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    If the buying and selling are said to be spiritual then what are the rich poor great and small buying and selling in terms of spirituality ? certainly they are not buying spiritual gold from Jesus with the mark of the beast. How does a worldly govermental authority force or compel a person to recieve a spiritual mark ? Then buy and sell spiritual goods ? The malgnant ulcer that is said to be suffered by those with the mark is that a spiritual ulcer ? Why does not receiving the mark specifically call for endurance on the part of the holy ones, if it is something against their spiritual inclinations ?

    Whilst the Revelation mixes the physical with the metaphysical, the symbolic with the literal juxtaposing them, it's perculiar style, rendered by its author Jehovah, offers the possibility of disguising, hiding things in plain sight.

    The mark being tangible from an earthly human perspective squares all circles. Accepting something on your body which is representatative to the extent it can constitute 'a name' ['BRAND for branded} and then having to buy food for sustainance according to it would definately constitute eating foods dedicated to an idol. It would starve out believers.

    The prophesy is the most famous existing biblical prophesy, 666 being a commonly known cultural trope. No other fulfillment would prove the bible true and the watchtower in error in one move. Throwing the association of Jehovah's witnesses into confusion. Also many peoples of 'the nations' or even in other religions will, by their human instincts alone, not consent to being branded. Bringing them into consort with 'jehovah's people' for helping aiding and sympathising through human compassion (Matt24). It ostenciably widens the net for possible salvation 'a great mixed crowd'. Additionally those who do not consent and resist with violence and acts of guerilla sabotage against the 'wild beast' will offer the oppurtunity to frame all not complying as a catagory of non compliant criminals.

    In the modern age it has been associated with technologies such as RFID chip. Likely it will be technological and may encompas multiple forms such as ultra violet readable QR type codes tatoos & chip tech. The readable aspect of it constituting the intelectual content i.e. name / brand / data / metadata.

    Also of note the 42 months authority of the wild beast is half the 'lean years' of Joseph of Egypts famine dream exposition. The dream was offered to Joseph in the form of a riddle. There is an overt compendium.

    It is not reliant on modern technology the nazis force branded people. The Empire of Rome could have forced tattoos on conquoered nations by which to trade. However it was not likely always practical or viable with enough return on investment. The polling for taxation with the avaliability of modern tech would likely have made it a consideration for the ancient empires should it have been avaliable. A brand also ostenciably constitutes ownership.

    The actual final form/s of the mark are relevant as is the associated 'man' and dynamic of the authority, the form of the 'wild beast' the constituent meaning of the triple figured numerological code. They are all relevant as proving recognisable aspects. Although compared to the 'real world dynamic' of a tangible system for trade through additions to the human body they are all relevant 'wallpaper' as such comparative to a real world dynamic the details are relevant prophetic meta data.
     
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    Daniel 3:1-6


    Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar the king made an image of gold that was 60 cubits high and 6 cubits wide. He set it up on the plain of Duʹra in the province of Babylon. Then King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar sent word to assemble the satraps, prefects, governors, advisers, treasurers, judges, magistrates, and all the administrators of the provinces to come to the inauguration of the image that King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar had set up. So the satraps, prefects, governors, advisers, treasurers, judges, magistrates, and all the administrators of the provinces assembled for the inauguration of the image that King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar had set up. And they stood in front of the image that Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar had set up. The herald loudly proclaimed: “You are commanded, O peoples, nations, and language groups, that when you hear the sound of the horn, pipe, zither, triangular harp, stringed instrument, bagpipe, and all the other musical instruments, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar has set up. Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into the burning fiery furnace.


    When Daniel was captive in Babylon there was an attempt to force him and his companions to prostrate themselves before an idol of gold. Strangely some translations translate the size of the idol into more modernly used measurement units such as imperial and metric.

    New Living Translation

    King Nebuchadnezzar made a gold statue ninety feet tall and nine feet wide and set it up on the plain of Dura in the province of Babylon.


