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    Considering The Russian situation and the worlds state..also the societies condition....this scripture has given me cause to pause and reflect a lot...

    ROMANS 13:12
    The night is nearly over; the day has drawn near. So let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
     
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    Sis Thinking, that article has me in tears. What awful things our spiritual family faces over there. :(

    Hubby and I often talk about how much we love our brothers and sisters, they are such wonderful people. It is easy to feel safe in the US, where I've received many sweet comments and messages from supportive non-witness friends online who can't believe what's happening there. It makes me wonder what the Russian people think of all this! Do they think this is okay, or are they angry at loss of freedom like my friends here are?
     
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    Apparently many have come to their defence ...people will defend them until it puts their lives in danger,,,or their families lives in danger ...yes ex Luther...it is easy to feel safe and comfortable in places like UK USA and Australia...but who knows for how long hey ...its good you have a great back up from your friends.....I heard today that trump invited them to come to the states...lol..but I've got to verify that one....hope your well sisxxx
     
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    On the exact same day that the Russian government banned Jehovah's Witness's as being an; "extremist" organization, on April 24th, 2017, marked the anniversary of when Hitler and Nazi Germany, banned Jehovah's Witness's, in 1933.

    Many were sent to concentration camps and some were executed, including 25 year old Wilhelm Kusserow who, on this very day, the 27th April, in 1940, was executed by firing squad at Münster Prison in Germany.

    "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

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    1940: Wilhelm Kusserow, Jehovah's Witness
    (Thanks to Meaghan Good of the Charley Project for the guest post. -ed.) On this date in 1940, 25-year-old Wilhelm Kusserow was executed by firing squad at Münster Prison in Germany. A Jehovah's Wi...
    EXECUTEDTODAY.COM
     
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    The Kusserow family have been mentioned a few times in the Yearbooks (sorry, can't remember which issues.)
     
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    For those who cannot translate: Ekarinburg willbe offering 450,000 rubels (about $8000 US dollars) t anyone who turns in "extremists" on social media. This includes Facebook and Twitter accounts and blogs!
    looks like open season on our brothers in Russia [​IMG]

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    Мэрия Екатеринбурга заплатит 450 тысяч рублей выявившему 3000 «экстремистов» в соцсетях
    Мэрия Екатеринбурга объявила конкурс по выявлению экстремистов на основании профилей в социальных сетях. Исполнитель госзаказа получит…
    OPENRUSSIA.ORG
     
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    Hi,

    I found this regarding the quote:

     
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    Thanks Barry...I,got,that link sent to me ...so I hope wallflower or and admin will kindly remove my post...as it is so misleading
     
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    ( waiting......as in sleeping )

    ALL IS WELL....

    Death is nothing at all.

    I have only slipped away into the next room.

    I am I, and you are you.

    Whatever we were to each other, that we still are.

    Call me by my old familiar name,

    Speak to me in the easy way which you always used.

    Put no difference in your tone,

    Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.

    Laugh as we always laughed at the little jokes we enjoyed together.

    Play, smile, think of me and if you want to, pray for me.

    Let my name be ever the household word that it always was,

    Let it be spoken without effect,

    Without the trace of a shadow on it.

    Life means all that it ever meant.

    It is the same as it ever was;

    There is unbroken continuity.

    Why should I be out of mind because I am out of sight?

    I am waiting for you,

    For an interval,

    Somewhere very near,

    Just around the corner.

    All is well.

    - by Henry Scott-Holland
     
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    Hi Thinking,
    I just attended a memorial service for a close family member. I still get the “Oh, they’re up there with so and so. They’re having a great time with. . . (fill in another relative or friend's name). I don’t have the heart to try to explain that they are not in heaven, but asleep in death. The resurrection is not instantaneous at this time.

    I was jumped on about another bible statement in which I tried to explain the physics of creation. Didn’t go through. No connection, brain wave is disconnected. o_O At least the relative won't be out of mind. They were truly loved.

    Enya - Only Time




     
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    Oh Bro T....you are burying to many of your family and friends ..I'm so sorry..big hug to you..xx
    I'm like you now...I dont try to explain...either....what can we do...nothing really as they don t want to know...I guess the mystery or the unknown is easier to bear...or heaven sounds nice..and it's easier for them That way.

    We buried our 34 yr old nephew and sister in law with in one week..they are actually side by side in the cemetery ....personally I struggle with how parents don't demand to know just where they are...and what is to become of them...especially as my family do not beleive in a God.....the most I can get out...to one or two....IF I'm allowed to get it out...is....'it's not the end for him, he will be back'
    But nobody ever asks questions or even prod for a little more...so I doubt any one would have listened to you anyway Bro T.:(..so don't worry yourself over that...

