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    A Little of a Charles Taze Russell’s writings....and tho at times he leaves me slightly perplexed and scratching my head...at other times one would think he was living today and reporting on daily events
    Each must take away what they believe to be truth or leave it,,,
    Previous to this he was explaining the army of Joel...which is a worldly army that God would use or commandeer to fulfill his purpose...( not men of faith )

    THE CONDITIONS OF THIS BATTLE UNPRECEDENTED

    According to the predictions of the prophets the conditions of this battle will be without historic precedent. As already suggested, this final struggle is graphically portrayed in symbols in the forty-sixth Psalm. (Compare also Psa. 97:2-6; Isa. 24:19-21; 2 Pet. 3:10.) The hills (the less high, less autocratic governments) are already melting like wax; they still retain their form, but as the earth (society) gets hot they yield to its requirements, little by little coming down to the level of popular demand.—Great Britain is a good illustration of this class. High mountains (representing autocratic governments) will be “shaken” by revolutions, and ultimately “carried into the midst of the sea”—lost utterly in anarchy. Already “the sea and the waves roar” against the bulwarks of the present social system: ere long the earth (the present social structure) will reel and totter as a drunken man, vainly endeavoring to right itself, maintain a footing and re-establish itself: by and by it will be utterly “removed,” to give place to the “new earth” (the new social order) wherein righteousness, justice, will prevail.

    It will be impossible to re-establish the present order, (1) because it has evidently outlived its usefulness, and is inequitable under present conditions; (2) because of the general diffusion of secular knowledge; (3) because the discovery that priestcraft has long blinded and fettered the masses with error and fear will lead to a general disrespect for all religious claims and teachings as of a piece with the discovered frauds; (4) because religious people in general, not discerning that God’s time has come for a change of dispensation, will ignore reason, logic, justice and Scripture in defending the present order of things.

    It will be of little consequence then that the ecclesiastical heavens (the religious powers, Papal and Protestant) will have rolled together as a scroll. (Isa. 34:4; Rev. 6:14) The combined religious power of Christendom will be utterly futile against the rising tide of anarchy when the dread crisis is age reached. Before that great army “all the host of heaven [the church nominal] shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll [the two great bodies which constitute the ecclesiastical heavens; viz., Papacy and Protestantism, as the two distinct ends of the scroll are even now rapidly approaching each other, rolling together, as we have shown]; and all their host shall fall down [fall off, drop out; not all at once, but gradually, yet rapidly] as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree” (Isa. 34:4); and finally these “heavens, being on fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements [of which they are composed] shall melt with fervent heat.”—2 Pet. 3:12

    “While they be folden together as thorns [for Protestantism and the Papacy can never perfectly assimilate; each will be a thorn in the other’s side], and while they are drunken as drunkards [intoxicated with the spirit of the world], they shall be devoured [they shall be overwhelmed in the great tribulation, and, as religious systems, be utterly destroyed] as stubble fully dry”; for the Lord “will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time.” Blessed promise! “For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven: and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch [for further development].”—Nahum 1:9,10; Mal. 4:1
     
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    Something to look forward to,.....


    The earthly phase of the Kingdom of God when set up will be Israelitish; for such is God’s engagement or covenant with Abraham and his natural seed. Even the chief favor, the spiritual Kingdom, was offered first to fleshly Israel, and would have been given to them if they had been ready at heart to receive it on the conditions attached to it,—to suffer with Christ and afterward to be glorified with him. (Rom. 8:17) Israel indeed desired and sought the best God had to give; but “Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for: but the election [the “little flock” selected from both Jews and Gentiles] hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded;—not forever, but until the election of the spiritual seed, the Kingdom proper, is completed.—Rom. 9:31-33; 11:7,23,25-32

