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Who is Gog of Magog?

Discussion in 'Bible Prophecy' started by Jan, Feb 27, 2016.

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    Today a light went up for me.
    See here, Donald Trump has now many times been labeled to be a Demagogue. You can spell that word also demagog.

    So there you have it, deMagog or demaGog.
    That is what he is called. Too simple in fact. Donald Trump will be Gog of Magog, very likely. So much fit him to the prophecies in the Bible.

    Now Mexico's ex president has shown his annoyance with Trump and China also has officially denounced Trump.
    There is only one country left to be humiliated by the little horn that will grow big. Trump has been bashing Japan. So may be these 3 horns are those who will be humiliated according to the prophecy in Daniel.
     
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    Hi Jan,

    With regards to the identification of Gog of Magog how does these scriptures in Revealtion fit into your belief?

    Revelation 20:
    7 Now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, Satan will be let loose out of his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Ma′gog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them. 10 And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet [already were]; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever

    It certainly appears to me that Gog and Magog do not appear until the final show down after the thousand year rule of Jesus and his bride is over.

    If I missed something here please help me to understand.

    Joe
     
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    I don't see there a problem because Gog in Ezekiel 38 refers to the war at Armageddon before the 1000 year reign. But Gog in Revelation 20 speaks about an other Gog who will emerge as a leader, a demagog after the 1000 years.
     
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    Going by history and those that run the world...I cannot see how that man will not be assassinated ...
    If he survives.....if he wins...it can only be because that's the way it's meant to play out in the time of the end.
    I would be worried sick if I was his family...
     
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    Dear Jan,

    We can't draw sensible conclusions based on mere puns. That's what I call scriptural soup.

    If we followed your reasoning regarding someone else, Vladimir Putin would be the MOL and the King of Babylon as Vladimir means "ruling the world" and Putin/Putain means "whore/harlot" in French.

    The same with Trump since "trompe" in French = "trunk" in English. Verb "tromper" in French = "to deceive" in English. Quite an appropriate name for someone whose party symbol is an elephant... :p but in French only...
     
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    Yes you make the logical conclusion, if it is meant to be this way, nobody will stop him before his time is up.

    The same was amazingly true about Hitler, there were many assassination attempts on him, but he survived them all miraculously.
     
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    Utuna, we have to acknowledge that God has hidden the meaning of many prophecies so that you can easily draw a wrong conclusion.
    So in some cases a pun could well confirm a prophecy but in an other case it would not. Just to make it more confusing. God deliberately hides the true understanding from the majority, as you know.
    That Donald Trump is labeled demagogue would not in itself be enough to confirm that he really will be Gog of Magog. But there are many other striking features that fit the prophecy. New York Daily News labeled him recently Antichrist. So again here you have one more confirming feature.
     
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    http://www.infowars.com/bankers-council-on-foreign-relations-launch-tirade-against-donald-trump/

    The article reveals that the bankers and The Council on Foreign Relations are against Trump.
    There will be a fight. Those groups are concentrated in New York. So here again more indications that New York is Babylon the Great that will be destroyed. I think Donald Trump will propose such an idea to once for all finish with them.
    But first this city has to be thoroughly exposed and hated.
    Surely Donald Trump will do that well, "the fierce -looking king" from Daniel 8:23 .
     
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    An interesting history of the people who makeup Gog and Magog.
    It always pays to understand History, especially that ties to the Bible.

    I find this advice very useful and true.

    Avoiding Truth
    There is a principle
    which is a bar against all information,
    which is proof against all argument,
    and which cannot fail to keep man
    in everlasting ignorance.
    That principle is condemnation before investigation.
    - Edmund Spencer (1552-1599 London)

    He who gives an answer before he hears,
    It is folly and shame to him
    .” ( Proverbs 18:13 NASB )

    Chuck Missler - The Magog Invasion [Session 1]

     
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    The Magog Invasion Session 2

    Chuck Missler - The Magog Invasion [Session 2]
     
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    Thanks Tsaphah for those videos !

    Even before the video really begins, I disagree with them because of the hammer and the sickle that stands for the first G of Magog but there are interesting inputs revealed anyway....
     
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    Hey U,
    I don't necessarily agree with this. I take the advice of Soloman. I always take the time to educate myself. Education doesn't end when you finish the required schooling. That is when it begins. Sometimes we don't recognize when God is teaching us, even when it may be false information from other sources.:eek:
     
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    Magog (in Revelation) apparently indicates resurrected peoples who will actually turn against the kingdom of God under the rule of Christ. (Eze 38:3, 14, 16, 18; 39:1), (Rev 20:8). They will be led by demons who have been loosed from their prison to attack God’s resurrected peoples who are living ing peaceful conditions in the kingdom. The word used in Eze 38:3, translated as “prince”, is nasiy’ (naw-see’) meaning one lifted up, one who rises up. The name Gog is transliterated from Hebrew into Greek as Gog; meaning mountain. I guess that could also be a high place. One lifted up, or one rising up in power. Remember what is said at Acts 24:15. Even today there are those righteous and unrighteous within the congregations of all so-called christian organizations, throughout the world.
     

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