    Clearly the numerological relevance was lost on some translators of the size of the idol in cubits measured at 60 high and 6 wide. Many objects and statues mentioned in scripture are not referenced by thier physical dimensions. The dimensions have relevance to the 666 prophesy. If nothing else it identifies, by association the specific problem of the mark of the beast.That being idolatry.


    Daniel's prophetic vision as recorded in chapter 8 of that book is a kind of abreviated version of Revelation. Several aspects show relevance.


    Daniel 8;23-25


    And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings. And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in a wonderful way he will cause ruin, and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of the holy ones. And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand.



    The emphasised comments in Daniel are strangely mixed statements. 'In a wonderful way he will cause ruin' this is a very unusual expression. Likewise 'according to his insight he will cause deception' in a similar way is an odd turn of phrase.


    The same strange mixed quality can be read at Rev 16

    Revelation 16:13


    And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.



    The entity which is being described in strangely mixed terms in Daniel's prophesy is the same entity issuing 'unclean inspired' expressions in Rev 16:13


    The term 'unclean inspired' is equally odd.



    These statements from both prophesies relate to the specific government issuing the protocol 666.


    If the mark of the beast is technological it would likely give rise to spurious but brilliant sounding societal claims.


    For instance if every human being were implanted with a device that could be tracked by GPS, the claim could be made that 'all crime could be ended'. The location of any human being during a rape, robbery or murder would be known. During a time of financial instbility (War, Famine ect) crime would esculate out of control.


    What kind of intellectual argument could a person raise against a claim to end all crime at a time of such difficulty ?


    Claims such as these could be described as 'unclean inspired' expressions. An 'insightfully deceptive' way to bring order through ending free humanity. There is described as being three of these.


    Aside from crime the recent attempts to instigate a Covid 19 track and trace system could also be incorperated in the same technological implant. That would enable a control for disease transmission during pestilence.


    A third aspect might be the allowance to make the tracking data volutarily avaliable to the public for thier own use. A mistrustfull husband might always know his wifes location or a parent worried or mistrustful of thier child could surveil movements.


    At a time when the world is thrown into massive chaos a tech upgrade to human 2.0 would be extremely difficult to make civil liberty type arguements against. Especially when violent insurgent groups are also likely to reject this kind of authoritarianism; yet provide a public relations framework, with which to characterise non compliant people as criminally minded disease spreading theives and murderers. Thus in a 'wonderful way' with 'insight' and 'unclean inspiration'. Peace, Law & Order.


    The underlying reality remains.


    Any government which needed to physically change a human being in order to rule has failed in the premise of its task. It could not rule humanity, it failed and so it required additional technology to add to the human body. It couldn't rule humanity 1. So human 2.0


    God's way is to require the individual to make changes to themselves.
     
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    If there is to be emnity between God's seed and Satan's seed then we can make a contrast. Jehovah many times spoke of wanting us to take His mark on our hand and forehead. This was in a spiritual sense by taking up His ways and teachings as Authority in our lives.
    Due 6:8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

    To take the mark of the Beast is to adopt the Beasts ways and teachings as Authority in our lives. Daniel 7:23 we see the Beast wants to devour and crush the whole earth. This shows a Globalist agenda. Do we not see a Globalist agenda taking place all over the earth? Do we remember the Babylon statue of Nebuchadnezzar who was a world power and the statue represented world powers to come after him until the kingdom comes? Do we remember God puts it into Babylons heart to give its power up to the Beast and in turn the Beast devours her who is called babylon which is the final and the last world power? Do we not see America being eaten alive right now by a Globalist agenda?
    America will soon not be regarded as a world power.
    Are we taking note or taking no note?

    Remember when Jesus said "Get behind me Satan because you dont think thoughts of God but those of men"? The number 666 is a man's number. It's man's way of rule completely apart from God's.
    We see a completely ungodly way of ruling today and it's only heating up.

