Donald Trump/Antichrist

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    Donald Trump is an interesting candidate for US presidency. I find so many similarties in bible prophecy with his words and personality. Daniel chapter 7:7-28;8:9-19,23-26; 11:30b-45 and Revelation 13:11-18

    From interviews with Donald Trump I have seen that he is arrogant, blasphemous, cunning, effective, very smart, a friend of Israel, enemy of ISIS.
    Says he can get things to work with Russia and China. That would mean he could lead the world.
    And he wants to "heal" the beast. The US economy and send back illegal imigrants who have committed crimes in US.
     
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-American-player-tells-proud-comes-from.html

    Quote from the link above: (Trump says what would be his foreign policys):


    'We're diplomatic in our country and everybody hates us all over the world. We're politically correct and the world hates the United States. The world takes advantage of the United States on trade, on just about everything. And yet we've never been more unpopular.'

    He continued: 'I think I would be a great uniter. I think that I would have great diplomatic skills; I would be able to get along with people very well. I have had great success in my life. I have had a great education, I went to one of the best schools in the world and did well, I came out I made fortune.

    'I had great success I get along with people…actually I think the world would unite if I were the leader of the United States.'

    Mr Trump said the 'special relationship' between the US and UK would remain in place if he becomes president, and said it would be 'ridiculous' to have another Scottish referendum.

    He continued: 'I think we would be very close with Britain. We would have just such a great relationship with this part of the world and I think many other parts of the world. I think I would just get along very well with Vladimir Putin. I just think so.

    'He (Putin) hates Obama. Obama hates him. We have unbelievably bad relationships. Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, she was the worst Secretary of State in the history of our country. The world blew apart during her reign. Now she wants to be president.'

    Asked how he would make the world a safer place, Mr Trump said: 'I'd make our military much stronger and I'd make it so strong that nobody would mess with us.'
     
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    Trump “thinksâ€￾ along the line of anyone who is arrogant, blasphemous, cunning, effective, very smart, and you left out egotistical, and narcissistic. That’s why he always says, “I Think...â€￾ In his mind it is that philosophical statement, “I Think, therefor, I am.â€￾
    Unfortunately for the populous, he thinks with the brain that is in the opposite position in his body. Ffftttiittt! Ooo Ooo that smell. Can't you smell that smell?

    At the top of my list of favorite bands.

    [video=youtube;hib4n9RmFrQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hib4n9RmFrQ[/video]


     
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ng-four-hours-in-the-donald-trump-experience/

    This is good article describing Donald Trump and what kind of leader he is.

    Yet un other:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-books-by-donald-trump-heres-what-i-learned/

    2 quotes from that article:

    "In it, Trump, then 41, explains the power of psychology and deception — he calls it “bravado†or “truthful hyperbole†—"

    “I play to people’s fantasies,†Trump explains. “. . .** It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.â€

    Compare that to Daniel 8:25:
    25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand.
     
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    What would be interesting is IF the "feminization" of King South/7th King "old world order" being made subservient to "King North" world government forming, has a symbol—such as a female "King South" president.

    (Daniel 11:42-43) And he (8th King/King North) will keepthrusting out his hand against the (national) lands; and asregards the land of Egypt (collective national powers; King South"capital"), she (feminized King South)will not prove to be an escapee. (captured by globalist power intriguesof first a financial nature) 43 And he (King North/8thKing) will actually rule over the hidden treasures (globally) of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. (Thus 8th King/King North rules the world wealth, wealth system and all "desirable things" of collective global national "Egypt" "King South" powers in full globalist progressive ownership);

    Of course Daniel 11:44-45 can only be 8th King world government, currently covered up by UN allied Bethel. (Dan11:32a) No need to beat around the bush as if a BRICS, Russia/China block can now overcome the real King North globalists whom they too serve in that financial dimension of first control, in the above.

    This is the "wild beast ascends from the abyss" as Revelation 17:8-12 heads to full world government "ascension" under which this takes place:

    (Daniel 11:44) . . ."But there will be reports (Rev10-11 "little scroll" recovered ministry sovereign messages) that will disturb him (8th King going into world government totality), out of the sunrising and out of the north, and he will certainly go forth in a great rage (Dan8:25; Rev11:7) in order to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. (Dan8:25 "bring many to ruin during a freedom from care" parallel with 1Thess5:1-3 world "peace and security" period of 8th King world government placement (Dan12:11 final fulfillment);

    That is my speculation on the meaning of US national system "King South" coming subservience, with the EU, to the King North world government corporate banking/investment complex final wealth and power consolidation cycle.

