Zone Visit, Australia, 2013

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    Yes wallflower the laughing after hearing ofthe death of the young man was a utter embarrassment as gods people. I thought to myself we are
    like a mob of dumb sheep. Yes it is sad that we are not told the truth about the closing down of branches, the real reasons as to why. I tried to listen to the surface stuff but I did like the experiences and the bethel brothers talk.
    I try to remember there is still wheat among the weeds. We will never again in this side of the system be able to listen to talks such as this without a feeling of sadness and frustration.
    A big side effect for knowing the truth about the truth I guess.
     
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    Hi Thinking :D

    Nice to hear from you, sister. I couldn't help but wonder why a more positive experience wasn't chosen to illustrate the importance of being neat and well-groomed in our appearance and clothing. There must be many to choose from.

    Regarding Geoffrey Jackson's talk, overall I think he has a likeable manner in terms of delivery style - he is able to connect with the audience.

    Yes, I have to keep reminding myself that there is still wheat among the weeds - I would say that this is the reason why I keep on going.

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    Actually while I was listening to the talk I was wondering what you were thinking as well..haha.as usuall you gave an excellent summary..hope all is well on the home front for you
     
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    We had the ZO talk today here in France. The talk was as I expected, the usual stuff. It was given by brother Malenfant. He's American and gave the talk in French, which was quite good by the way. As for the content of the talk, he said that we, as JWs, have a great spiritual heritage and that we aren't in the darkness as the people in the world are around us, which is true after all (well, that's not because important things are wrong in the official doctrine that we should discard and forget the amount of correct things that are taught anyway). We owe this to the wheat, the faithful anointed brothers of the past and of nowadays (the GB today just keeps parroting (and distorting too unfortunately) what others rediscovered about 100 years ago). He later praised the GB and said the usual bla bla bla about them for the quality of the spiritual food served, their faithfulness, etc. He said things like : "We must pay attention to and be grateful for the spiritual food served by the anointed ones and by the GB in particular..." Well, when we know the amount of the contribution of the other anointed ones in the preparation of the so-called spiritual food, I still wonder why he bothered to mention the anointed ones as a whole...

    That's funny but he also mentioned the Cherokee short story about the two wolves (love, hatred) and the final conclusion : "it'll be the one you feed the most". And now, they'll keep telling us that we shouldn't be lurkers of so-called apostate forums or websites... lol Well, I'm glad that he told that story to all our b/s because that's true that it is a great story anyway to know, meditate and take into consideration.
     
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    Hey Wallflower,

    please, keep praying that the "wheat class" thinks first about Jesus' sheep and about the care that its Master wants them to demonstrate towards his sheep instead of bickering over words and personal interpretations and scorning those who may disagree with them, leaving the JWs as a whole in the lurch for supposedly deserving to be humiliated because they're sure to be right whereas they're wrong. If the justice and concern for Jesus' sheep isn't greater and wiser among the "wheat class" spread out all over the world than among the GB members, Jesus' sheep are not out of the woods yet...

    "The hired man, who is no shepherd and to whom the sheep do not belong as his own, beholds the wolf coming and abandons the sheep and flees—and the wolf snatches them and scatters them— because he is a hired man and does not care for the sheep." - John10:12-13

    "For I say to YOU that if YOUR righteousness does not abound more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, YOU will by no means enter into the kingdom of the heavens." - Mat5:20

    My version :

    "For I say to YOU that if YOUR righteousness does not abound more than that of the GB and of some elders in the congregations, YOU will by no means enter into the kingdom of the heavens."
     
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    David was quite a shepherd, wasn't he ?

    "And David went on to say to Saul: “Your servant became a shepherd of his father among the flock, and there came a lion, and also a bear, and [each] carried off a sheep from the drove. And I went out after it and struck it down and made the rescue from its mouth. When it began rising against me, I grabbed hold of its beard and struck it down and put it to death. Both the lion and the bear your servant struck down..." - 1Sam23:50

    He would never have let the sheep down...
     
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    I heard recently that we are going to be linked in by phone to the Annual General Meeting to be held on October 6, 2013. (I could have this wrong, but I thought you had to have a "special invitation" to be able to go to that. Or is it a case of, now that we have the video conference equipment, we can all be linked in at once?)

    Anyway, the program is supposed to be 3 1/2 hours in length - same length of time as the zone visit. Guess that means I will have to buy a large packet of peppermints and remember to bring a snack for the occasion. :p

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    The District Convention is steadily drawing close. What to put in the handbag??? Hmmm....well I always carry 4 lipsticks...one from each colour group - red, pink, mauve and chocolate brown. Perfume, powder, foundation (putty for the face.)

    Bible, notebook, a few pens, songbook. So I can "say what I see" and play the psychological version of "I spy."

    Chocolate, peppermints, chocolate, beef jerky, chocolate, peanuts (minus the beer.)

    My favorite past-time at the convention is ignoring the "Keep Moving" signs while talking with brothers/sisters. (I only play this in the wide, open areas - not around doorways or stairwells, etc.) Last year I scored 23, over 3 days. I am looking to break my personal record of 28. (I believe a person should be proud of their handiwork!) :p

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    So the Annual General Meeting is only a few days away now. I shall have to be on my best behaviour for a period of 3 1/2 hours. I'm tellin' ya, when I get home the first thing I'm gonna do is "crack open a tinny" (open a can of beer.) All that analyzing make a gal thirsty!
     
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