Language is code

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    Language is code

    Really? Yes! How so?
    Today, I was intrigued by the word “knackerâ€. I had an idea of what it meant due to the context. “It was a Beauceron mare, old and thin, and one fit for the knacker, which was dragging a very heavy cart.†It is a verb, “usually in past tense, knackered, "to kill, castrate" (1855), but most often used in weakened sense of "to tire out" (1883); apparently from knacker (n.) "worn-out or useless horse," 1812, of unknown origin; possibly from a dialectal survival of a Scandinavian word represented by Old Norse hnakkur "saddle," hnakki "back of the neck," and thus possibly related to neck (n.).â€

    We also can conclude that is wasn’t dealing with castrate, because it was a mare. Also if you’ve noticed, hnakki is where we get the newer spelling of the word, neck.

    While searching for the meaning of “knackerâ€, it sounded like “knickersâ€, and I knew what that word referred to. But, I was curious about the origin. I found this interesting.
    Knickers noun
    "short, loose-fitting undergarment," now usually for women but not originally so, 1866, shortening of knickerbockers (1859), said to be so called for their resemblance to the trousers of old-time Dutchmen in Cruikshank's illustrations for Washington Irving's "History of New York" (see knickerbocker).
    Knickerbocker
    "descendant of Dutch settlers of New York," 1831, from Diedrich Knickerbocker, the name under which Washington Irving published his popular "History of New York" (1809). The pen-name was borrowed from Irving's friend Herman Knickerbocker, and literally means "toy marble-baker."

    From these examples we see that language is a code, words made up of letters. They are also associated with numbers. As you read this, you are actually reading what is called ascii (askey) code. When letters are combined they make up words which describe something. Without knowing the coded language, we cannot understand the coded meanings. As described below, we must be a part of the community or nation who use that coded language.

    Language noun

    1. a body of words and the systems for their use common to a people who are of the same community or nation, the same geographical area, or the same cultural tradition: the two languages of Belgium; a Bantu language; the French language; the Yiddish language.
    2. communication by voice in the distinctively human manner, using arbitrary sounds in conventional ways with conventional meanings; speech.
    3. the system of linguistic signs or symbols considered in the abstract ( opposed to speech ).
    4. any set or system of such symbols as used in a more or less uniform fashion by a number of people, who are thus enabled to communicate intelligibly with one another.
    5. any system of formalized symbols, signs, sounds, gestures, or the like used or conceived as a means of communicating thought, emotion, etc.: the language of mathematics; sign language.

    Origin:late 13c., langage "words, what is said, conversation, talk," from Old French langage (12c.), from Vulgar Latin *linguaticum, from Latin lingua "tongue," also "speech, language" (see lingual). The form with -u- developed in Anglo-French. Meaning "a language" is from c.1300, also used in Middle English of dialects:

    Code noun

    1. a system used for brevity or secrecy of communication, in which arbitrarily chosen words, letters, or symbols are assigned definite meanings.
    2. a system for communication by telegraph, heliograph, etc., in which long and short sounds, light flashes, etc., are used to symbolize the content of a message: Morse code.
    3. any set of standards set forth and enforced by a local government agency for the protection of public safety, health, etc., as in the structural safety of buildings (building code) health requirements for plumbing, ventilation, etc. (sanitary or health code) and the specifications for fire escapes or exits (fire code)
    4. a systematically arranged collection or compendium of laws, rules, or regulations.
    5. any authoritative, general, systematic, and written statement of the legal rules and principles applicable in a given legal order to one or more broad areas of life.

    Origin: c.1300, "systematic compilation of laws," from Old French code "system of laws, law-book" (13c.), from Latin codex, earlier caudex "book, book of laws," literally "tree trunk," hence, book made up of wooden tablets covered with wax for writing. Meaning "cipher" (the sense in secret code) is from 1808.

    This leads to another word that solidifies the fact that language is code. The word is “cipherâ€, and it was used to describe why it is code.

    Cipher noun
    late 14c., "arithmetical symbol for zero," from Old French cifre "nought, zero," Medieval Latin cifra, with Spanish and Italian cifra, ultimately from Arabic sifr "zero," literally "empty, nothing," from safara "to be empty;" loan-translation of Sanskrit sunya-s "empty." The word came to Europe with Arabic numerals. Originally in English "zero," then "any numeral" (early 15c.), then (first in French and Italian) "secret way of writing; coded message" (a sense first attested in English 1520s), because early codes often substituted numbers for letters. Klein says Modern French chiffre is from Italian cifra.

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    Interesting and true.

    In WT-speak, the word ‘apostate,’ for example, is code for any person who
    is considered at odds with what is perceived to be the current drift of WT
    dogma, as determined by any group of three officiating elders of a congregation
    of JW’s.