    While Israelites in various stages of unbelief will be gathered back to Palestine under divine favor, according to promise, yet none shall be in any degree reckoned as a part, or even as supporters of, or associated with the earthly phase of the Kingdom, except as they shall first recognize Christ Jesus as the Son of God, the only Redeemer and Deliverer for Israel and the world.
    will, we understand, consist wholly of the resurrected holy ones of olden time,—from John the Baptizer back to Abel;—“Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all the holy prophets.” (Compare Matt. 11:11; Luke 13:28; Heb. 11:39,40.) While these ancient worthies will have neither part nor lot in the spiritual Kingdom, because not “called” thereto, that high or “heavenly calling” not being possible until after the ransom had been paid by our Lord Jesus, yet they will occupy a position of preferment above the world, having attested their faith and love during the reign of evil, in a manner approved of God. Thus they were prepared and proved worthy to be the earthly ministers and representatives of the spiritual Kingdom. In harmony with this it is written in the Psalms, as addressed to the Christ,—“Instead of [being longer considered] thy fathers [they] shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes [chief ones, captains] in all the earth.”—Psa. 45:16

    These ancient worthies will be unlike the remainder of mankind, not alone in the fact that their trial is past while the trial of the world in general will just be beginning; but they will be unlike them also in the fact that they will have attained the reward of their faithfulness—they will be perfect men, having completely restored to them all that was lost in Adam of mental and moral likeness to God, and perfection of physical powers. Thus they will not only be the “princes” or chiefs of earth (the earthly representatives of the Heavenly Kingdom—Christ and his Church), but they, individually, will be representatives of what all the willingly obedient may attain to under the New Covenant.

    When Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all the ancient worthies have been resurrected, and shall appear amongst the regathered Israelites, about the close of the time of Jacob’s final trouble with Gog and Magog, their superior mental powers will speedily distinguish them from others. Moreover, their perfect minds will quickly grasp present-day knowledge and inventions; and they will be peculiar in many ways, as was the man Christ Jesus, of whom the people said,—How knoweth this man literary matters, having never learned? (John 7:15) And as Jesus taught the people positively, definitely, clearly, and not doubtfully and in a confused way, as did the scribes, so it will be with the perfected ancient worthies, when they appear amongst men. Besides, these worthies, “princes,” will have direct communion with the spiritual Kingdom (Christ and the Church) as our Lord had with the angels, and as Adam enjoyed similar personal communion before he came under divine sentence as a transgressor. These “princes” of the new earth (the new order of society) will be fully qualified for the honorable position assigned to them.

    Thus we see that when God’s time for the inauguration of his Kingdom among men shall arrive, his agents will all be amply ready for the service; and their master-strokes of wise policy, their moderation and dignified self-control, and their personal exemplification of every grace and virtue will attract men and quickly enlist them—chastened under the great tribulation—in active cooperation. Even before the disclosure of their identity, doubtless the people of Israel will have remarked their pre-eminence over other men.

    Furthermore, let us remember that the very design of the great time of trouble, now nearing a culmination, is to break the stony hearts of the whole world, to bow down into the dust the proud, and break up the fallow ground with deep furrows of pain, trouble, sorrow, thus to make the world ready for the great blessings of the Millennial Kingdom. And it will serve its intended purpose: as the Prophet declares, “When thy judgments [Lord] are [abroad] in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.” (Isa. 26:9) By that time all will have learned that selfish schemes and all schemes that can be devised and carried out by fallen men are defective, and lead only to various degrees of trouble and confusion. And all will by that time be longing for, but despairing of, a reign of righteousness;—little realizing how near at hand it is.
     
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    I’m not sure if anyone here has watched the documentary titled: “The Social Dilemma”. It is right on target to all that is going on in the world, and what the outcome may be. If you have Netflix, I suggest you watch it. I watched it and had quite a few OMG moments. It’s everything I have believed to be true about the Internet. I give it 5 out of 5 stars. If you don’t have Netflix, there are several other choices on the web.

    As I have said before: Check it out. Also check out the critics. Both sides have their own theories.

