Genesis 3:15

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  1. Hi Domenic:

    I am having a difficult time understanding your stand on the Bible and the "Scrolls". Which scrolls are you talking about? Is it the scrolls originally written by Enoch before the flood? Or the scrolls originally written by Moses to form the basis of the Pentateuch? Or perhaps the original scrolls of the Bible written in ancient Hebrew? Are these the scrolls that you are talking about?

    If so, how can you put more "faith" in these scrolls than you put in the Bible? They both have been re-copied over and over through time and all were in a position to be altered by the scibes that re-copied them. How are they a more accurate and reliable source of information than the "scrolls" that were selected to be a part of the Bible? I don't exactly understand what you mean. My faith is in the Bible. Although mistakes have crept in I am sure, no doubt Jehovah has taken the steps to preserve the veracity of his Word. If not, then we should all give up because if you can't put your faith in the Bible then you can't at the same time put your faith in the "scrolls".

    Please inform me where I am wrong.

    Frank
     
  2. Hi Utuna:

    Actually, my hooey is a completely different type of hooey than Domenic's. Get it right! I can't help it if you don't have a proper understanding of the Bible and the book of Genesis, that is your fault.

    Frank
     
  3. Hi Utuna:

    You really thought about it for a long time didn't you? (less than 2 minutes). Actually, I don't care what you believe. I have read what you say on the subject in the past and it shows your lack of real understanding of God's word. You understand some things, but your understanding is shallow. Don't fret my brother, eventually you will. The angels will make sure that all of the faithful are herded to salvation before the end of this system of things and I think you are one of these (but it's not my choice, it is the angels').

    Like in Noah's day when the animals were herded to the ark for salvation, so too today the faithful will be directed to salvation during the Great Tribulation. That is the "Great Crowd", not those that Jehovah's Witnesses have collected who are not of Christ's Bride. Yes, many of Jehovah's Witnesses will be among the Great Crowd who are collected, but as it is they have not been collected yet. Jehovah's witnesses were the collecting vessel for the Bride of Christ, not for the Great Crowd. "The harvest is the conclusion of a system of things and the reapers are angels". Matthew 13:39

    Among many other things, this is a gross misunderstanding by Jehovah's Witnesses. It is an innocent mistake, as are most of the other mistakes that are made. But, as long as a person has true faith in God and his Son and/or show real love during the time of the mark, they will be guided to the "ark" of Salvation. Most people will not really have a firm grip on the understanding of God's Word this side of Armageddon. Most of the real learning will happen in the Kingdom. I look forward to the time when we may meet in the Kingdom and enjoy some "face to face" time and truly come to an understanding of the Bible together. Until then, we can exchange thoughts here on this forum.

    Frank
     
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    Frank,
    Yes all the scrolls are copies. But, they are many years older than the bible. The scrolls are older than the Scrolls the Hebrews copied. The dead sea scrolls are even older. They match the scrolls I have used to check the bible. The scrolls were inspired by Jehovah God. Jehovah did not have to come back and again inspire men to copy the scrolls. The bible does not have a ton of changes, just a few, but those few make the reading very different.
    The scrolls have prophesies which have come true...they are there so we can believe what we cannot prove. The same prophesies are in the bible.
    It is history, they had to copy the bible from something? They say they made the copies from the scrolls...they did, the copies of the scrolls the false Jews made. The Jews(false Jews) use a set of scrolls that do not match the older, or dead sea scrolls.

    I can write a bible and have it printed. I could make little changes here, and there...so can anybody...but it would not be inspired of Jehovah God. it would be a fake., a fake, a tool of Satan.
    Ask any JW, "How often have you heard a talk at the kingdom hall about the subject, in genesis 3:15? or about the two trees in the Garden. They fly over those two subjects like a jet doing mac 5.
    How often have the members of the Watch Tower been told to match the bible, and all the other JW book against the scrolls? If nobody has ever told you, let me be the first..."NEVER."
     
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    No wonder millions and millions of people have died over the centuries because of trash like this...

    From what I understand this theory says Hams line is black, and that they are descendants of Cain/Satan.

    I have mixed family members and this just pisses me off!!!!!!!!! I think anyone here that thinks genes will determine if you have Gods favor or not need to crawl back in the whole you came from...
     
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