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    The first few minutes of this is what's interesting


     
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    Yes that shows what is going to happen. Bible prophecy is fullfilling. The beast (UN) Babylon the Great rides will go down in to the abyss. And only after the 1260 days it will come back. Only then they will say peace and security.
     
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    Either that or trump is going to give them the teeth to act out and turn on BTG .....time will tell...
     
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    MESSAGE BIBLE,
    AMOS 5

    13 Justice is a lost cause. Evil is epidemic.
    Decent people throw up their hands.
    Protest and rebuke are useless,
    a waste of breath.
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    e to Face Hard Reality, Not Fantasy
    18-20 Woe to all of you who want God’s Judgment Day!
    Why would you want to see God, want him to come?
    When God comes, it will be bad news before it’s good news,
    the worst of times, not the best of times.
    Here’s what it’s like: A man runs from a lion
    right into the jaws of a bear.
    A woman goes home after a hard day’s work
    and is raped by a neighbor.
    At God’s coming we face hard reality, not fantasy—
    a black cloud with no silver lining.

    21-24 “I can’t stand your religious meetings.
    I’m fed up with your conferences and conventions.
    I want nothing to do with your religion projects,
    your pretentious slogans and goals.
    I’m sick of your fund-raising schemes,
    your public relations and image making.
    I’ve had all I can take of your noisy ego-music.
    When was the last time you sang to me?
    Do you know what I want?
    I want justice—oceans of it.
    I want fairness—rivers of it.
    That’s what I want. That’s all I want.
     
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    Before/ After

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    Perservering at meetings or even some of them if at all possible ..is like being in training for the final testing ....so very hard..tiring and exhausting ...fustrating ....but it will pay off in the end....this pic amd scripture says it all ....it's one that really helped me In going back....
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    A boy wanted a dog. So he asks his father, "Can I have a dog, Dad? "
    His dad looks at him, smiles, pats his head and says, "Let me think about it."
    A few days later, the boy again asks, "Dad, can I have a dog? I'll feed it and take care of it..."
    His dad starts to think, 'Maybe he's serious. I'll have to think more about this.'
    The little boy persists in his request over the next few weeks.
    One day the man hears a lot of noise coming from the basement. So he goes down to see what is going on. He finds his son busily pounding nails into some boards. "What are you doing?" he asks. "I'm making a house for my new dog," the boy replies.
    Moved by the boys persistence and expectant attitude, the man bought his son a dog.
    It is similar with our prayers to God today. We may not get the things we ask for at the time that we ask for them. If we persist in prayer, and 'keep on asking', we can be sure that our Best Friend, Jehovah, will hear our prayer, provided that it is in harmony with his righteous ways and principles.
     
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    IMG_3532.JPG The Chosen Vessel


    The Master was searching for a vessel to use;
    On the shelf there were many - which one would He choose?
    Take me, cried the gold one, I'm shiny and bright,
    I'm of great value and I do things just right.
    My beauty and luster will outshine the rest
    And for someone like You, Master, gold would be the best!

    The Master passed on with no word at all;
    He looked at a silver urn, narrow and tall;
    I'll serve You, dear Master, I'll pour out Your wine
    And I'll be at Your table whenever You dine,
    My lines are so graceful, my carvings so true,
    And my silver will always compliment You.

    Unheeding the Master passed on to the brass,
    It was widemouthed and shallow, and polished like glass.
    Here! Here! cried the vessel, I know I will do,
    Place me on Your table for all men to view.

    Look at me, called the goblet of crystal so clear,
    My transparency shows my contents so dear,
    Though fragile am I, I will serve You with pride,
    And I'm sure I'll be happy in Your house to abide.

    The Master came next to a vessel of wood,
    Polished and carved, it solidly stood.
    You may use me, dear Master, the wooden bowl said,
    But I'd rather You used me for fruit, not for bread!

    Then the Master looked down and saw a vessel of clay.
    Empty and broken it helplessly lay.
    No hope had the vessel that the Master might choose,
    To cleanse and make whole, to fill and to use.