     
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    Here is another excellent talk by Kenneth Stewart...he doesn’t pull any punches with it...Gulp Gulp.:confused::confused:.overlook the hellfire and sabbath bit....he just brings it all to life...fortunately he ended the talk with one of hope and mercy..and there is an important lesson in this talk,,,it’s about me,,you..everyone,,and Mannesseh..and the mercy extended to him for his religious sins.... very interesting

     
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    Note what he said...” WE are at a frightening moment in history”

     
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    Just use Psalm 71. The whole Psalm applies.
     
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    Psalm 71
    The Message

    71 1-3 I run for dear life to God,
    I’ll never live to regret it.
    Do what you do so well:
    get me out of this mess and up on my feet.
    Put your ear to the ground and listen,
    give me space for salvation.
    Be a guest room where I can retreat;
    you said your door was always open!
    You’re my salvation—my vast, granite fortress.

    4-7 My God, free me from the grip of Wicked,
    from the clutch of Bad and Bully.
    You keep me going when times are tough—
    my bedrock, God, since my childhood.
    I’ve hung on you from the day of my birth,
    the day you took me from the cradle;
    I’ll never run out of praise.
    Many gasp in alarm when they see me,
    but you take me in stride.

    8-11 Just as each day brims with your beauty,
    my mouth brims with praise.
    But don’t turn me out to pasture when I’m old
    or put me on the shelf when I can’t pull my weight.
    My enemies are talking behind my back,
    watching for their chance to knife me.
    The gossip is: “God has abandoned him.
    Pounce on him now; no one will help him.”

    12-16 God, don’t just watch from the sidelines.
    Come on! Run to my side!
    My accusers—make them lose face.
    Those out to get me—make them look
    Like idiots, while I stretch out, reaching for you,
    and daily add praise to praise.
    I’ll write the book on your righteousness,
    talk up your salvation the livelong day,
    never run out of good things to write or say.
    I come in the power of the Lord God,
    I post signs marking his right-of-way.

    17-24 You got me when I was an unformed youth,
    God, and taught me everything I know.
    Now I’m telling the world your wonders;
    I’ll keep at it until I’m old and gray.
    God, don’t walk off and leave me
    until I get out the news
    Of your strong right arm to this world,
    news of your power to the world yet to come,
    Your famous and righteous
    ways, O God.
    God, you’ve done it all!
    Who is quite like you?
    You, who made me stare trouble in the face,
    Turn me around;
    Now let me look life in the face.
    I’ve been to the bottom;
    Bring me up, streaming with honors;
    turn to me, be tender to me,
    And I’ll take up the lute and thank you
    to the tune of your faithfulness, God.
    I’ll make music for you on a harp,
    Holy One of Israel.
    When I open up in song to you,
    I let out lungsful of praise,
    my rescued life a song.
    All day long I’m chanting
    about you and your righteous ways,
    While those who tried to do me in
    slink off looking ashamed.
     
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    This is already happening in AUSTRALIA VICTORIA ...the last two paragraphs Are not happening YET....( money usually wins the argument unless it’s driven by satanic entities)
    I remember at our assembly two years ago....or is it three?..a brother from Bethel stated to expect the unexpected and don’t think that what is happening in Russia won’t happen here....
    All this may settle down...maybe its a trial run For future events....and maybye it won’t.... .but it sure is a warning for all those who follow Jehovah.....I feel like I’m living in a twilight zone...
    This article comes from Bitter Winters...it’s three months old....very eerie how close we are to it now...

    Hong Kong Law, Article 43 Implementation Rules: The CCP Ends Freedom of the Internet


    07/07/2020MASSIMO INTROVIGNE |

    It gets worse every day: a new document allows the police to enter private premises without a warrant, freeze assets, and crack down on criticism posted online
    by Massimo Introvigne

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    Zheng Yanxiong, the hard-liner CCP officer appointed as head of the all-powerful Office for Safeguarding National Security in Hong Kong (from Twitter)
    On July 6, 2020, the newly established Committee for Safeguarding the National Security of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (香港特別行政區維護國家安全委員會) published the Implementation Rules to interpret Article 43, a key provision of the new Hong National Security Law.

