What great reward did Jesus get from Jehovah for sacrifying himself for humanity?

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    Only lately have I understood what great reward Jesus got from sacrifying himself for humanity.
    I had long struggled to understand why God let Jesus to be killed so atrociously. I had thought that Jesus could have been killed in a more painless way and any way become a sacrifice for our sins. So what was the point of all the torture he had to experience? Of course that was a defeat for Satan, that Jesus endured all that. And Jesus was really troubled for the way he would be killed.
    Luke12:50 Indeed, I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and how I am distressed until it is finished.
    That he said,I don't know how many days before his death.

    And the last night before his death he said:

    Mark14: 33 And he took Peter and James and John along with him, and he began to feel deeply distressed and to be greatly troubled. 34 He said to them: “I am deeply grieved, even to death. Stay here and keep on the watch.” 35 And going a little way forward, he fell to the ground and began praying that, if it were possible, the hour might pass away from him. 36 And he said: “Abba, Father, all things are possible for you; remove this cup from me. Yet, not what I want, but what you want.

    So what great reward did Jesus get from God that more than well compensated for his sufferings?

    Philipians2: 9 For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

    John 5:22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son, 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him

    So if Jehovah God had exalted Jesus to that position without him going through such sufferings, some angels might have thought they could instead of Jesus gone to earth to sacrifice their life and get that elevated position Jesus now has got.
    But they all knew the sufferings the Messiah must go through, because it was all foretold in Isaiah 53. And I think all the angels in heaven are grateful that Jesus took that extremely painful mission so that they did not have to do that.
     
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    I would have to disagree with you...

    From what I know of Jesus, he never wanted a high position like Satan wanted.

    Ish 14:13 "You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to the heavens. Above the stars of God I will lift up my throne, And I will sit down on the mountain of meeting,In the remotest parts of the north."

    Jesus wished to serve in the image of God, just as Adam was to. To be in the image of God is to assist, to help. Jehovah creates life and assists them to grow. Man was to assist this world and help it grow. Jesus is the image of God because he assisted others. He washed the feet of his disciples, and helped the sick, and brought hearts to God.

    I don't believe Jesus ever wanted a high position, he only wanted to help.

    Luk 9:46-48 "Then a dispute arose among them about which one of them was the greatest. Jesus, knowing the reasoning of their hearts, took a young child, stood him beside him, and said to them: “Whoever receives this young child on the basis of my name receives me also; and whoever receives me also receives the One who sent me. For the one who conducts himself as a lesser one among all of you is the one who is great.”

    As for the position he was given in heaven, he was given it to perform his tasks as judge. He sits on the throne for the authority to bring into submission all things to his Father. This is serving in the image of God.

    As to the cup Jesus prayed to be removed, it was the cup of his blood that was poured out for mankind.

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    Joshua, I did not say Jesus desired that high position, he was even willing to give it up when he prayed God to remove this cup from him.
     
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    As I mentioned in my post, Jesus wasn't praying for the events to come to be removed from him, he was praying that the cup of his blood be removed from him, he was praying that he could give his life up that much quicker.

    Article: "Remove This Cup From Me"

    The reward and compensation he got from his suffering was that he was able to help mankind.

    Prov 8:30-31 "Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men."

    His position on his Fathers throne is not a permanent one, and is only in place to serve as judge.

    I only see one purpose and one reward from our Lord, and that is assistance.
     
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    Jan, I agree with your thoughts regarding what Jesus had to go through. How tumultuous it must have been for him knowing what he was going to have to do. And yes he received a wonderful reward, as does all of Jehovahs children who wish to do his will. Jehovah does not hold back that is for sure.
     
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    The greatest thing that Jesus received from Jehovah was Life within himself. He is now independent from His Father. Every other thing with a life-force is dependent on Jehovah God for life, breath, and spirit. I consider spirit as the electromagnetic force that all living creatures have and need. They get this force from Jehovah God, through His loving Son. ( John 1:3, 10 ) In John 1:10 the word “world” is not speaking of the earth and mankind. The word used is kosmos; from the primary word komidzo ( kom-id’-zo ): to care for, take care of, provide for: to carry, bear, bring to, to carry away for one's self, to carry off what is one's own, to bring back.

    This is where most scholars understand who was spoken to at Gen 1:26. “Then God said: ‘Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth.’” (NWT) (Prov 8:30; John 1:3; Col 1:16)
     

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