    That is why the 7th King "falls" first, as a prophetic requirement, with Daniel 11:42-43 maturing to full King North global wealth control, for 8th King world government global "rise".
     
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    Daniel 8:23 "And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion,* a fierce-looking king who understands ambiguous sayings* will stand up

    A fierce-looking king will come before the end and he will be destroyed in the end of and half years prophecied in the Bible.
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    Again Donald Trump manifests so evidently such traits. Nobody else is close to give such a visual impression.

    This week he released a new book and its cover shows Donald Trump exactly like that, fierce or aggresive. Look at this:

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    What do you think, is it highly possible that Donald Trump will be the prophecied fierce looking king ?

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    "“And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, a fierce-looking king who understands ambiguous sayings will stand up." - Dn 8:23

    I see the character we usually call the "Antichrist" not only as a swaggerer but as someone who "knows his business", who knows what he's talking about and who uses his power of persuasion to such a extent that he leads the world to follow him till almost all-out annihilation, someone like Hitler to the power of 10k, so to speak ! The latter would be a mere wimp compared to the real one.... ! because in order to make the whole world go after him, he'll have to have more in store for the well-being of mankind who follows him than just all-out war and destruction of the "bad guys"....

    Besides the political aspect in the USA about which I couldn't care less, it's obvious on intellectual grounds that Trump is a buffoon. He has no credibility. Come on, who would follow him, and the whole world after him at that, on a rampage against religions and "the holy ones" and so till God must cut the GT short.....????
     
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    Agreed, completely.

    Trump ain't the guy.
     
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    The Antichrist is by definition the one who intends to rival Jesus Christ as King....

    Would Trump be able to hold a candle to Him ? lol
     
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    The only expression that comes to my mind whenever his name is uttered here or anywhere else in the news is....: DUH !

    Now, that's a fierce-looking king ! lol
     
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    Well, I was only going to post a song, but this subject of “The Antichrist” has come up again. Today in a sermon, his was equated with the beast in Rev 17 which the harlot rides. So, it is said that “the beast” represents “The Antichrist”! Hmmmm. That would make the apostle John a liar! How so? First of all, there are only 4 places in the entire Bible where this word is used and explained. Revelation is not one of them! John wrote Revelation; would he not specifically identify the “Antichrist” there?

    The interesting thing about this is, John is the only one who broaches the subject and, implies that it has been spoken of at an earlier time. “Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.” ( 1 Jo 2:18 NASB ) Apparently the subject had been going around to the congregations that John and the other apostles visited or sent letters. It was a matter of discussion and appears that some were questioning who it was or would be. It is also apparent that the presence of “The Antichrist” is associated with the “end time”. John mentions it being the “last hour”.

    Unfortunately there is no other place in the scriptures where this subject is written about with the word “Antichrist”. Somehow it must be thought of as being a “false Christ”, as mentioned in these scriptures. ( Mt 24:24, Mk 13:22, 2 Co 11:13 )

    The word is a compound of anti = against + christos = anointed, pertaining to Jesus as the Messiah of Jehovah God. John, not only identifies the antichrist, but explains why they are called such, and says there are “many” antichrists (plural). (1 Jo 2:18)
    Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.” ( 1 Jo 2:22 )

    The following two scriptures explain that not only are there many antichrists, but they were already present when John wrote his letters in the first century. These letters were likely written just before the destruction of Jerusalem in about 70 A.D./C.E., because John says “Children, it is the last hour;
    I believe it was written about the time that the Roman army surrounded Jerusalem in about 66 A.D./C.E., and then suddenly withdrew there forces, due to problems arising in Rome.

    “. . . and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.” ( 1 Jo 4:3 )

    For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” ( 2 Jo 1:7 )

    These letters were also likely written in a time after he wrote the Revelation. Why can I suggest this? Because there is no mention of Jerusalem being destroyed, or the temple being destroyed. Nowhere in Revelation is this subject mentioned, which would indicate the establishment of the “New Jerusalem” and it’s temple. (Rev 3:12)
     
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    Trump the little horn! Upon the beast that goes off into destruction but not before triggering the final conflict were Michael is forced to intervene to save isreal
     
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    Fa-get-ah-bot-it! Here's a song for The Donald.