    Perhaps not coincidentally, on the same July 6 Chinese and Hong Kong media revealed that the CCP has set up a new task force against “threats to political security,” aimed at “hitting hard” at “subversive activities, terrorist acts, ethnic secession and religious extremism” (note the reference to “religious extremism”), and at “safeguarding the integrity of China’s political system,” i.e. the power of the same CCP.

    Some days before, the CCP appointed Zheng Yanxiong as the head of the Office for Safeguarding National Security (香港特別行政區維護國家安全公署), the most powerful new agency to crack down on dissent in Hong Kong. Zheng is regarded as a hard-liner, who became famous in 2011 for his brutal repression of protests in the village of Wukan, Guangdong, against the seizure of land sold to developers and corruption. Zheng, who was the local CCP secretary, justified the repression by accusing the villagers of colluding with “rotten foreign media organizations” that were trying to destroy Socialism in China

    The publication of the Implementation Rules confirms that the CCP wants to move very quickly, and enable the police to take exceptional measures to repress dissent in Hong Kong. Paragraph 1 of the Implementation Rules states that, “in urgent situations, a police officer not below the rank of Assistant Commissioner of Police may authorize his officers to enter the relevant place to search for evidence without a warrant.”

    Paragraph 2 allows to confiscate passports of persons suspected of offenses against national security, “lest some of the persons involved in the case abscond overseas.” Paragraph 3 allows for freezing, confiscating, and disposing of properties and assets of those endangering national security. Paragraph 6 gives large powers to the police for covert operations, surveillance, and wiretapping in national security cases.

    Of particular interest is Paragraph 4. It states that, when “an electronic message published on an electronic platform is likely to constitute an offence endangering national security or is likely to cause the occurrence of an offence endangering national security,” the police may ask the service provider to delete the message. The police may also request the service provider “to provide the identification record or decryption assistance,” in order to identify the person who posted the offending message. According to Paragraph 7, if the service provider refuses to comply, it should pay a fine of HK $ 100,000 and its managers will be arrested.

    Facebook, Google, and Twitter are blocked in Mainland China, but not in Hong Kong. Facebook, Twitter, and Google announced on July 6 that they will not comply with requests to share information on users with the authorities. However, they emphasized that this is a provisional decision, “pending further assessment.” Social media companies try to avoid criticism that they do not care about human rights. On the other hand, Hong Kong is where Mainland China companies deal with them and buy expensive ads for the international markets. Whether conscience or money will prevail, time will tell.
     
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    Very interesting comment at 35 min....main point at 37 min mark...

     
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    Just what and who does Egypt represent today...considering the civil unrest all over the world



    Bible Verses about Egypt as Type of the World

    • Exodus 3:7-9
      And the LORD said: "I have surely seen the oppression of My people who are in Egypt, and have heard their cry because of their taskmasters, for I know their sorrows. So I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up from that land to a good and large land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites and the Hittites and the Amorites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites. Now therefore, behold, the cry of the children of Israel has come to Me, and I have also seen the oppression with which the Egyptians oppress them.
    • Exodus 6:5-7
      And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel whom the Egyptians keep in bondage, and I have remembered My covenant. Therefore say to the children of Israel: "I amthe LORD; I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, I will rescue you from their bondage, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with great judgments. I will take you as My people, and I will be your God. Then you shall know that I am the LORDyour God who brings you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians.
    • Exodus 12:40-42
      Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egyptwas four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years—on that very same day—it came to pass that all the armies of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt. It is a night of solemn observance to the LORD for bringing them out of the land of Egypt. This is that night of the LORD, a solemn observance for all the children of Israel throughout their generations.
    • Exodus 12:31-33
      Then he called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, "Rise, go out from among my people, both you and the children of Israel. And go, serve the LORD as you have said. Also take your flocks and your herds, as you have said, and be gone; and bless me also." And the Egyptians urged the people, that they might send them out of the land in haste. For they said, "We shall all be dead."
    • Exodus 13:3
      And Moses said to the people: “Remember this day in which you went out of Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out of this place. No leavened bread shall be eaten.
    • Exodus 13:7-9
      Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days. And no leavened bread shall be seen among you, nor shall leaven be seen among you in all your quarters. And you shall tell your son in that day, saying, ‘This is done because of what the LORD did for me when I came up from Egypt.’ It shall be as a sign to you on your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that the LORD’s law may be in your mouth; for with a strong hand the LORD has brought you out of Egypt.
    • Exodus 13:14
      So it shall be, when your son asks you in time to come, saying, "What is this?" that you shall say to him, "By strength of hand the LORD brought us out of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
    • Matthew 2:15
      and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, “Out of Egypt I called My Son.”
    • Revelation 11:8
      And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
     
