize basic scriptural references, such as the disgusting thing and constant feature, which you clearly have no understanding of, yet your vocal and defensive. I don't see the love in your address yet, and I've been hoping you would settle in, but if not there is no reason for your presence here.
     
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    Sir,
    I have disagreed with your interpretation of scripture, and have only quoted what you have said of yourself. I have made no personal attack on you. Your above post is a personal attack on me. As an administrator, it is you who are to prevent personal attacks. Your action is akin to your secret life as a baptized Jehovah’s Wittiness. You keep secret from the members, and Elders of your congregation that you believe the prophesies made by the governing body are false, and that the Watch Tower will fall. Either one of these, if known by your Elders would put you out. You pretend to be a JW in Good standing with the members of your congregation, but that is just a mask. You who stand behind the mask are a fake. I agree the governing body has only made prophesies that have not come true, and that the Watch Tower org will fall, but I do not stand with them, and pretend to be one of them. I find your personal attack on me, and your deceit with your congregation detestable. If you believe Jehovah is standing behind you, you should look over your shoulder and see if he is still there.
     
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    Just curious, why are you fixated on me, how does what I do effect you? You continue to give me your suggestions on what I should do spiritually, and I don't care what you think. Don't you worry your little head about what I do, your constant bantering is getting old.
     
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    id like to back up the scripture that josh has given here...as it really is very serious...it's good to be tolerant ...but not when it comes to subverting the scriptures....

    GALATIONS 6:6
    I marvel that you are turning away so soon from him who called you into the grace of Christ to a DIFFERENT gospel.

    6:7 which there is not another,but there are some who trouble you and want to PERVERT gospel of Christ

    8: but even if we or a angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you that WHAT WE HAVE PREACHED to you then let him be ACCURSED

    9: as we have said before, so now I say AGAIN, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received , LET HIM BE ACCURSED.

    Now I ask why in the hades would we want to give ear to ANYONE that is accursed by not taking the above seriously......Jehovah knew and has warned us we would be infiltrated in the time of the end by false brothers......

    it is not enough to say let's agree to disagree.....not when we are talking about the good news...when the teachings get so distorted that the news of the good news is changed from white to black.....then we are in serious trouble ....those scriptures are not in there for padding.....they are a warning to us and our very lives may depend on taking them seriously.

    sorry for my rave...but this is serious stuff...

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    "“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves." - Mat. 10:16

    Yeah, let's be knuckle-dragging bigots of the truth ! I can't wait to suffer for the sake of the truth ! Let's be kamikazes too ! Yee haw ! It's so cool to be a martyr ! Let's speak out, better my nonsense than the GB's in Jehovah's eyes ! He'll understand, for sure ! Let's get disfellowshipped, DAed, DBed, DCed, DDed and all the alphabet like that ! We must suffer for the sake of the truth ! Let's wear hair shirts and cilices ! Please, slap me nice and hard so Jehovah knows that I'm not a wimp regarding the truth ! Well, ok, we don't know what the truth is but it doesn't matter, who cares ? We just know what it is not and it suffices more than enough for us to want to sacrifice everything for it ! Let the JWs die because they are misled by the GB, let everyone else die because they don't believe in the GB's teaching, let all humans die for the sake of truth ! Yahoo !!!!!

    What a wonderful world.... and what a bore !
     

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