Autophagy, Keytosis and Fasting

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    Autophagy, Ketosis and Fasting

    The practice of fasting has come into secular fashion recently with the general health benefits being exposited as an almost miracle 'cure all' process. Fasting health centers have opened and have such success as to make the traditional medical professionals balk with jealousy. Other medical professionals accept the general benefits of the practice.

    When considering the scientific processes the human body goes through during periods of fasting and the effects of these processes relative to scripture it becomes fascinating and lends rationale to the inclusion of this practice for the ancient world, more and more commonly why it has become so popular with modern secular people.

    The process, although including weight loss effects, goes way beyond only that.

    Some folk have opted to engaging in intermittent fasting instead of selective food dieting. For which there are a variety of options. Alternate day fasting, OMAD or one meal a day fasting also known as the warrior diet. Window eating (which does not pertain to sitting in a window and eating where passers by can observe). It involves eating within a restricted 8 or 6 hour time period.

    If the process is used for weight loss one of the benefits is that people can continue to eat some of the foods they enjoy the most, appreciating them even more and still obtain their objectives. It also can dispense with calorie counting which some find leads to pedantic and obsessiveness.

    Also fasting with consideration to modern eating disorders might cast anorexia and bulimia in a completely different light. It may be possible that the harsh self imposed guilt abstenance eating disorders are extreme reactive attempts where people are instinctively attempting to gain the benefits of fasting yet without having a cultural reference or traditional background, as such going awry. There may be elements of this happening with some disorders. Some people who have these disorders are likely more in touch with their instinct and spirit than medical science can perceive. Explaining perhaps why seemingly sensitive and consciencious people are often victims of these kinds of conditions.

    For a Christian believer fasting offers the possibility to make changes to thier physiology without contravening Christ's advice to 'not concern yourselves with what you are eating..' which obsessive deiting and calorie counting might 'Martha-rise' your brain. (Do this, do that, .....dont eat this, eat that, ism)

    The human body is configured to run like a sugar (carbohydrate) burning engine. Whilst the body has access to sugar it will not burn or utilise stored fat resources. The body enters a state known as Ketosis when sugars are no longer easily available and thats when fat stores are utilised. Fasting is the quickest way for the body to reach a state of Ketosis.

    There are other ways such as avoiding foods which trigger insulin hormones (i.s. Carbohydrates, sugars) Ketosis ends when a new source of sugar is reintroduced.

    Another interesting effect of fasting is the production of human growth hormone. Starving the body of food for periods encourages the body to produce a muscle building responce to prevent or slow physical weakening. Some athletes engage in periods of fasted exercise to utilise this physiological response.

    Beyond weight loss another astonishing effect of fasting is a process called Autophagy.

    After a period of several hours without food the body begins searching for dead cell matter and begins using it for fuel and getting rid of it. This process is known as Autophagy and has been utilised as a 'cure all' technique to treat chronic and even terminal health problems.

    For a bible believing Christian these hugely impressive effects can be recognised as the kinds of design brilliance which are the hidden signature of Jehovah which can be read scientifically in his works and creations. Additionally the Watchtower legal department is no novice to legal medical challenges with blood issues being perhaps the most intensely scrutinised area of medical related practices in any modern religious context. Leaving unexplained lack of exegesis

    The reason for why there is no perceptable general culture of fasting modernly among Jehovah's witnesses belies the sense of modernism being superior to the ancient world which may be the identical attitude which prevents many modern people for considering the relevance of the ancient world. Some religions do have a practice of fasting for specific festivals and the Watchtowers logical reductive attitude toward the practice amounting to 'you don't really need to do that anymore' may not reach a high enough standard of explanation or context for what is a spiritually and physiologically healthy practice proscribed and practice by the prophets and even by Christ who suffered no natural health defects. One of the additional attributes of fasting reported by secular practitioners is an enhanced clarity of mind and mental focus which may have been a benefit employed by Jesus during such times as his mental focus was being most forcefully challenged.

    There is no instruction for shutting eyes whilst in prayer, there is no instruction to spend time with other believers outside of arranged meetings. There is no regulated observation of the sabbath. To seek to find reasons why you don't need to close your eyes in prayer would be odd. Its a free choice for individual estimate of benefit. If a Christian were to seek scriptural support for why them didn't need to associate outside of organised meetings this also would seem odd. Again its a free choice. Perhaps the most significant parallel, that there is no regulated sabbath, is not intended to suggest deep and extended mental reflection separate from obtaining the basic means of life is no longer to be sought or practiced. All of these things are beneficial and can be engaged in at the estimated benefit of the individual. As such the Watchtower's exposition of the practice of fasting does not pass muster. As a practice which can be so healthful and helpful which is engaged in secularly for its shear practical benefits, and as something which can literally help a modern believer feel direct fellowship with the ancient sleeping faithful the possibilities and the freedom to engage deserves more attention from those who wish to boast the closest form of christianity to the first century.

    American Standard Version (ASV)


    Mark 2:17-19 And when Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of a physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.And John’s disciples and the Pharisees were fasting: and they come and say unto him, Why do John’s disciples and the disciples of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not? And Jesus said unto them, Can the sons of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.


    The typical WTBTS eschatology leans on these passages spoken by the Christ. In this instance it appears the practice of fasting was being used as a vainglorious attempt to claim superior peity over Christ. The questioners here actually do not deserve an answer. The gracious answer they recieve amounts to a dismissal of their objection in terms of

    'No, sorry we are celebrating'.

    The fact that Jesus dismisses them because they are exhibiting false piety doesn't reflect on the practice in the way WTBTS exposits, especially when you consider closely what Jesus said. Not only does Jesus include the aspect of celebration during this speech he also mentions health and healing proximately with fasting in the above passage.

    Famously he miraculously fed people and healed them at the same events.


    Mark 8;3

    and if I send them away fasting to their home, they will faint on the way; and some of them are come from far.


    Yet he states on the topic of fasting 'Whilst I am with you [them]'...... As the pharisees are not really undeserving of any answer at all, the answer that Jesus did provide was not meant as a general standard for general practice and this is obvious in the terms he states it. (special occasion)

    After Jesus was resurrected the apostles did re-engage fasting even when they had their own empowerment by the spirit to produce miraculous healings. As did Christ engage in it during his earthly walk.


    Acts 13:3 (ESV)

    Then after fasting and praying they laid their hands on them and sent them off.

    Acts 14:23

    And when they had appointed for them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they had believed.

    Acts 27:33

    And while the day was coming on, Paul besought them all to take some food, saying, This day is the fourteenth day that ye wait and continue fasting, having taken nothing.


    Other scriptures whilst not directly mentioning fasting clearly pertain to its direct relevance.

    Unless a mans anatomy has evolved since the first century so that his relationship between his belly and brain has moved on, then fasting remains relevant, deserving more consideration than WTBTS publications offer their readers.

    Romans 16:18

    For they that are such serve not our Lord Christ, but their own belly; and by their smooth and fair speech they beguile the hearts of the innocent.

    Philippians 3:19

    whose end is perdition, whose god is the belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.

    1 Corinthians 6:13

    Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall bring to nought both it and them. But the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body:

    2 Corinthians 11:27

    in labor and travail, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.

    2 Corinthians 6:5

    in stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in watchings, in fastings;

    There is no need to compell the practice on anyone. To not make known its potencial benefits and its historical benefits to the sleeping ones falls short

    Uncharacteristically sub-par......

    for the Fadefull & Desperate slave who often has been genuinely adept at recontextualising the practices of the faithful ancients in the light of scientific benefits more fully apparent in the modern age.

    https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-fasting-christian/
     
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