    All I can come up with is if the death of a son or a close family member does not get someone thinking...then sadly I dont think anything will...they would have all known you..and some of your beliefs ....you tried and did what they permitted you to....
    It's hard isn't it...especially when they are family and such lovely people...
    I remember a brother talking with me..saying some people are just so lovely and nice that he often wanted to just shove the truth down their throat......this brother came from the world and was covered in Tatoos and had done serious prison time ..so he probably could have actually shoved it down someone's throat.....aaaah of only we could hey
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    Let us just say we know the truth as written in the Bible. Most claimed “Christian” religions teach that you go to heaven when you die. It’s easier to believe that line of reasoning. It also soothes them. I also have family that are atheists. They don’t like me questioning them about science because I know enough to stump them with; “Where did all the matter come from, nothing?” Something came from nothing? “Who built all these houses?” After they say it was some building company, I say “You didn’t see them build it, did you? So how do you know they built it?” “They just suddenly appeared from nothing, according to your beliefs.” That’s when they get mad and stop talking. I leave it at that. :eek:
     
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    We deal with these people on a constant basis do we not? The apostles understood our dilemma, and thankfully we can take some comfort in their accounts...

    We lean on the word (from our Lord, "the lamp stand") that was written beforehand in our behalf, from the plan before the "founding of the world", in order to guide us in the ways of Jehovah's will, and into the immanent arrival of his kingdom...

    The unfortunate aspect of time is, although infinite, we understand it may or may not pertain to us... This is the only selfish thought that should concern us...

    In my opinion as always...

    PS: Although I find my main concerns his kingdom and will, I also concern myself with my families future, yet the idea of no conscientiousness means all of these things are irreverent, and that disturbs me...
     
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    I hope this talk loads up because every single one of you here will love it...it is from an Australian CO from the 70s....it's fantastic ..and yes you will like it too Bro T..it's what the truth is all about....or should be..obviously the talks were not so tightly scripted back then...but he sure knew what he was talking about....


    https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...2jNQjCaod53RyzH5uDQiovG5euXvWaUpJlkhdstiI&s=1
     
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    The end of the Anglo-American order?

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    There has always been a shared conceit at the heart of the special relationship between the United States and United Kingdom that global leadership is best expressed and exerted in English.

    More boastful than the Brits, successive US presidents have trumpeted the notion of American exceptionalism.

    Prime ministers, in a more understated manner, have also come to believe in British exceptionalism, the idea that Westminster is the mother parliament, and that the UK has a governing model and liberal values that set the global standard for others to follow, not least its former colonies.

    In the post-war Anglo-American order those ideas came together. In many ways, it was the product of Anglo-American exceptionalist thinking: the "city upon a hill" meets "this sceptred isle".

    Nato, the IMF, the World Bank and the Five Eyes intelligence community all stemmed from the Atlantic Charter signed by Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill in August 1941.

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    The liberalised free trade system that flourished after the war is often called the Anglo-Saxon model. The post-world global architecture, diplomatic, mercantile and financial, was largely an English-speaking construct.

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    In recent weeks, however, the Anglo-American order has looked increasingly weak and wobbly. The unexpectedly messy result of the British election makes it look still more fragile, like a historic edifice left tottering in the wake of a major quake.

    There is uncertainty in Westminster, and something nearing chaos in Washington because of Russian probe at the White House and on Capitol Hill.

    Neither Britain nor America can boast strong and stable governments. Neither have the look of global exemplars.

    In the six weeks since Theresa May called her snap election, the global tectonic plates have shifted fast, leaving Britain and America increasingly adrift.

    Donald Trump, during his first international trip, refused to publicly endorse Article V of the Nato treaty and publicly scolded his allies over financial burden sharing.

    He found himself isolated at the G7 summit in Sicily. Then, on his return to Washington, came the announcement that the United States would withdraw from the Paris agreement, a decision of massive planetary and geopolitical import.

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    How the world reacted

    Here, America First meant America alone, and Trump seemed to revel in his neo-isolationism - as he did when he withdrew from the Trans-Pacific Partnership early in his presidency.

    For Britain, the diplomatic impact of Brexit has also become clearer in recent weeks. EU leaders have bluntly outlined how they will set the terms of the divorce settlement, in what looks more and more like a diktat than an amicable separation.

    The 27 remaining members of the EU have also made it clear they intend to penalise the UK.

    When Jean-Claude Juncker met Theresa May at Downing Street shortly after she called the election, he was evidently dismayed by her approach.

    "I'm leaving Downing Street 10 times more sceptical than I was before," the EU Commission president reportedly informed his host.

    As one senior EU diplomat put it to me: "Britain has shot itself in one foot. We intend to shoot you in the other."

    The British prime minister, by failing to win an election she didn't have to call, has weakened her bargaining position still further. Brexit negotiator Guy Verhofstadt has already called the UK election: "Yet another own goal."

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    In recent weeks it is not only the UK's relations with the EU that have become more strained. Its cherished trans-Atlantic alliance has also been subject to some unforeseen stress tests.

    I never expected to report that Britain would stop sharing sensitive intelligence with the United States, but that was the story we broke in the aftermath of the Manchester bombing.

    Then, following the London attack, came Donald Trump's Twitter assault on the London Mayor Sadiq Khan. Again, in the pre-Trump world it would have been unthinkable for a US President to mount such a vicious attack on a British mayor in the wake of a UK terror attack.

    Sir Christopher Meyer, Britain's former ambassador in Washington, seemed to capture the public mood when he noted: "Trump makes me puke."