    I will tell you this. The temple has been measured. The 24 elders have been accounted for inside the temple. The 2 witnesses came, exposed and tortured the Beast for 3.5 years. The Beast has overpowered and killed the 2 witnesses and began to rule.
    The 24 elders are kept from this time period of the Beast's rule for 1,260, which is an hour of test, a trampling by the nations, days of darkness.

    We have 36 more months to go before God has His "holy city" completley refined and says "Come up here" and the tables turn on the Beast. The Beast is stripped of its power and its given to God's proven people(Daniel 7).
    Remember the illustration Jesus gave of the man taking the lower position at the wedding and then waiting to be told to "come up here" to the better table and be honored? -When Gkd says "Come up here" it's an invitation to His table.
    Jehovah says:
    "At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind,’ declares the Sovereign LORD."
    The "Come up here" is the moment the tables start turning on the Beast and the wicked. (37 months from now). It's the time God's calvary punishes all those who took the mark of the Beast, adopting its ways and teaching in their lives. I'm talking about Gods calvary not the beasts horde of locusts.

    Note: Joel 1 is about the beast's locusts.
    Joel 2 is God's calvary. The subheadings are wrong in the Bible. The confusion is because the locusts and Gods calvary come back to back.

    Now that we are on "Riders" I will give a quick explanation of the riders. Matthew 24 Jesus describes the 4 horseman to watch out for in the same order as Revelation. He said many will come in my name and decieve many(White horseman). You will here of wars and rumors of wars (red horseman). Foot shortages, earthquakes (black horseman) and many will be killed on account of my name(pale horseman). He also said these are a beginning of birth pains but the end is not yet.
    Basically Jesus said these signs are Braxton Hicks contractions getting ready for birth. The generation that see all these things take place one after another after another,Ike real contractions, won't pass away until they see the birth of the Kingdom.

    Lsts take the black horseman for example. The black horseman carries scales because he is going on conquering his own sense of fairness, justice and equality. Sound like 'Black lives matter Inc." & Antifa messaging because it's a Globalist agenda, the Beasts agenda.
    "A days wage for a loaf of bread". This is hyperinflation which causes famines(no real shortage of food on earth). This comes from bad government and its mismanagement aka communist government.
    "Don't hurt the oil and wine" is just hypocrisy as if they really care while all their destruction is done under the disguise of "Love". This horseman has been riding throughout history but we really see it's push of socialism/ communist type rule all over the world causing sudden changes in countries just like an earth quake shakes things up and leaves things devastated.

    We all need to put ourselves 1000% under Jesus. Jehovah says to Jesus "sit at my right hand until I put all your enemies under your feet" to rule them. We don't want to be an enemy of Jesus but subject ourselves to him. An enemy of Jesus needing to be refined under judgment/ going through the fire of the great Tribulation are the great crowd. They are the ones who need to make changes washing their robes clean in the blood of the Lamb. They are not given white robes and their robes aren't clean until they subject themselves to Christ.
    We love Jehovah our Father but we gotta go through the gate to get to the Father. The gate is Jesus.. This is the process He wanted. The Jews rejected this process and wanted to continue belonging only and directly to the Father. Jesus said those who my Father had(Jewish nation) He has given to me. To believe in Jesus is to entrust yourself to him. The Greek word for believe means to entrust yourself to them. (John 14:1)
    This is why Stephen prayed to Jesus "I entrust my spirit to you" before he was stoned to death.
    Jesus also said "anyone who believes(entrusts) in me will have life in them and I will resurrect them on the last day."

    I'm just stressing the importance of Jesus to gain life. The old Testament was "call on the name of Jehovah to be saved". The New Testament is "call on the name of Jesus to be saved". Jehovah passed us to His son to complete the job of gaining life.
     
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    Greetings brother...

    Yes, very good point.

    Good observations brothers...

