Your thoughts on ... Jury duty?

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    Well friends, hello.

    Yesterday, I received in the mail a jury summons. This has never happened to me before, because in the state of Oklahoma, they pull your information from voter's registration I believe, and of course, I've never participated in that. However, I have moved to PA because my husband's work has taken us here, and it's been a experience for sure. I've had a very emotional period, and many upon many prayers to Jah. I guess in PA, they pull your info just from registering to drive. :( I feel really alone at times, and I did not visit a kingdom hall here yet.

    I'm quite upset because on the website, in the faq section, it says you will not be excused so easily for religious beliefs, and you must go before the judge and let he/she decide. I've contacted my family and my mother said she went through this, and wrote a letter and it was enough to be excused. I will do this, but I'm not sure it will be enough.

    Anywho, after some research, apparently this is supposed to be a decision of conscience....
    ... and my conscience tells me, that I'm not comfortable in sitting of the judgment of another, and that is reserved for God. (Matt. 7:1) Who am I to evaluation the sins of others? That's just my personal feelings.

    Some JW's have viewed jury service as rendering to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. (Luke 20:25) So it seems tricky.

    I'm writing today, to ask for advice, scriptures, support, stories from those who have maybe experienced this? or not. I'd just like to know how you feel about this situation. Thanks all, may Jehovah continue to bless you.

    Love,
    Orchid.
     
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    I would highly suggest doing that... :)

    It is my humble opinion that I think your on the right track, follow your heart on the matter and leave everything else in Jehovah's hand. If you are not excused, so be it, if you are, just the same...
     
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    Just writing from my own experience here. I've received a summons to go to jury duty on several occasions.

    In my current occupation, when I receive a jury summons, I present that to the administration staff at the company that I work for. They write a letter explaining why I would not be available to serve on a jury. I work in a company where we have to ensure that we always have sufficient staff to respond to client needs, at short notice.

    In my previous occupation, I wrote letters explaining that I felt that it wasn't my place to pronounce judgement on someone else. I used Romans 14:4: "Who are you to judge the house of another?" etc, etc.

    I don't know about the arrangements in other countries, but here in Australia, a judge could insist that a person come to the court house in person. The next step would be the jury selection process. During that phase, a person can be excused if they express ideas that indicate that they wouldn't be a suitable candidate to serve on the jury.

    So I never worried about whether the court would accept my letter. I figured that if I ever made it past that and was asked to go to the selection process, the court would soon figure out that I wasn't a suitable candidate.

    I'm just speaking for myself here.
     
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    Hi Orchid :)

    In the UK, they pull off your name from the electoral register, regardless of whether you vote or not. Both my parents were called up when they were alive, and I myself when I was only 20 years old three decades ago. It was an interesting experience, when the case of a fraudster had me and another girl next to me and several of the jury in quiet laughter. But there was a second case where a young serial-burglar had broke into a disabled woman's home. We on the jury all agreed he was guilty, however, the only evidence against him was a signed statement of confession. The burglar was illiterate and couldn't sign his name except with an X, so we believed the confession was doctored by the police. On that basis we delivered a Not Guilty verdict.

    I've never forgotten the expression of shock on the police and victim's faces. I wasn't a practicing Christian then, but I said to myself, I never want to be on a jury again and set free a person I believed to be guilty. Four years ago, I received a notice to serve on a jury, and with prayer, I asked to be excused from service due to my conscience because of what happened when I was twenty. To my surprise and joy, they excused me from service! I thanked God and have kept their letter of exclusion.

    So please pray to God, let your feelings be known to him, and wait to see what happens!

    Londoner
     
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    I didn't show up to mine, is that bad?
     
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    Yes, they could issue a warrant for your arrest. I would call your local police station and ask for advice...
     
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    I just traveled by air last month. If I had an arrest warrant they would have prevented me.

    But I was also stopped by the police three times and I was never arrested.
     
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    Interesting, maybe your good, but I'm not sure they run your record for flights, but surely they would have let you know when they pulled you over...
     
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    I see. Yes, I had a very long prayer last night, and the words just seemed to follow in mind so easily. I feel like my prayers are usually clunky and getting my thoughts straight is sometimes hard, but not this time.

    Yes, I will write a letter soon to send in with my summons request. It'll probably be denied but it doesn't hurt to put my convictions out there, right away. Then if I have to go the court, I'll take a copy of the letter with me and attach it to my juror information sheet. Apparently they give another paper to fill out, requesting even more information to weed you out of the pool. I'll be attaching it to that so the lawyers will know right away. My mother gave me the phone number of an elder that would confirm association. Chances are, it wouldn't get that far, but you never know. I'll just have to stand-up and let it be known, and actually what a blessing it is to bring glory to Jehovah.

    I'd rather go to jail then be forced to sit as judge on someone which could be displeasing to Jehovah. Sorry. I couldn't deal with the emotional and mental weight of sending someone innocent to jail, or someone guilty free, and even then, how can you be so very sure with what is being presented is actually factual in these times, when lawyers just want to win and people lie. This is Satan's world. Only Jehovah knows what's true.

    Jesus words at Luke 12:13-14 would have technically been a civil case.
    13 Then someone in the crowd said to him: “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”14 He said to him: “Man, who appointed me judge or arbitrator between you two?”

    That makes me smile. Jesus always being the perfect example. :)
    I appreciate the time you guys have taken to share your stories, it's just nice to know I'm not alone. Much love to you all. May Jehovah bless you.

    Orchid.
     
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    You're a beautiful person Orchid.

    I would be glad to have you judge me.

    Better you than someone else, IMO... "do it" is my vote.
     
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    Hahaha, that's very kind of you, but not a chance brother. ;) or sister? heh.
     
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    So I shared my letter with my mother, and she preceded to cry and tell me how proud she was, then she told me I shouldn't say I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses because I'm not baptized. Fair enough. Then she told me if I didn't start going to the meetings I was going to die at Armageddon. That escalated quickly.


    .... :(
     
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    Sorry to hear about your conversation with her, but know that just about all of us here experience the same kind of misunderstands from others within the "Truth", and remember that when the Watchtower comes down you will be able to be there for her and comfort her...
     
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    Does it pay money? Do they feed me lunch?

    OK jury duty no problem for me on a Christian level it's not my business to decide guilt inocence or sentence.

    It's up to ajury to decide if their is enough evidence to convict that's all your head needs to be on. If so guilty if not not guilty
     

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