    Ah! This is the vessel I've been hoping to find,
    I will mend and use it and make it all Mine.
    I need not the vessel with pride of its self;
    Nor the one who is narrow to sit on the shelf;
    Nor the one who is bigmouthed and shallow and loud;
    Nor one who displays his contents so proud;
    Not the one who thinks he can do all things just right;
    But this plain earthy vessel filled with My power and might.

    Then gently He lifted the vessel of clay.
    Mended and cleansed it and filled it that day.
    Spoke to it kindly. There's work you must do,
    Just pour out to others as I pour into you.
     
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    I love this, Thinking! Thank you for sharing!
     
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    Young brothers Getting ready to start a bible study in a cave in Lebanon... IMG_3553.JPG
     
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    “Keep On Encouraging One Another Each Day”

    “If you have any word of encouragement for the people, tell it.”—ACTS 13:15.
     
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    I won't lie and say my heart didn't take a little leap when I read this and said a little swear word in shock..just a little one tho...

    The brothers at our special talk warned us not to think we are a little safer just because we are in Australia...( of no significance in world power )... and that things could and may change overnight here and be prepared for it all to look hopeless...utterly hopeless...they were actually talking of the Russian situation.

    Well if I or wall flower disappear of this site you will know why...gulp gulp...
    I have no idea why my print is so bold and large. It just did it on its own ??

    If there ever was a hit I would imagine it would hit Darwin as we have many US stationed there ...but who knows..he may just hit anywhere to make a point...
    In the Second World War when Darwin was attacked by Japan...the US did not come to Australia's defense as they said we were expendable .....oh well all these things must take place before the end ...

    North Korea threatens nuclear strike against Australia if it doesn't stop 'blindly toeing US line'

    Exclusive by defence reporter Andrew Greene
    Updated 16 minutes ago

    [​IMG]PHOTO: The comments came after Julie Bishop said Australia supported the US stance on the regime. (Twitter: Julie Bishop)
    RELATED STORY: Pence, Turnbull present united front on Korea following Sydney talks
    RELATED STORY: Bishop warns North Korea missiles could reach Australia
    MAP: Australiaa "serious threat" to Australiaunless it was stopped by the international community.

    A spokesman for the North Korean Foreign Ministry accused Australia of "spouting a string of rubbish" about the isolated regime, and warned against following the US.

    "The present Government of Australia is blindly and zealously toeing the US line," the spokesman said.

    "If Australia persists in following the US' moves to isolate and stifle North Korea … this will be a suicidal act of coming within the range of the nuclear strike of the strategic force of North Korea."

    The North Korean Foreign Ministry also directly addressed Ms Bishop's interview, warning she had "better think twice about the consequences to be entailed by her reckless tongue-lashing before flattering the US".

    "What she uttered can never be pardoned," the spokesman said.

    "It is hard to expect good words from the Foreign Minister of such a government. But if she is the Foreign Minister of a country, she should speak with elementary common sense about the essence of the situation."

    In response to the comments, Ms Bishop said Pyongyang's threat "underlines the need for the regime to abandon its illegal nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs".

    "These present a grave threat to its neighbours, and if left unchecked, to the broader region including Australia," she said.

    "The North Korean Government should invest in the welfare of its long-suffering citizens, rather than weapons of mass destruction."

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    VIDEO: Pyongyang puts on show of force as Trump hardens North Korea rhetoric (ABC News)
    Pence, after talks with PM, said US would 'deal' with North Korea
    The comments coincided with a visit to Australia by US Vice-President Mike Pence, who continued to condemn Pyongyang's weapons program at a time of heightened tension between the regions.

    N Korean nuke could hit US
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    North Korea could have a 10-kiloton weapon capable of striking the US west coast and killing 100,000 people within four years, according to a former CIA officer.
    Mr Pence also thanked Australia for calling on China to exert greater economic and diplomatic pressure on North Korea.

    "As President Trump made clear a few days ago, if China is unable to deal with North Korea, the United States and our allies will," he said, following a meeting with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

    "Mr Prime Minister, know that President Trump and I are truly grateful to you for calling on China even this week to play an even more active and constructive role in addressing the North Korean threat."

    Mr Pence would not rule out the use of military force in North Korea, repeating "all options are on the table", but stressed the US was focused on diplomacy at this stage.

