Donald Trump/Antichrist

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    Frank Conger

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    You know that this scripture was written to first century Christians who proclaimed that they were not only first new covenant saints but had already taken up their kingship, which they probably were not kings at all. I have never proclaimed to b a first new covenant King Thinking. You are applying this incorrectly towards me, but it is probably usable against many in the Watchtower who proclaim themsleves Kings when they are nothing of the sort.
     
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    Ok Frank,

    Wake up, wake up, take a deep breath, look around you with your eyes wide open and focus, focus on real things; a sound, a smell, your feet on the ground, your butt on your chair, anything real ! Okey !?!?

    Great ! Now please, calm down... Easy, easy.... ! Wooooh....

    We already know it all; we're cursed, you're the savior of our souls but we fall so short of it... What a pity ! On spiritual grounds, the WT is broke, Gordon is rich, hence his name....

    Yes, please, visit us in the prison of Gehenna and while you're at it, don't forget the oranges and a pic of Richie Wonderman so we can play darts with it since we're da**ed because of him... He's so spiritually awake, maybe will he make the thoughtful connection with Eph 6:16 and """"thank God """"" spin another prophetic interpretation of his, of which he's the only one to have the secret key and about which we'd be so happy if he kept it to himself once and for good.... This new epiphany would certainly keep you busy for a few weeks, wouldn't it ? It'd make a few so longed-for days off to us.... at last...

    Ok ?
     
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    Who is this Gordon? Maybe I could help him spiritually?
    Has he a webpage?
     
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    What are your thoughts now after two weeks since Donald Trump has been the president?

    The prophecy forezample says "he will be successful and act effectively." Daniel 8:24.
    And this is what they say on the news how he has been for the first 2 weeks.

    And did any one listen to Donald Trump's speech at the National Breakfast prayer? He sounded at times at this speech very spiritual. To me he could already rival the Pope talking about faith.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...rks-president-trump-national-prayer-breakfast

     
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    I'm not sure where you get your news, it always seems to be the opposite of what we read every day. Go to Yahoo and you read article after article bashing Trump as a failure. I don't have an opinion one way or the other I'm just stating fact, the liberal media is blasting him.
     
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    Joshua, look for what he has done already in 2 weeks and compare that to how much presidents get things done in 2 weeks. And ignore the "noise" of blasting him. Look for the things that really happen.
     
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    I'd rather see him like in Dn 11:21....
     
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    There are truly some similarities. But that part of the prophecy happened at the days of Jesus. But maybe there is partially a dual fulfilment.

    But from verse 11:30 it surely applies to a very near future, because it talks about:
    And arms* will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary,+ the fortress, and remove the constant feature.*+“And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.+

    So let assume this will happen during the reign of Donald Trump. That would in itself mean that the king spoken of here is then logically Donald Trump. And that in turn should mean that the following scriptures are about what this king will do. And the personality of Donald Trump fits here the description also.

    For example v 32 says "he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words."

    It says particularily "smooth words". And that is exactly what many have told about Donald Trump how he is when he meets persons one on one.
    I understand that, it is his way. First he tries to talk to you very very nicely to get you go along. If that does not work then you can expect he will use other tactics to get what he wants.

    The v. 36 fits well to the character of Donald Trump: “The king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself

    Verse 39: He will give great glory to those who give him recognition,* and he will make them rule among many; and the ground he will apportion out* for a price.

    That is exactly how Donald Trump has rewarded those who gives him recognition. In the news they now complain that he rather give positions of power to loyalists to him than to better qualified people.
     
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    What are your thoughts now about Donald Trump? Have you begun to connect him to the king described very detailed in Daniel?
     
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    My current thinking:

    Trump creates the counter-reaction necessary to rid the world of the Christianized Western system.

    Incoming: "Democratic socialism", the collapse of the USD, and the rise of the global government system.
     
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    I was in assembly this weekend. It has been said that there will be no other world power, that the Anglo-American empire will prosper until God destroys it. Jehovah's Witnesses will go in cellars, they will hear the destruction and then a great silence. So they will leave the cellars, meet with other brothers, and be happy while burying the corpses.
     
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    Respectfully to the GB, it's not their job to understand and present chronology...
     
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    Sounds like what I've heard here all around me for some time about the GB getting people prepared for the second part of the preaching work message.... message about condamnation against God's foes and persecutions against God's servants...

    I had heard that there would be "new lights" in that regard coming up in the following conventions this year... I've heard that a recent broadcasting was about it all... Well, I never watch them but I trust those among my relatives who watch them and tell me about them in such passionate ways !

    Time will tell.... :rolleyes:
     
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    The title means "Trump is nuts but America is curing him..." lol

    Nothing else to add.... :)

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    I recently watched a few of the videos in a series that depict a group meeting in a hidden room and eventually being found by scary military type men. I was hoping to find some comment on them here. Interesting, and made me feel like I need to continue playing my concerns and doubts even closer to the vest...
     
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    I just realized these videos were the ones released at the convention last year and I'm just now watching them on the broadcasting. Oops. And yes, they'very been discussed here! Catching up a bit. :)
     
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    I wanted to start a new thread about it but you beat me to it.... :) I'll talk about it on a wider scale later. Please check the link below....:

    https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/global-letter-writing-campaign-russian-officials/
     
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    Utuna I have seen every pioneer friend of mine on Instagram showing their letters and I heard NOTHING about it! I'm interested to see what's happening.... I've been out of town and not in the loop this past week.
     
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