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    You are absolutely correct the melody was written in 1700 by Hayden. And the Melody has been used by many people. Now as to the Nazis if they knew and hated Jehovah's witnesses I'm just wondering why they took the melody and used it for their German national anthem?
     
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    Great question JIG and this is a brilliant idea you have...I love it!
     
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    As Satan is the ruler and runs the political world...my guess is He would would have been behind that move.
    A biography of some one who left the truth ...I read it decades ago .....explained how the truth or actually the bible Students were huge over in Germany at the start of the 1900s...it was the era of Russell ...there was a lot of love and warmth, they were set up like the first centuries congregations...each helped each other physically and financially...small Congs....some who had the need or perhaps the spirit Did go out and preach publicly but not all of them.
    Some just preached as Russell had direct to the butch baker and candlestick maker type of preaching...basically informal and to anyone they met.
    Then the war came...lots of confusion as to going to war etc....the truth got railroaded by Satan.........in Germany...that boy went on to become a CO in the states I think...and by his own words he became mean and nasty.
    Satan infiltrates in any way he can...and he does that as an angel of light.
    In that book I put up...apparently the German brothers didn’t like singing that hym because it reminded them of the German anthem....
    Hitler not only want to rid the Jews.... he also wanted to rid Germany of bible students as well.....he was controlled by Jehovah’s arch enemy ...
     
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    Moses died in the wilderness
    sorry JIG and my apologies...this is your very first post and I mistook it for your latest....but it got me reading that period of questioning.
    It doesn’t make sense that they would not get a resurrection ...because Moses died by Gods hand in the wilderness ....thus really there is as far as I can see no real scriptural belief or back up that if some die by Jehovah’s hand there is no resurrection...I know many still think that but I have not personally read that anymore for a very long time.
    Interesting that Russell always said those ones were still covered by the ransom..even Adam and Eve.
    He even stated that tho there were many who would die the second death at Armageddon because of will full actions....many still tho that die then......would only die the first death and would be resurrected into the judgement day.....and hence their resurrection was a resurrection of judgement...and should they fail in that they would experience the second death even tho a mere boy of 100 years evil would be called down on them ....

    Don’t know if this is true or not...personally I think it is a wait and see job...
     
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    Thank you everybody for your participation we're moving on to Exodus chapter 37.
    [1] And Bezaleel made the ark of shittim wood: two cubits and a half was the length of it, and a cubit and a half the breadth of it, and a cubit and a half the height of it:

    [2] And he overlaid it with pure gold within and without, and made a crown of gold to it round about.

    [3] And he cast for it four rings of gold, to be set by the four corners of it; even two rings upon the one side of it, and two rings upon the other side of it.

    [4] And he made staves of shittim wood, and overlaid them with gold.

    [5] And he put the staves into the rings by the sides of the ark, to bear the ark.

    [6] And he made the mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half was the length thereof, and one cubit and a half the breadth thereof.

    [7] And he made two cherubims of gold, beaten out of one piece made he them, on the two ends of the mercy seat;

    [8] One cherub on the end on this side, and another cherub on the other end on that side: out of the mercy seat made he the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

    [9] And the cherubims spread out their wings on high, and covered with their wings over the mercy seat, with their faces one to another; even to the mercy seatward were the faces of the cherubims.

    [10] And he made the table of shittim wood: two cubits was the length thereof, and a cubit the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof:

    [11] And he overlaid it with pure gold, and made thereunto a crown of gold round about.

    [12] Also he made thereunto a border of an handbreadth round about; and made a crown of gold for the border thereof round about.

    [13] And he cast for it four rings of gold, and put the rings upon the four corners that were in the four feet thereof.

    [14] Over against the border were the rings, the places for the staves to bear the table.

    [15] And he made the staves of shittim wood, and overlaid them with gold, to bear the table.

    [16] And he made the vessels which were upon the table, his dishes, and his spoons, and his bowls, and his covers to cover withal, of pure gold.

    [17] And he made the candlestick of pure gold: of beaten work made he the candlestick; his shaft, and his branch, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, were of the same:

    [18] And six branches going out of the sides thereof; three branches of the candlestick out of the one side thereof, and three branches of the candlestick out of the other side thereof:

    [19] Three bowls made after the fashion of almonds in one branch, a knop and a flower; and three bowls made like almonds in another branch, a knop and a flower: so throughout the six branches going out of the candlestick.

    [20] And in the candlestick were four bowls made like almonds, his knops, and his flowers:

    [21] And a knop under two branches of the same, and a knop under two branches of the same, and a knop under two branches of the same, according to the six branches going out of it.

    [22] Their knops and their branches were of the same: all of it was one beaten work of pure gold.

    [23] And he made his seven lamps, and his snuffers, and his snuffdishes, of pure gold.

    [24] Of a talent of pure gold made he it, and all the vessels thereof.

    [25] And he made the incense altar of shittim wood: the length of it was a cubit, and the breadth of it a cubit; it was foursquare; and two cubits was the height of it; the horns thereof were of the same.

    [26] And he overlaid it with pure gold, both the top of it, and the sides thereof round about, and the horns of it: also he made unto it a crown of gold round about.

    [27] And he made two rings of gold for it under the crown thereof, by the two corners of it, upon the two sides thereof, to be places for the staves to bear it withal.

    [28] And he made the staves of shittim wood, and overlaid them with gold.

    [29] And he made the holy anointing oil, and the pure incense of sweet spices, according to the work of the apothecary.

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    And a question for Exodus chapter 37.
    After reading Exodus chapter 37 why is it unlikely that the ark of the covenant still remains somewhere on the Earth? www-St-Takla-org--Bible-Slides-exodus-434.jpg
     
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    Probably because of what John seen in his vision laced out in the book of Revelation 11:And the temple sanctuary of Heaven was opened and the ark of the convening was seen in his temple sanctuary. And there were flashes of lightening and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail.

    This Revelations are symbolic and tho the literal ark would not be in heaven....what it represents is being used in the spiritual sense at the time of Johns revelation.
    Interesting that the lightening earthquakes and great hail are used along with the position of the ark....
    I know I don’t understand all of this scripture...????
    Would be interested in your thoughts...
     

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