    Remember, the statue set up by Nebuchadnezzar represented apostasy. By prostrating oneself before the image, that would represent idolatry.

    Since we know the image was three-dimensional, it would have measured 60x6x6 just as the Washington monument measures 555x55x55.

    Now when you factor in 2 Thessalonians 2, we know the apostasy comes first, once the beast is revealed. The MOL is the wild beast that will be revealed once the apostasy comes. That apostasy is the lie that draws some away from the covenant.

    "Because of rebellion, the Lord’s people and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground." Dan 8:12

    "With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him." Dan 11:32

    "Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction." 2Th 2:3

    And as I mentioned before, king Solomon's apostasy is also represented by his 666 talents of gold that were contrary to the Lord's command.

    "The weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents." 1Kings 10:14

    In my opinion, it is impossible that the mark is technological. It has nothing to do with apostasy. Besides, 99% of people would never take something under the skin because everyone already believes it's the mark of the beast. I do not see a tracking device or anything of like as apostasy. Our cell phones can be tracked, and we already pay with cards. It would make no difference if it were under our skin. We could use our fingerprints; it wouldn't matter. That's not apostasy...

    Remember, at the end, the beast removes the daily sacrifice; Today, that is the gospel.

    "“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days." Dan 12:11

    "Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise—the fruit of lips that openly profess his name. And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased." Heb 13:15-16

    The locusts are actually Jehovah's army, aren't they? Could you share how you separate the statement "my great army" from "the locust swarm?" Thanks brother...

    “I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten—the great locust and the young locust, the other locusts and the locust swarm my great army that I sent among you." Joel 2:25

    I have come to understand those refined by fire are the faithful still holding on to their faith after the fall of the daily sacrifice. These are the third that pass through the fire from heaven from the beast.

    "So that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." 1Pt 1:7

    "And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call upon my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’” Zech 13:9

    "He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, and they will bring offerings in righteousness to the Lord." Mal 3:3

    "But he knows the way that I take; when he has tried me, I shall come out as gold." Job 32:10

    Etc...

    Amen brother...

    Joshua
     
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    Judges 7:
    5-7

    So he had the people go down to the water. Then Jehovah said to Gidʹe·on: “Every one that laps up some of the water with his tongue just as a dog laps, you will set him by himself, also every one that bends down upon his knees to drink.” And the number of those lapping with their hand to their mouth turned out to be three hundred men. As for all the rest of the people, they bent down upon their knees to drink water, Jehovah now said to Gidʹe·on: “By the three hundred men who did the lapping I shall save you people, and I will give Midʹi·an into your hand As for all the other people, let them go each one to his place.”
     
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    At the first edition release in 2001, Newsweek called the book "explosive"..

    In February 2001, an Alien Tort Claims Act claim was filed in U.S. federal court against IBM for allegedly providing the punched card technology that facilitated the Holocaust, and for covering up German IBM subsidiary Dehomag's activities...

    "backed by exhaustive research, Black's case is simple and stunning." It added: Black clearly demonstrates that Nazi Germany employed IBM Hollerith punch-card machines to perform critical tasks in carrying out the Holocaust and the German war effort … Black establishes beyond dispute that IBM Hollerith machines significantly advanced Nazi efforts to exterminate Jewry.”

    IBM claimed it does not have any other information about the company during its World War II period or the operations of Dehomag, as it argued most documents were destroyed or lost during the war

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

    IBM 'dealt directly with Holocaust organisers'

    Author says US firm had control of Polish subsidiary

    Newly discovered documents from Hitler's Germany prove that the computer company IBM directly supplied the Nazis with technology which was used to help transport millions of people to their deaths in the concentration camps at Auschwitz and Treblinka, a controversial Holocaust expert claims in a new edition of book published later this week.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/29/humanities.highereducation
     
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    Unanticipated uses of technologies by a totalitarian government who used technological aids
    to exterminate god's servants.



