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    I don’t think any human can fathom the depth of Jehovah’s or Jesus love...as you say most if not all would not give up their life for another...unless it was one of your own..

    Have you read much on Russell....tho he got a lot wrong..he had an huge amount right....much of what he discerned did actually get changed by Rutherford..( not sure I would have liked him that much actually as to his personality)
    I don’t want to get into a debate with anyone here..as I’m trying to contain my personality a wee bit...( my mouth ):p...but I’m leaning to towards his understanding a bit more...perhaps it’s because that’s what I want...who knows.

    His thought was that many of those that die at Armageddon....as there will be as the scriptures say...dead from one end of the earth to the other..and fit for the second death...
    Yet he implied that many that do die at Armageddon will not suffer the second death but just the first death and would have an opportunity again in his judgement day...should they fail then it will be the second death for them.

    If you read his Armageddon book...it explains it better....but it is a long and tedious read...but well worth it as after a agonizing read a gold nugget appears and one thinks...aaaaah...yes...that makes so much sense.
    What’s interesting is the society has indeed altered their thoughts on some things and when you go back researching you find it is what Russell actually taught in the first place.

    Basically I do think we are in for some big surprises...I no longer think I will live to see them but one never knows:)
    Tho if literal Israel takes a part in the end game and the cry of peace and security comes from her...then I just may see it...
     
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    How did the early Christians Greet each other even in the apostles days?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_of_peace

    1 Peter 5:14
    Parallel Verses
    New Living Translation
    Greet each other with Christian love. Peace be with all of you who are in Christ.

    King James Bible
    Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.

    Darby Bible Translation
    Salute one another with a kiss of love. Peace be with you all who are in Christ.

    World English Bible
    Greet one another with a kiss of love. Peace be to you all who are in Christ Jesus. Amen.

    Young's Literal Translation
    Salute ye one another in a kiss of love; peace to you all who are in Christ Jesus! Amen.
     
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    So what sort of greeting is implied here....and still acknowledging the cross references stated here.....it’s all about Balance...one of the hardest things to master...

    https://biblehub.com/2_john/1-10.htm
     
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    This is a very very thought provoking short talk...I have listened numerous times to it....and don’t like admitting it was a bit uncomfortable at times...
     
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    I’m going to put this short talk up before it disappears on me"....I’m not to sure what the little quote is on the start of this video... it it has nothing to do with the talk.
    These type of talks are little golden gems,,,,but to my knowledge none of the grasped or were given the insight to Jesus and his proper place...they are I think all Trinitarians....most still believed in hell fire,...but some of these gems are too good to pass up.


     
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    oh boy am I .:mad::mad:.....absolutely livid!!!!!!!
    All the fantastic talks by some great brothers have been taken down....just wiped by utube due to the society no doubt....aaaaarrrggghhhhh!!!!
    Does anyone have the talk by
    Phil Hayworth...are you tied to Jehovah
    Also his two talks....the last days of Jesus....
    I saved them but they have gone and I’ve looked every where I know....should have got a tape deck and taped them....they were priceless in my thoughts.......this just STINKS!!!!

    I better go for a walk to cool down...:mad:
     
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    I remember this brother...incredible faith and endurance !
     
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    I have a hard time thinking of kissing another man on the lips. Or, even on the neck.:eek:o_O
     
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    Hey Thinking,
    The bible hub has all these, 29 translations, and does’t have the NWT. Could that be considered prejudice ? Well, maybe not. They don’t have the Green's Literal Translation (LITV), or the 2001 Translation An American English Bible. But it is another tool to use in the study of the bible. I especially liked the Notes section. They have a very good note section on Anointed.

    Thanks for the link. I will definitely put it to use. OHH, by the way, I think Phil Hayworth may have died. That’s based of the fact that others are asking about him, And there are no videos available. He was a CO in the 1970's. That would make him older than me! :eek: Some are listed as archived in the JW site, but I couldn’t access them. One other site listed them but, it required a “sign up” for their site. They wanted too much personal information.:mad:

     
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    I remember this brother...incredible faith and endurance !


    Hahaha...well actually my eyebrow raised at that extent of things to:confused::D
     
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    Yeah I noticed the NWT is not on bible hub and a few others..but I do a lot of research there as the commentaries are very good even tho at times disagree with each other....you probably know another one called Biblegateway...that’s great to especially for listening to the scriptures ...I use that a lot.
    What I need is a tape deck and some tapes..that way if I ever find these gold nuggets I can tape them and keep them.
    I did come a cross a site that looked like a radio site and you had to sign up..password and all that ...but I spat the dummy after my second try....oh well I’ll keep looking...
    Just a funny thing here...I came in with the likes of Dan Sydlick and I loved his talks...I didn’t always agree with everything but back then that was okay..it was no big deal...and he certainly wasn’t politically correct in his talks.
    I recently listened to another one and he made a comment...and I said to out loud.....whooooaaa!!! And the funny thing is I could also hear his audience say out loud ..WHOOOOAAA!.....hahah cause back then you could do that ...what he has said was .....he didn’t have children but he had a wife and he thought that was like having a child......so that Whoooa probably came from the sisters...haha...but he was a very feeling man and he loved Jehovah and the brothers and sisters......not sure I’d want to be married to him tho........but I loved and still love his talks...
     
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    Great discussion or debate by Russell...but from a man who was given insight into who really was Jesus thus he was not a trinitarian


     
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    Part two of the debate..I hope I’ve got them in the right order.
    You know he really was a very brave man...he went to churches, halls, rooms or whatever society would have him to talk.
    He went to the Freemasons halls to speak on Jehovah and his great plan and where a lot claim proof that he was a mason which is totally untrue....


     
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    Excellent explanation of a complex situation

     
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    Fascinating .......this link explains how Noah’s flood actually happened....

     
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    This is a really good talk ..actually this brother seems to pretty well always give good talks....so if you are fed up and sick of things....this one will help
    I think I might need to play this one monthly...
     
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    Good explanation of what Brother Russell was really saying

     

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