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    Egypt a Type of the World
    J. M. Gibson, D. D.
    Exodus 1:1-5
    Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.…
    Sodom is associated in our minds with wickedness only, though no doubt it was a great place in its day; but Egypt stands out before us as a fuller and more adequate type of the world, with her glory as well as her shame. And from Israel's relation to Egypt we may learn two great lessons: one of counsel how to use the world, the other of warning against abusing it. From God's purpose in regard to Israel let us learn that just as Egypt was necessary as a school for His chosen people, so the world ought to be a school for us. We are not to despise its greatness. No word of contempt for Egypt's greatness is found in the sacred records. The nation was intended to learn, and did acquire, many useful arts which were of much service to them afterwards in the Land of Promise. Moses, the chosen of God, was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was thereby qualified for the great work for which he was called. In these examples we may see how to use this world, making it a school to prepare us for our inheritance and the work the Lord may have for us there to do. On the other hand, let us beware of so yielding to the seductions of this evil world as to lose our hold of God, and His covenant, and so incur the certainty of forfeiting our eternal birthright and becoming the world's slaves, helping perhaps to rear its mighty monuments, with the prospect possibly of having our names engraved in stone among the ruins of some buried city, but without the prospect of having them written "among the living in Jerusalem," the eternal city of God. Earth's great ones belong to the dead past; but heaven's great ones have their portion in a glorious future.

    (J. M. Gibson, D. D.)
     
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    Taken from Biblical Comments 1879-1960

    Isaiah 18:7
    In that time.....( the time when the message of the swift messages goes forth)
    Shall the present....(the holy nation bought as a present to Jehovah)
    The Mount Zion ...( The heavenly kingdom )
    19:2
    Set the Egyptians ...( the opponents of Gods people)
    Against his neighbour.....( selfishness gone to seed will ring forth anarchy at the close of this age. The bond of human sympathy and brotherhood will be utterly snapped in riotous selfishness
    19:21
    Known to Egypt ....( the world )
    In that day ...( In the Millennial Day at the close of the time of trouble )
    19:22
    Shall smite Egypt ....( the world in the great time of trouble just at hand )
    Shall heal them...( he wounds to heal)
    19:24
    In that day ....( In the future, Prophecy is more to be understood after it is fulfilled )
    ( written in 1906)..they shall we waked in Due time , the times of Restitution of all things )
    Israel, Egypt Assyria .....( In What way Israel is going to be one with these others in the future is not very clear yet)
    30:30
    And tempest....(this day of vengeance)
    30:33
    Tophet....( valley of himan symbol of second death)
    King ....(the devil with his messengers those in sympathy with evil
    Fire and much wood....(a type of the real Gehenna unquenchable until it’s work is done, plenty of fuel to accomplish its complete destruction )
    31:1
    Go down to Egypt...( the world )
    For help.....( for worldly ideas and plans and for council as to how they should act in the crisis of this great day)
    And stay on horses......( who endeavour to still ride the old false doctrinal hobbies )
    Trust in chariots.....(worldly organisations)
    And in horseman.....( the great leaders in false doctrine )
    Seek the Lord......( with whom alone is safety and victory in the time of trouble)


    Keep in mind Russel was coming out of BTG...and into the Reformation movement.
    He still had a lot of baggage from that ....( pyramid and certain chronology) but his view on Egypt is backed by nearly every other faith....it’s not a belief belonging only to Jehovah’s Witnesses....currently so many lands across the world are rising up against their own Governments..thus brother against brother...anarchy and civil wars etc...
    It appears to be the Iron and clay not mixing....
    But who can really know until it all is finally done?