    "Hollerith codes ...Jehovah's Witnesses were coded 2. Known as "Bible Researchers," Jehovah's Witnesses were singled out for their abstinent refusal to register for the German draft and their Christian rejection of anti-Semitism. They were rewarded with a greater level of maltreatment than almost any prisoner other than a Jew coded 8. To relieve their daily agony of beatings and camp killings, Jehovah's Witnesses needed only to sign a declaration denouncing their church and submit to the military draft. This they steadfastly declined to do. For their courage and conscience, Jehovah's Witnesses were tortured and slaughtered

    Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals, and Jews.

    Hollerithmachines were needed from the outset to code and segregate each type of inmate


    Jehovah's Witnesses registered at Buchenwald, they were required to write "career criminal" on the
    front of their Personal Inmate Card as a welcoming humiliation ritual.


    Their real occupation was noted on the back.
    Those who balked at fisting themselves as criminals were severely beaten"

    - Edwin Black
     
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    In his book IBM and the Holocaust Edwin Black's observes that without IBM's machines the holocaust would not have been possible. As technological tools become more powerful their uses are determined by the wielding hands.
     
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    Sense and Sensibility

    In the first century christians refused to sprinkle incense on an altar to ceasar for which they would otherwise be put to death.

    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003406


    Early Christians also refused to burn incense to acknowledge the “divinity” of the Roman emperor, even though it could cost them their lives. (Luke 4:8; 1 Corinthians 10:14, 20) In view of the idolatrous use of incense in those days,

    it is not surprising that the early Christians would not even engage in the incense trade. - WTBTS


    If christians had been asked to tatoo ceasar's name or the name of his government on their body and could only qualify to buy food to eat by displaying it, to demonstrate allegence, how do we imagine they would respond ?

    Lev 19:28....YOU must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am Jehovah.

    The mosaic law forbade tatooing, yet the 1st century believers were not under the law. It is a conflgration of sensibilities that it would be idolatry to eat according to a bodily attached representation of an worldly government. What then if the tatoo acomplished a compiling and catalogueing function ? King David was in error when he counted Israel.

    There is no law against counting people.

    There is no written law against cloning people.

    There is no written law against creating a human animal hybrid in a lab.

    Technology allows the compounding and conflagration of elements for outcomes that should provoke anticipated responces in believers and mitigate any notion of Jehovah or Jesus needing to counsel for every weird perverted course of action provided oppurtunity for by developing technology.

    https://www.rehumanizeintl.org/post/fetal-cells-in-the-cosmetics-food-and-medical-industries

    'In the food and beverage industry, biotech company Senomyx uses the cell line HEK-293 for research and development of new flavor additives.

    Ajinomoto, Nestle, and Firmenich. Other companies — such as Kraft, Solae, Campbell Soup, and Pepsi have changed or cancelled their contracts with Senomyx to ensure that no fetal cells were used to develop their products.'


    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/resta...lping-to-make-your-diet-pepsi-sweeter-6605629

    'Asked about the action alert, Rosenberg said, "We don't discuss details of our research, but you won't find anything on our website about HEK293." I asked Rosenberg if Senomyx had a position on stem cell research. "We've never been asked that," she replied, "We don't have a position on anything.'

    King David wouldn't drink water that men had put themselves at risk for. How would he feel about some soup or soda that had been developed using dead baby parts ?

    There is no law against drinking water and there is no law against soup and soda.

    2 Samuel 23:16....At that the three mighty men forced their way into the camp of the Phi·lisʹtines and drew water from the cistern of Bethʹle·hem that is at the gate and came carrying and bringing it to David and he did not consent to drink it

    For Gideon, men were separated for the way in which they drank water.


    How about they aquired the water through a tatoo of the name of the philistine government ?


    Any tool is in use, constitutes a technology. Use of fire is a technology. The tatooing of ancient times was a primitive technology. The advancement of technology makes an allowance for the addition of compounding elements which are cumalative.
     