    The prime minister steered clear of delivering a stiff public rebuke to the President over his attack on Mayor Khan, presumably out of fear of angering Donald Trump and jeopardising a post-Brexit trade deal with the US.

    Perhaps this also explained why she didn't join with Germany, France and Italy in signing a joint declaration slamming Trump's Paris decision.


    Media captionDonald Trump challenged London Mayor Sadiq Khan to an IQ test
    But again that emphasises Britain's weakness. The special relationship has always been an asymmetrical relationship but now it seems even more lop-sided. It speaks of the UK's post-Brexit diplomacy of desperation.

    The trans-Atlantic alliance will eventually have to deal with a longer-term problem that will outlast the Trump administration. One of Britain's great uses to Washington in recent decades has been as a bridge to the European Union.

    It's why Barack Obama lobbied so hard for a 'remain' vote ahead of last year's referendum. Under future US presidents, it is easy to imagine a German-American alliance supplanting the special relationship.

    Voids in global leadership are immediately filled, and we've seen that happen at warp speed over the past few weeks. Brexit has galvanised the European Union. The election of Emmanuel Macron has revitalised the Franco-German alliance, giving it a more youthful and dynamic look.

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    Post-Paris, a green alliance has emerged between Beijing and Brussels. More broadly, China sees the chance to extend its sphere of influence, positioning itself on environmental issues as the international pace-setter. Even before Mr Trump took the oath of office, this looked more likely to be the Asian Century rather than a repeat of the American Century.

    Europe eyes an enhanced role for itself, too. "We Europeans must really take our fate into our own hands," declared Angela Merkel during a speech in a Bavarian beer hall after the disastrous G7 summit.

    In a pointed dig at America and Britain, she also warned that the days when Germany could completely rely on others are "over to a certain extent".

    More and more, the German chancellor looks like the leader of the free world, something that would have required a massive leap of imagination in the years immediately after World War II, when the English-speaking liberal global order was taking shape.

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    Winston Churchill, during the 1946 speech in Fulton, Missouri, in which he coined the phrase "special relationship" (and also the "iron curtain"), noted: "It is necessary that constancy of mind, persistency of purpose, and the grand simplicity of decision shall guide and rule the conduct of the English-speaking peoples in peace as they did in war. We must, and I believe we shall, prove ourselves equal to this severe requirement."

    Right now, both the United States and the United Kingdom seem to be failing that Churchillian test.

    These English-speaking nations no longer speak with such a clarion voice, and the rest of the world no longer takes such heed.

    A new world order seems to be emerging that is being articulated in other tongues.
     
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    When reading the latest news accounts, I think of Luke 4:5-7. “And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, ‘I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore if You worship before me, it shall all be Yours.’” ( Lk 4:5-7 NASB )

    It is apparent that the leaders of this world have given their worship (proskuneo = pros-koo-neh'-o) from pros (to the advantage of) and, kuon (koo'- ohn)
    1. a dog
    2. metaphor- a man of impure mind.

    Probable derivative of meanings/definitions:
    1. to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence. Like a dog licking the hand.
    2. among the Orientals, esp. the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an expression of profound reverence
    3. in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication
    a. used of homage shown to men and beings of superior rank
    1.to the Jewish high priests
    2. to God
    3. to Christ
    4. to heavenly beings
    5. to demons

    Hmmm. Sounds like some of the world leaders today. Pick a name, pick a country.
     
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    I once took a walk in the cool night air
    To collect my thoughts and to offer prayer:
    "Jehovah, how could my brother treat me this way?
    It hurt me so much what he did today.
    "What was this brother even thinking of?
    Doesn't he know how to show real love?"
    I walked a while longer, then turned with a sigh...
    Look! A great forest piercing the sky.
    How pleasant, how grand this forest of trees,
    In union, they swayed from a rushing breeze.
    This forest was a haven, a place of rest,
    Where deer could lie down and sparrows could nest.
    I shifted my course for a clearer sight
    Of these towering timbers in all their might.
    But as I came closer it was clear to me
    That something was wrong with every tree.
    One was rotten, about to collapse.
    Another was stunted, lack of water perhaps.
    One had from lightning been shattered apart.
    There were somewhere disease had gotten a start.
    Yes, the longer I looked the more I could see
    That not even one was a perfect tree.
    Could these huge trees have a lesson to give
    Which would help me in peace with my brother to live?
    If you yourself have been in a quarrel
    Then listen to this, for here is the moral:
    No man can be perfect as many will say
    And some will offend like that brother today.
    But, take a step back, look around if you would
    At the beauty and peace of our brotherhood.
    Jehovah is with us, of this I am sure,
    For in union we speak the language that's pure.
    And the best proof we have that we're blessed from above,
    Is the way we forgive with brotherly love.
    So you'll worship Jehovah with much greater ease
    If you don't miss the beauty of the forest for the tree...... Author unknown. See JW.Org for more.
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    Wow!!!! ..is this the start of the one world religion they have been forming for years at the UN....it will be very hard to have no part of this ...we will look like trouble makers...
     

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