     
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    Antichrist's are not anointed Christians that go bad, if they were ever "anointed" in any way it was from Satan. When a person is chosen by God to be a part of the Christ, they are anointed. Judas was never anointed in this way. He was the seed of the Devil from the time Jesus chose him till he actually betrayed Jesus. This is the same way that modern day Antichrists will come about. They are the "seed" of the Devil and not "seed" of the Christ and never were. Jesus said that he knew from the beginning that Judas was not of his seed and that he was a "Devil". He was chosen so that the scriptures would be fulfilled that one of Jesus close associates would betray him.

    The modern day "man of lawlessness" and "Antichrists" are the same. They were never "anointed" members of Christ's Bride but have always been wicked imposter's from the very beginning. They only "claim" to be a part of Christ's Bride.
     
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    Judas wouldn't have been anointed, neither were any of the other disciples, Jesus didn't send the spirit till he reached heaven.

    Why are you talking about anointed ones? I have no idea what your talking about.

    Seriously, I really don't know what point your trying to make half the time anyway.

    Now if you have some meaningful insight into the connection of the MOL and the Antichrist I'm all ears, but if not, you haven't added anything to the thread but nonsense.
     
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    Hi Joshua:

    Jehovah knows how every single one of us will use our free will long in advance. To some extent, how much I not sure Jesus also had this capacity even while on earth as a human. Jesus knew that Judas was a seed of the devil as he even said as much and he knew that Judas would be the one that would betray him and therefore chose him exactly for that purpose. None, I repeat None of the ones that were given to Jesus by his Father and his Mother were lost, only Judas because he was not Jesus seed.

    For Jesus knew from the beginning those who did not believe and the one who would betray him. John 6:64

    12 When I was with them, I used to watch over them+on account of your own name, which you have given me; and I have protected them, and not one of them is destroyed+except the son of destruction,+so that the scripture might be fulfilled. John 17:12

    Judas was the only apostle that Jesus directly chose and he was chosen for the express purpose of fulfilling the scriptures. Jehovah doesn't choose people for the bride of his son that will become unfaithful. He knows that they will always choose to be faithful. Not that they can't sin and fall short, but they will always repent and remain faithful.

    After Judas took the piece of bread, then Satan entered into him.+So Jesus said to him: “What you are doing, do it more quickly.” John 13:27 When Jesus said this he said it to Satan who had possessed the body of Judas. Satan cannot possess a human unless that human is his seed. Remember the sower and the seed. Another man (Satan) came behind Jesus and sowed is seed as well (in people who had his personality and disposition). Judas was one who always had Satan's disposition.

    Jesus answered them: “I chose you twelve, did I not?+Yet one of you is a slanderer.”* John 6:70 There is an asterisk at the end of that scripture. It was put there by the NWT to denote that the literal translation of that word is "devil". Judas was the seed of the devil, he was chosen as one of Satan's seed the same way that we are chosen to be the seed of God or of Jesus. He was always that seed because to do wrong was who he was.

    The Watchtower was the tool of Jehovah for the gathering of the first New Covenant saints that make up the bride of Christ. But, like all religions around the earth (who contain people who have the seed of Jesus in their hearts, even though for now they may be misled) they also contain people who are the seed of the Devil. They are imposters who masquerade as "Christs", but they are indeed really "Devils". The Watchtower has these men within it. The have the mask of a new covenant saint on but they are fakes, just like Judas was a fake. They are Antichrist's and there are many of them in our midst.

    There may also be a secular "man of lawlessness" and "Antichrist's" but I am afraid that I don't think I can help you out in that regard. We will just have to wait and see how things unfold. I don't think that Donald Trump is the "Antichrist" or the "Man of lawlessness". He is an anti-globalist and will oppose any move toward a worldwide government. That is why they oppose him so. The rulers of this world do not want Donald screwing up their plans. I think they would either assassinate him or call of the elections in order to stop him from being President. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

    I think Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have a much better chance of being the secular man of lawlessness. I know Hillary is a woman but she is also a world leader operating in a man's typical role. She is too ill to be President though, that is why I think they will design a grand false flag operation so they can call marshall law and stop the election.





     
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    Come on, it is Donald Trump. Just look at how he is against Sharia law and those who are for it. Trump has already begun to put himself above gods.
     
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    But I believe Donald Trump will get the power and he will become "The Antichrist". Just the latest days there have been talks that now when Breitbarts' CEO has become Donald's new right hand we will see more nationalism and populism. That will mean persecution of true christians.
     

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