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    HUMAN 2.0

    HUMAN 666

    TRANSHUMAN

    The 666 propesy is very famous, generally, culturally. So it is surprising that over 3000 people in Sweden are voluntarily being microchipped for mere convenience. How many would do so if gaining life's essentials depended upon it ? i.e. Being put under compulsion.

    Knowledge of something is not the same thing as investing faith in something.

    The technological mark of the beast does not exist in a cultural vacuum. The culture in which it exists is the transhumanist movement.


    https://www.theguardian.com/small-b...preneur-who-wants-to-put-a-chip-in-your-brain


    “My hope is that within 15 years we can build sufficiently powerful tools to interface with our brains,” Johnson says. “Can I increase my rate of learning, scope of imagination, and ability to love? Can I understand what it’s like to live in a 10-dimensional reality? Can we ameliorate or cure neurological disease and dysfunction?”

    The transhumanist movement anticipates the inevitable merging of humans with technology from Mary Shellys Frankenstein to The Bionic Man fiction writers have anticipated the possibilities also.

    Many people have observed the development of cell phone technology has effectively turned humans into cyborgs in all but the implanting of the tech. Famous advocates of transhumanism include Ray Kurzweil the former head of Google reasearch and entrepreneur Elon Musk.

    People all over the world have benefitted from hip replacement surgery the addition of materials to the human body is not in and of itself a problem. Dental work a brace to straighten teeth. The possibilty of improving peoples lives who are severly disabled also increases as technology increases. There is the possibility that people suffering paralisis might be able to regain the use of limbs, even causeing the blind to see again with optical interface brain chips.


    It doesnt take much projection to realise that transhumanism begins to offer the same remedies that Jesus Christ offered during his earthly walk. Many modern christians assume unbelievers do not have hopes of everlasting life. Transhumanism even offers a variety of possibilities of achieving this. One through through an event called 'the Singularity'.


    https://gizmodo.com/what-is-the-singularity-and-will-you-live-to-see-it-5534848

    The singularity is the event comparible to the birth of Christ for futurists.It marks a point in time when computer technology advances to the point where its complexity is comparible to the human brain so that the possibility of downloading consciousness is considered a possibility for them. It is a common recreation of the transhumanist community to attempt to predict the exact date.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/google-futurist-ray-kurzweil-live-forever-2015-4

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/781136/IMMORTALITY-google-ray-kurzweil-live-forever

    Google’s Director of Engineer Ray Kurzweil believes that we are little more than a decade away from taking major steps towards immortality.

    The tech specialist, who has long supported the notion of immortality, says that medical advancements and improved technology in the coming 12 years will see humans being given the option to live forever.


    Nanotechnology is another percieved transhumainst route to evelasting life.

    The question here is not the likelyhood that transhumanists will be able to achieve thier goals.

    The question is for everyday people becoming more and more reliant on technology whether the 666 cultural trope from an ancient superstition holds more weight than the technological promises they are experiencing and relying upon day to day. Especially when those technologies are constantly seen to be, and experienced as moving forward.


    In fact acceptance of a mark would for some hold a similar social status as a christian baptism marking a point in their life when they let go of old superstitions and commit to embracing the true modern scientific view of the world over invisible fantasies. Especially when this offering solutions at a time of great war and chaos, when obtaining lifes neccesities depends upon it, and with an eventual promise of everlasting life.

    The mark of the beast to futurists and transhumanists is one step on the road to the same promises Jesus offered.


    Only more real.
     
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    RE; Satoshi Nakamoto.

    The fact that the identity of the 'person[/s]' who created the most extensive revolution in monetary exchange is unknown should provoke more curiosity than is presently evident.



    Whilst i guess most people have heard of Bitcoin / Blockchain and whilst we have a name, id be surprised if half as many people are aware that the named creator of Bitcoin for whom they give the name 'Satoshi Nakamoto' is actually an anonymous unknown person / entity.

