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    OK we have all seen the cute little babys with wings. and the pretty female angels with wings.and read in the bible about angels having wings!

    but do angels really have wings?
    why would they need them? as sports they can go any were in the bink of an eye. is their air in heaven? flesh and blood can't inherit gods kingdom so how can wings work unless the angels are physical beings with physical air?

    the ark of gods covenant had cherubs with outstretched wings.
    what's more you always see angels with white feathered wings!
    are angels related to birds? or are birds related to angels.

    the bible speaks about being safe under Jehovah's wings! but does god really need wings?

    OK now don't jump in all at once! do angels have real wings or is that appearance simply for man's benefit as a figure of flight?
     
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    Hi jehovahisgod,

    You really do like to stir it up.

    Spiritual talk?

    Physical talk?

    Have you seen a angel?

    Do you know their makeup?

    Silly boy is it not obvious to you that no matter what their makeup is that:

    Galatians 1:
    8 However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed.


    While the faithful angels are just that Faithful what are we to conclude? Angels are a creation that worships our Almighty Father just like us.

    Whether they have real wings or not is not the real question. What does the living word of God say about them? They have wings.

    Does Jehovah have wings? Psalm 91 says yes.

    In what way? We do not know. But the living word says what it says.

    Have a nice day.

    Joe
     
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    OK the bible says they have wings so let us just go with that! if I gave you a whole box of crayons you would probably use only the black and white ones!
     
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    'Wings' in prophecy can represent covering or protection.

    Perhaps the angel wings are symbolic?
     
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    A few words to tell you about a biblical play on words that I just noticed in a book :

    "and move on through Judah. He will actually flood and pass over. Up to the neck he will reach. And the outspreading of his wings must occur to fill the breadth of your land, O Im·man′u·el!â€￾ - Is.8:8

    The Hebrew word kanaf for wings can also mean : bank, side, rim or bit, hem, skirt, corner (1 Sam24:5; Zec8:23).

    From here... ;)
     
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    I'm going to guess that angels express themselves to us with wings for our understanding..

    its like the living creature mentioned in revelation and Jesus depicted as a lion. its for our understanding.

    if not then heaven has air of some kind and the gods are dependant on their body's to move about.

    I tend to support that in reality spirit creatures transdiminsion travel in the blink of an eye and have to need of wings arms or legs although when the bible speaks about god or angels.
    it uses the terms of a human body and other animals to describe the angels!

    and horses do you think that god and Jesus rides literal horses? again its a way to explain something to our understanding..
     
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    Yes, I agree, but have nothing interesting to comment :) We'll find out the reality of the spiritual world someday, if Jehovah wants us to understand.
     
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    single cell you comment is interesting! it the whole reason I ask totally non important questions!

    to keep us entertained while we sit in the backseats with our colouring book while Jesus drives!

    by the way when you was a kid did you used to colour in the old black and white literature?
     
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    Jig that was hilarious!
     
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    ange

    Angels have wings.....well, the "higher ups" Do.

    The bible clearly explains the seraphs and the four living creatures flying around and above Jehovah's throne.
    I do not think they need them, However I do think its Jehovahs way of dignifying them....much in the same way an army officer is dignifed according the the number of badges that shows their rank and service.

    Jehovah himself posseses (spelling) unspeakable and uninmaginable beauty that could be described as wings, I suppose. But as far as certain angelic ranks...they most surely have wings...not nessesarily for flying, but as a form of dignity that has been bestowed upon them.

    It also appears that these "wings" serve as a form of protection for the ones who serve so close to the throne for the ones who have more than one pair of wings. Those that have 6pair of wings... 2are used to cover their body. 2 for covering the feet. while the remaining two where used for flying...or hovering. Jehovahs presence is so powerful that it appears that the 6wing(ers) are in need of some degree of protection out of fear of being totally consumed from being in the very presence of Jehovah.
     
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    Hi Gabriel,

    I enjoyed your comment and thoughts on this subject. There are definitely different kinds of angels and spirit creations. And it makes sense the their coverings would be appropriate to what they do.

    Hey jehovahisgod - sorry if I sounded a bit snippity - I like all the colors in the crayon box. Sometimes the black and white ones are the ones needed though. Right? lol

    Have a nice day.
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    belongingtoJah heres a major (((BONE CRUSHER HUG))) coming right at ya:)
     
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    Hey Gabrielle,

    That would be nice - perhaps sometime in the future we will meet in person.

    May you and your lovely wife have peace.