    North Korea's not 'unpredictable'
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    Countless analysts and government officials have described North Korea as "unpredictable", Stan Grant writes, but in truth the Kim regime is anything but.
    Mr Turnbull meanwhile said it was "self-evident" China had the capacity to bring more pressure to bear on North Korea.

    But he brushed off questions about whether Australia would join any military strike on the regime in the future.

    "At this stage, the support we are providing is at the level of diplomacy [and] is of critical importance," Mr Turnbull said.

    "We are quietly confident, I would say, that China will step up to this challenge and responsibility.

    "China has a leverage, an ability to influence North Korea that far exceeds any others.

    "As I said earlier this week, the eyes of the world are on Beijing. We seek leadership from China to join the leadership shown by the US and Japan and Australia and other nations around the world committed to peace."
     
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    This man is not a brother ....but he did a write up concerning the condition now in Russia. Which I'll post next
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    This is the article he wrote...to my knowledge he is not a brother...as far as I can find out at this point....
    Notice it appears as it is not just JWs hunted down but other faiths as well..


    On April 20, Hitler's birthday, Russia became the first European country to ban the religious confession of Jehovah's Witnesses. Hitler also tried to do it, it did not happen. A little later, Stalin tried - with a similar result. According to the decision of the Supreme Court, for the first time since 1918 in Russia the property of an entire religious confession on the national scale will be confiscated - hundreds of buildings built on voluntary donations from the believers themselves. Confiscation is an important point of the Ministry of Justice's statement of claim. People do not ask money from the state, they build prayer houses at their own expense, and the state selects them because they do not like the way they pray.

    The police, the FSB, as well as an endless number of vandals and youngsters of all stripes - all go out hunting for believers, women, children, grandmothers
    The cynicism of the situation simply can not be comprehended. Even before the court's decision, the police and FSB throughout the country conducted raids on prayer houses, searched the believers, described their passports, photographed, issued warnings about criminal liability for "extremist" activities. I would like to stress once again: it started before the court's decision. Now, when it is announced, the hunting season officially begins all over the country.

    The police, the FSB, as well as an endless number of vandals and youngsters of all stripes - all go out hunting for believers, women, children, grandmothers. In Chelyabinsk, the police have already dispersed the meetings of the deaf and dumb. In Taganrog, believers have already received criminal sentences for reading the Bible. Vandals already beat glasses and even threw grenades into church buildings. All this has already happened, and all this will intensify many times.

    We are on the verge of a massive religious genocide with unpredictable consequences. "Now the planting will start, as the confession is" liquidated, "but Jehovah's Witnesses will not refuse to believe," lawyer Anatoly Pchelintsev rightly points out. Indeed, faith can not be forbidden by the stroke of a pen. As a result, the country will simply receive 175,000 prisoners of conscience. According to Pchelintsev, some will emigrate, some will go underground. Those who can not do either, will be planted.

    The only basis for the ban is the controversial language, in the plaintiff's opinion, in the literature and interpretation of the Bible
    Surprisingly, most journalists and almost 100% of the public do not understand the reasons for this process, nor its consequences. The situation is understood as follows: a) "Jehovah's Witnesses" is a dangerous sect that commits socially dangerous acts; B) when they are banned, they will cease to commit these acts.

    "The end of the world for Jehovah's Witnesses," - naively writes RT. In reality, however, the situation is as follows: a) the only grounds for banning "Jehovah's Witnesses" is "extremist", that is, incorrect, literature. No other harmful acts of speech were heard at the trial, except for questions of blood transfusion, but even in this matter the Ministry of Justice could not provide any evidence.

    The only basis for the ban is the controversial language, in the plaintiff's opinion, in the literature and interpretation of the Bible. "It's not the quotations of the Bible that are extremist, but the interpretations of what is written in the Bible," Svetlana Borisova, a representative of the Ministry of Justice, honestly stated at the trial.

    Further: b) after the ban, believers will continue to believe in the same way as they believed before. History does not know of cases when "Jehovah's Witnesses" changed their beliefs at the orders of the authorities. If someone thinks that with the help of the prohibition of believers it is possible to "re-educate", to remake the desired pattern, this is an extremely naive prediction. This does not work.