    Its perhaps only a very interesting reflection at our end of the hallway of history.

    I don't own any crypto currency / wallets. It always seems to have the 'auspice' of beating the money lenders as a tool of freedom, as you say, there is potential skulduggery a foot. If there is the means to connect all trade on one ledger through the numerological tech of one man whose identity is unknown, this has unmistakably recognisable dynamics.

    The identity 'Satoshi Nakamoto' probably somewhat of a red herring in specific terms, but what you allude to has to be an area of consideration.

    We literally live in a time where human processes are governed by calculations. for those who hath or the hath's not.

    It would be very easy to misrepresent a citizen who refuses to be constantly monitored by a bodily device as one planning misdeeds.

    The summer holiday camps awaits. ...........Welcome to the FEMA motel

    At a time of war, chaos, crime, disease, financial collapse the idea that a UN led government would not seek to track and trace every citizen is counter intuitive on its face.

    Of course they would, they just attempted it over an enhanced flu virus and some enhanced statistics.


    The COVID 19 siege has the character of Rome surrounding Jerusalem for the first temporary instance 'as the sign' before it retreats and returns to devastate.

    Of the Empires of history featured in Daniel's visions and the Revelation to John, the factor which would most distinguish a modern attempt at complete world domination by a political sovereign is technology. The ability to communicate instantaneously around the world and deploy troops and resources anywhere on the globe point A to point B in 48 hours. This has never existed for any of those empires.

    Jehovah prevented it from Nimrod.

    The ability to disable financial transactions anywhere in the world means the ability to disarm any regional military power combined with the ability to track every individual its purely a case of Orwell style game theory. It is a strategic inevitability.


    Tic, Tac,Toe.

    Nimrod's culture was unified through common language and dispersed through varied language. If Nimrod had the ability to track every person and control their means of life through trade transaction he would have been able to overcome the population language dispersal.


    The power of an individual to perpetrate destruction increases with technological development.

    Eventually available technology will develop to the point where any individual could engage in mass destruction. Nikola Tesla said he could crack the planet into two pieces. The development of his technologies have been fairly successfully suppressed but eventually people would develop it for themselves. Outside of large commercial or military research and development. As soon as the patent office registers anything looking like Tesla over-unity mechanism the government agency swoops in arrests the poor garage lab developer for engaging in 'acts of terrorism' for attempting to develop 'weapons' (free energy). Scares the crap out of them and then detain and releases them on a signed agreement to cease and desist r&d.


    For students of prophesy the interpretation of symbolism has multiple possible outcomes.

    The purpose of encoding the meaning in symbolism is to veil it. What many interpreters of prophesy have failed to grasp is real world dynamics do not have multiple possible outcomes. Jehovah's Babel intervention is based on that fact. The interpreters prerogative to associate, or not the prophesy with the real world track and tracing of humans and their financial transactions is a choice of interpretation. The fact that it is an inevitability of human activity is not a choice of interpretation.


    Disassociating the prophesy with the tic, tac, toe of human control does not dismiss its inevitability. Most interpreters to not display that level of understanding.

    If a prophesy interpreter were to say....

    “I do not believe the mark of the beast is literally tangible from an anatomical human stand point, although I realise anatomical track and trace is an inevitability of technological advance in a world not ruled by Jehovah.”

    That would illustrate prophetic interpretation in the department of credible understanding of the real world.

    The misgiving are the interpreters have a tendency to imagine disassociating the prophesy with human anatomy dismantles the tic, tack, toe of the inevitability of human 'track and trace', domination by force for humanity is the default option for a technologically advancing world which has rejected Christ's rule.

    Its a case of actually not being able to throw the baby out with the bath water.

    because the baby walks back in and microchips your arse.

     
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    MyPass


    Recently [2018] a scheme "the MyPass Initiative" was introduced in the city of Austin Texas, to microchip the homeless. Apparently they were paid $100 each for the privilege.