    Off course everyone must make up their own minds on such things...
     
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    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” ( Joh 8:44 NAS )

    You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” ( Joh 8:44 NIV )

    President Donald J. Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims. Trump hit the milestone on 9 July, a day on which he delivered 62 such claims.

    Jul 13, 2020 — In just 14 months, President Trump doubled the number of claims he made in the first 27 months of his presidency. ( Washington Post says Trump hit the milestone on 9 July 2020)
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims

    The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, ‘I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. If you worship me, it will all be yours.’” ( Lu 4:5-7 NIV )

    And leading Him up into a high mountain, the Devil showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the Devil said to Him, ‘I will give all this authority and their glory to You, because it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Then if You worship before me, all will be Yours.’” ( Joh 4:5-7 LITV )

    But!! What about the written word that says: “Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.” ( Ro 13:1 NAS ) And, “Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience' sake.” ( Ro 13:5 NAS ) What about those commands? Let us look at the Greek word which is translated as “subjection”. It is hupotasso ( hoop-ot-as’-so ).

    1. to arrange under, to subordinate
    2. to subject, put in subjection
    3. to subject one's self, obey
    4. to submit to one's control
    5. to yield to one's admonition or advice
    6. to obey, be subject
    A Greek military term meaning “to arrange [troop divisions] in a military fashion under the command of a leader”. In non-military use,it was “a voluntary attitude of giving in, cooperating, assuming responsibility, and carrying a burden”.

    You will notice that it is a command to be “in subjection”. It does not say “be a part of”. That would be contrary to what is written, “We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.” ( 1 Jo 5:19 NKJV )
     
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    Proverbs 16:4
    Jehovah has made everything work for his purpose Even the wicked for the day of disaster.

    The battle between Sennacharib and Hezekiah
    Message Bible 1Kings 19-25-28

    Did it never occur to you
    That I’m behind all this?
    Long long ago I drew up the plans
    And now Ive gone into action
    Using you as a doomsday weapon
    Reducing proud cities to piles of rubble,
    Leaving their people dispirited
    Slumped shoulders, limp souls
    Useless as weeds fragile as grass
    Insubstantial as wind blown chaff.
    I know when you sit down, when you come
    And when you go
    And yes I’ve marked everyone
    Of your temper tantrums against me.
    Its because of your temper
    that I’m putting my hook in your nose
    And my bit in your mouth
    And turning you back
    To where you came from

    ( Sennacherib =Type of Satan......Hezekiah = Gods people/ earthly representatives of him/ thus Jehovah)
     
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    You had me going crazy. It was 1 Kings, not 2 Kings. The message was great. I can use that for a friend of mine.
    She is one of those who can't understand how Jehovah can allow bad things happen. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hahahah...sorry.....it’s so frustrating when some one sites a really good scripture and Then gives you the wrong scripture ....thanks for the correction..as I cannot go back and edit it,,,...but they really are great scriptures....it took me ages to refind that one in 2 Kings...have you watched the Hezekiah video on the Orgs site...I really recommend that along with these scriptures...you will love it...and it backs up Russell’s original understanding of Joel and the locusts...as does The Proverbs one....Im still tending to think the locust in Revelation is the same as Joel’s...the society is still saying it is us????.Russell correlates the locusts with the same Locusts At Rev...and Joel as one and the same....I think he’s right...
    lol....I had a good laugh at your post...
     

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