    Joe
     
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    now as proof that angels do not always have wings. I present the following reminder about being careful in your ministry because some of you might be entertaining an angel unaware!

    if they all had wings you would know it was an angel instead of the bag lady asking for a can of food to eat.

    some time ago I posted an experience were I met such an angel as a man with a will work for a meal sign.

    I passed him will getting on the freeway when I reached the other side their was the same man at the exit!

    I started to go by again but something told me go back and surprise him!

    I backed up and gave him $5 which was a decent meal back in 1981 when this happened!

    the man thanked me but then I blew his mind for him! sir I said I drive a bi turbo 300 zx and their ain't no way you hitched here faster than I was driving!

    tell Jesus I recognized you brother! I know an angel test when I see one!
    the man started to protest but realized I could see past the disguise.

    he just smiled and said good job how did you know? I said hey your lack of a shadow is a dead give away! I remembered that bible scripture and I could just feel something both times I passed by.

    he did not say anything but he waved good bye as he just faded into invisible and was gone!

    since then I have seen several more of the in the last 24 years.they have no shadows! or they cast a shadow that's different than normal..

    that's you believe it or not for the day.
     
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    Interesting story you go there, Jig. I've always wondered about that bible scripture that speaks of "entertaining angels unaware". Im not sure if they materialize upon the earth anymore. From biblical accounts....when they materialize its usually because they have a mission or something of great importance. But lets just say that yes....that was indeed an angel holding "I will work for food" sign. what exactly do you think his mission was?

    I tell ya what buddy. If I was an angel and it was me you had seen, and you say "tell Jesus I recognized you brother! I know an angel test when I see one!" I likely would have started laughing hysterically and pointed over your shoulder. by the time you looked to see what it was and turn back around to look for me, I would be GONE.
     
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    hey Gabriel it was a test! mine after my being cleansed from addiction and getting an opportunity to do some of those cool gifts I believe Jesus wanted to test and remind me..

    to practice in the real world what I was learning to talk about! and brother I almost failed that test.

    Evan though I had enough money to buy him a meal I actually drove by twice in apathy!

    but that holy spirit poked me the second time and I knew it was a test
    and I was bound and determined to pass it.

    and too jest just a little! that was the second time within 2 years that I met up with one!

    and friend their are plenty of them among us I would have to guess that Jehovah has 1 angel down here
    for every demon down here!

    just in case a demon decides to go beyond the heavenly law their will be a good spirit to prevent it..

    but I don't believe in personal guardian angels but I do believe their are angels that watch over territorys like spiritual police..

    the one other time I met up with one
    was extraordinary very much so the event was a physical manifestation of a Jesus figure I told this one before but I'm not afraid to tell it again.

    I was in the drug reform camp and I knew next day was scripture test day I stayed up studying so I could avoid the penalty of writing 25 times each the versus.

    well my drug ruined brain could not retain the first one and I prayed to god before bed for some special help..

    well at about 2 am the light came on and a young man dressed in work clothes with a tool belt woke me.. hey I hear your having memory problems come with me he said..

    I stood up and went to follow and I found myself lead to the school room locked with a large chain..

    he escorted me right through the door like the movies then pulled out a pointer of light and wrote with it on the board..

    he said repeat after me so I did so as he wrote. I watched as the clock got latter and latter and I worried that any minute somebody would find me not in my room and that means back to jail!

    well after the lesson it dawned on my mind hey this dude is a carpenter and not no ordinary one either.

    I said wait a minute your Jesus ! and he smiled a big smile and said back to your room with you.

    I was suddenly back in my room in bed and I just shook my head wow what a dream!

    but then it dawned on me that I knew every one of the memory vs just fine..

    well I got up turned on my light and went and woke up the house leader and told him what just happened.

    he of course thought I was on drugs after all I was in drug rehab..

    ahhh but after breakfast when we went to class and he passed out the scripture test to everyone.

    there was a lot of whispering and laughs the teacher said alright what's so funny?

    a young man pointed at the board at the 25 scriptures written by the angel! my teacher tripped out.

    walking over to the board he touched it only to discover that it was well burnt into the slate..

    well a certain rehab in Florida has 25 memory versus on a blackboard
    written at 2 am by a vision of Jesus what more can I say.

    very cool dream very cool indeed!
    24 years latter and like that black board the boot program is burnt into my mind...

    its called the boot program because for some reason that god knows .
    once you memorize it a renewing of the mind takes place..

    but the boot program is a long long thread from long ago.

    anyway angels aren't all that uncommon on earth. someday I will tell you about brother Taylor who was an anointed brother.

    a very cool angel story for another day.
     

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