    Experimenting on the homeless is predatory to say the least, done in the guise of 'helping' can just as easily appear as charitable act/s. Perhaps even as Daniel's prophesy describes 'insightfully deceptive'.

    Could it be purely well intended ? A misguided but well intentioned attempt to help the homeless keep their id intact ?

    The literature produced concerning this event is steeped in deception. Associated with Harvard, the highest most esteemed institution of learning in the USA we can deduce the deception is intentional.

    "Another challenge that remains is similar to the one presented by physical documents: What do you do if you forget your password, or if you lose your phone? To answer this question, the MyPass Initiative held a service design week, in which designers were invited to consult with members of the homeless population, apparently to great success.......All these user testing efforts hopefully compose the foundation for an ideal, seamless system, in which people walk into clinics and employment offices without any concern for missing paperwork or IDs ....."

    The above excerpt from the article explains a digital data system for storing documents. Yet nowhere in the article does it explain how the digital versions are held by the homeless (experiment subject) for access. (bodily implanted microchip). The article artfully describes it as a 'low friction experience'. I.e. You swipe a body part like a contactless debit card.

    The subtlety is palpably disproportionate to the deception.

    Early on in the article the author describes the inconvenience and insecurity of storing social security cards in old filing cabinets, dresser draws and handbags. A bit strange, When did a homeless person ever suffer from problems with filing cabinets and bedroom units ?

    This exact phrase is also used early in the article. ".........chipping away at their patience and trust"

    N.L.P. Or neuro linguistic programing is a technique used to manipulate peoples behaviour with language. In the above article chipping people has been directly mentioned yet in a completely subversive manner. N.L.P. Is taught by lifestyle coaches and used by writers of the commercial advertising industry.

    Literally insight to perpetrate deception.

    It is easily possible to create a biometric ID for a homeless person using a fingerprint, fingerprint touchpad. Notice the article specifically states an emphasis on 'fictionless'. If it were something straight forward like that the article would state it plainly. Yet no explanation is made on the practical application of this technology only statements about filling cabinets and dressing tables for the homeless.

    There are other documents available at the Austin city local government website on MyPass which are equally devoid of detail.

    The irony here that the local city government attempting to help the homeless with documentation whilst attempting to hide, obscure, lose any documentation or what they are actually doing to the homeless. If it is difficult for the homeless to hold documentation how difficult would it be for them to lodge complaints about a predatory government scheme ?

    It is though narrative sources external to the official government where it is possible to find reporting on what they were up to. Although if you carefully consider what is actually being said, it slowly comes into view.

    With an emphasis on fictionless.

    Contactless.

    https://datasmart.ash.harvard.edu/news/article/its-blockchain-austins-new-digital-id-system
     
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    "....Given the exponential advances in microprocessors and smartphones in his lifetime, he insists the biotech industry will figure out a solution by then. For this reason, Saraev, like any number of young, optimistic, tech-associated men, believes that if he takes the correct preventative steps now, he might well live forever....."

    https://webcache.googleusercontent....re-death-longevity/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
     
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    Recent federalist article on transhumanist influence and intentions

    Mark Zuckerberg Is Planting The First Church Of The Metaverse


    "....The Church of Facebook is set to capture the human soul in silicon..."

    "...alongside teleporting holograms. He predicts that within the next five years — around the same time Elon Musk hopes to achieve digital telepathy through brain chips...."

    "....in 1976 the first Apple computer went on sale for $666.66. Despite the cuddly Steve Wozniak’s insistence that it was just a fluke...."

    "...Suddenly, the “Spirit cooking” sorceress materializes in a red dress. “I believe the art of the future is art without objects,” Abramović narrates. “There is always this great ideal of immortality...."


    https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/06/mark-zuckerberg-is-planting-the-first-church-of-the-metaverse/







     

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