False Prophets - Bad | Wrong Prophecy - Good

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    "For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially"

    - 1 Corinthians 13:9


    "For now we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror" - 1 Corinthians 13:12

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    What is a false prophet?

    Ezekiel 13 gives us the answer:

    "when you say, ‘The word of Jehovah is,’ when I have not said anything?â€￾

    What is a wrong prophecy?

    When Peter presumed that Jesus WOULD NOT die, because his "kingdom would remain forever".

    Peter, like us, saw a hazy outline through a 'metal mirror'.

    This occurs when our speculation predicated on the future as described by the Holy Scriptures is wrong.

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    Why is this distinction important?

    Because 'wrong prophecy' is GOOD, and motivates our minds forward to Christ's kingdom. Even though we prophesy partially, and have partial knowledge.

    Hence, we "Do not treat prophecies with contempt" (1 Thess 5:20)

    On the other hand, those who declare what Jehovah has said when "he said nothing" are committing apostasy and blasphemy by speaking in Jehovah's place.

    Very few people dare to speak for Jehovah. You'll hear it from the TV evangelist frequently when they say "God told me X" or "the Lord came to me with a message of X".

    The vast majority of Christian prophecy for the last 2000 years has been WRONG. NOT presumed to be declared by Jehovah; but an extrapolation about the coming World System united against God and his anointed!
     
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    Here’s an interesting interpretation of the parable of the tares. (Mt 13:24-30) I’ve never thought of it having a fulfillment in the first century; a.66-70 CE. It was my understanding and that of the WTB&TS that it is a future event.

    TARES, a Chaldee word implying degenerate wheat. God sowed good seed in his field; made man in his own image and likeness. The enemy corrupted this good seed, and caused it to degenerate. The parable of the tares and wheat has reference to the state of the Jewish people. God had sowed them, at first, wholly a right seed, but now they had become utterly degenerate, and about to be plucked up and destroyed by the Roman armies, which were the angels or messengers of God, whom he had commissioned to sweep these rebellious people from the earth. - A. Clarke, A Bible Dictionary 1854, Pg 175

    Here is the complete explanation according to Adam Clarke.
    When the professors were lukewarm, and the pastors indolent, his enemy came and sowed tares, degenerate, or bastard wheat. The righteous and the wicked are often mingled in the visible Church. Every Christian society, how pure soever its principles may be, has its bastard wheat-those who bear a resemblance to the good, but whose hearts are not right with God. He who sows this bastard wheat among God's people is here styled God's enemy; and he may be considered also as a sower of them who permits them to be sown and to spring up through his negligence. Wo to the indolent pastors, who permit the souls under their care to be corrupted by error and sin! This word does not, I believe, occur in any of the Greek classics, nor in Dioscorides; but it may be seen in the Geoponica, or Greek writers De Re Rustica:

    “Zizanion, which is called, darnel, injures the wheat; and, mixed in the bread, causes dimness of the eyes to those who eat of it.â€￾ And the author might have added vertigo also. But this does not seem to be the grain to which our Lord alludes.

    The word, zizania, which is here translated tares, and which should rather be translated bastard or degenerate wheat, is a Chaldee word; and its meaning must be sought in the rabbinical writers. In a treatise in the Mishna called Kelayim, which treats expressly on different kinds of seeds, the word zunim, or zunin, is used for bastard or degenerated wheat; that which was wholly a right seed in the beginning, but afterwards became degenerate-the ear not being so large, nor the grains in such quantity, as formerly, nor the corn so good in quality. In Psalms 144:13, the words mizzan al zen, are translated all manner of store; but they properly signify, from species to species: might not the Chaldee word zunin, and the Greek word, zizania, come from the psalmist’s zanzan, which might have signified a mixture of grain of any kind, and be here used to point out the mixing bastard or degenerate wheat among good seed wheat? The Persic translator renders it {Persic} telkh daneh, bitter grain; but it seems to signify merely degenerate wheat. This interpretation throws much light on the scope and design of the whole passage. Christ seems to refer, first, to the origin of evil. God sowed good seed in his field; made man in his own image and likeness: but the enemy, the devil, 13:30,) corrupted this good seed, and caused it to degenerate. Secondly, he seems to refer to the state of the Jewish people: God had sowed them, at first, wholly a right seed, but now they were become utterly degenerate, and about to be plucked up and destroyed by the Roman armies, which were the angels or messengers of God’s justice, whom he had commissioned to sweep these rebellious people from the face of the land. Thirdly, he seems to refer also to the state in which the world shall be found, when he comes to judge it. The righteous and the wicked shall be permitted to grow together, till God comes to make a full and final separation.
     
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    Thanks for sharing Tsaphah!

    It seems Clarke is right on target. Christianity was infiltrated, and in all groups are wheat and weeds, and has been since the Apostles died and the 'anti-Christ' false teachers took the reigns.

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    Jesus told them another parable:

    “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared."

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    AFTER the 'wheat' digested the sacrifice of Jesus, and 'sprouted' in the spirit, THEN the weeds appeared.

    They grow together until a final separation; when the 'fire' purifies the crop.


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    "The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

    “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them.

    30 Let both grow together until the harvest."

    - Matthew 13

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    We're now in the ~2000th year of that growth process.
     

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