    The only thing that will change as a result of the court decision: people will have to be imprisoned. And you will not have to plant a rock band consisting of three people and not a Pokemon hunter in the same person, but almost 200,000 citizens of the country. An incredible number of people, which in modern history did not put any civilized state. We will have to build new prisons, whole prison networks. Of course, I want to believe that it will not be possible to plant such a large number of people. But in any case, a completely new page begins in the history of state-confessional relations.

    Lawyer Viktor Zhenkov told an instructive story: "This room was attended by a man who was born in prison, because his mother was sentenced on the fifth month of pregnancy as an enemy of the people to 8 years of imprisonment just because she was a Jehovah's Witness. She gave birth, and the child spent two years in a prison orphanage, his father could not take him because he was exiled to Siberia.In 1991, the state recognized the mother as a victim of political repression, apologized to her, appointed a pension. , Having born He approached me and asked: "Does the Ministry of Justice wish to repeat this terrible story?" And I did not know what to answer, and I do not know now what moves the representatives of the Ministry of Justice and those who direct this process. "

    Today, some continue to say: there will be no landings, the legal entity is simply banned,

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    A similar comment was made at our special talk. However, the Watchtower Society could prevent a ban from occurring in Australia, if it would just co-operate with the Australian Royal Commission on the issue of child abuse policies and procedures.

    Other organisations have managed to make the required adjustments so that their policies and procedures meet best practice standards.
     
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    True..but they are refusing to yield ....if we go,down over here....it will be because of this .....the courts have no respect at all for us...Gods own people...and Jehovah himself...humiliated before the nation...we are fools to them...and our God is made to look the fool as well....:(:(
     
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    I have been informed that this journalist is an elder....im not sure either way....
     
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    “Go in through the narrow gate” - Matthew 7:13, 14

    KEEP ON THE WATCH·WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2016[​IMG]
    (Matthew 7:13, 14) “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.”

    The two roads concept was a familiar idea to many of Jesus’ listeners. Moses had set such a choice before the Israelites when they were about to enter the Promised Land, and a similar choice was given to them just before Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians. (Deuteronomy 30:19; Jeremiah 21:8) But Jesus’ illustration painted a graphic picture of what each road was like.

    The broad and spacious road is linked to two Greek words: ‘plateia’ (broad, wide), and ‘eurychōros’ (broad country or place). Have you ever crossed a wide plain or moor with no signposts to guide you, and no boundaries or fences? You can soon be lost, with no landmarks in sight. It may seem easy to make progress, especially if you don’t care where you are going. That is how this world appears to many today – they take no thought as to their goal in life, but they drift aimlessly, living only for today, and not working to place any boundaries to their course of action, a course often described as ‘free and independent’. Jesus said most people were like that, on a course that meant their destruction. (Compare to Rom. 1:28-32)

    The opposite course was not easy, but it did lead to life. A fine description of a narrow road or path is given by Josephus when he explains how the great rock of Masada, on the shore of the Dead Sea could be climbed. ‘The former (path) they call the snake, seeing a resemblance to that reptile in its narrowness and continual winding’s; for its course is broken in skirting the jutting crags and, returning frequently upon itself and gradually lengthening out again, it makes painful headway. One traversing this route must firmly plant each foot alternately. Destruction faces him; for on either side yawn chasms so terrific as to daunt the hardiest. After following this perilous track for thirty furlongs, one reaches the summit.’ (War Book VII. ch. 8, (3), 282-284 Loeb edition.)

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    A difficult ascent, fraught with danger, and the possibility of losing out by departing from the path. No wonder Paul and Barnabas strengthened the disciples in Asia Minor, ‘encouraging them to remain in the faith and saying: “We must enter into the Kingdom of God through many tribulations.”’ (Acts 14:22) That path is very much like climbing a mountain, which will take all our strength and endurance. (Micah 4:1, 2.)

    But notice that Jesus’ first command is, “Go in through the narrow gate”. Yes, get started on the road to life by means of dedication to God, despite the road being ‘cramped’ by persecution and tribulation. Progress on that road is not going to be in one’s own strength alone, but God promises to help us by his holy spirit. If God is on our side because we are loyal to him, nothing can separate us from his love and his narrow path, and we will be victorious in the end. (Romans 8:26-39.)
     
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