     
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    this is all over the internet. under language coverted to dna.. martin luther king was the proof it works because a sample exists..some of his writting was converted to actual dna code,useing his sample as a model. when the dna was read by computer it came out in martin luther kings actual voice,,, the implications of this are mind bogling! some one could with enough money encode jesus christs writeings from the bible and attempt a human clone. if it pans out that a persons language is a unique dna code that represents his actual person,people could be cloned with at least some recollection of who they were. in the cases were great amounts of litterature were written by authors, much more of the dna strand would certainly yeild more of that charactor in the cloneing pocesses! now you know what it means when the bible says the word is alive! and oh holy do do some fool scientist will undoubtedly try to condense jehovahs words into dna with likely the same result as they had when they tried building a ark of the covenent...that was done years ago by the government not much was released on what actully happened .except the progect produced dangerous energy and was dismantled quickly!
     
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    Thanks for posting this thread, Tsaphah.

    I used this word today when I got home from work - "I'm knackered!" At the moment, I'm teaching some young people about assertive behavior. They have so much energy. I wonder who is going to wear out first - me or them? ;)

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    Thanks for sharing Tsaphah!

    This reminds me of a Noam Chomsky lecture I heard. He made the point that language can change the foundation of our thinking with the placement of 'modifier' words, or the structure and placement of the article etc.

    I have to conclude that there is an 'optimal' language which allows our brains to 'flow' thoughts together with more precision.

    English sure ain't it :)
     
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    yes , words usage and language is a great subject . My X was
    into linguistics and semantics , so the discussions over
    connotations and denotations of words were frequently examined
    both with the human intent the the biblical intent to covey
    thoughts and ideas ...Also since I have a family member who
    is trained in the fields of psychology we have frequently
    discussed "emotionally charged language" which intent is
    to stir up or stab , or hurt another or to slander others .
    Its intent ..The WT uses keyed words to acquire a desired result
    in those who sup solely on publications from HQ ..anyone who is
    trained to spot these statements that are sandwiched into
    WT speak can also see the intention behind them ...Yes it is
    a war for your mind and heart ..
     
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    Here is an interesting article which shows what appears to be plain language can contain hidden code. As long as the receiving party knows the code, it can be read. Also in this case it is similar to computer ascii code depending whether it is decimal or hex. IE; decimal 65 = A, 97 = a; while hex 41 = A, 61 = a. There are other combinations that can be used by adding or subtracting values. In this case it also depended on which letters were to be important.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22359307


     
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    language is indeed code. unicode is computer code no mater what your language, if you say hello im hungry,it translates into binary code that can be retranslated to any language.their is a theory that their is a universal binot code that no mater what language you speak you could hear the binot code and understand it evan if you never heard it before! scientists have begun to break this code and it has been found to be of the dna type code..a sample of martin luthors writeings was converted into dna code then played back with a computer..lo and behold it came out in his voice although it was just text off of a page..the implications of this find are stagering! you can bet that the militarys top priority is feeding the words of god and jesus into the dna encoder.if they are sucsessful in establishing a dna code from the bible.they could make a horrific weapon! let us hope that jehovah will not permit them to discover the hidden binot codes used in creation.just imagine a machine that could destroy a whole country just by correctly produceing the sound of gods voice..scarey thought...
     
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    You’re a bit off with your information. It’s Martin Luther King Jr., and Shakespeare. The scientists are interested in the compactness of DNA code. Here’s the article from The Guardian. Extremely interesting. Your ideas of future use are possible and frightening when available to the wrong powers.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/jan/23/shakespeare-sonnets-encoded-dna
     
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    thank you for posting those links ,thats the thing i refere to yup could be scary...
     
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    My take on language is that its the means of transferring thought. In the beginning Jah used language to transfer His thoughts to Jesus. Jah wanted to share something with His Son...and language of some kind was needed. This transferring led to intimacy so they became "one". They then wanted to share this "oneness" with many others. There is only one thing that can lead to this kind of oneness...and language was needed for this to happen.

    So whatever body we live in,language was made possible to 1/ help us know we are in Gods image. Then 2/ share this with others.

    What would this lead to ? Communication. In that word is the word "Commune". One of the meanings of "Commune" is to live with...and involves living with that person in some way. So to Communicate is to commune VIA the MIND because of thoughts shared VIA language. So whatever body we live,we can commune with them via our mind. So even though Jah may be in a place we cant see...or we cant see Him,we are still in each others mind because we have shared via a language of some sort...which is the transference of thought.

    We are communing with Him because of the thought exchange.

    With Jah there is the transference of the most important thing He has discovered and made His own...the very reason He made His Son and became close to him...and the reason they then tried to share this with us. So that we all could commune in intimacy via our minds using a value that surpasses "all thought".
     
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    another interesting fact, the human ear not onley receives sound, it produces sounds which can be measured! these sounds are not yet proved to be a language.but the speculation is that when you think your ears repeat your words on a frequency to high to be heard by human ears..hmmmmmm I wonder who is listening to our every thought?
     
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    If you have a link to prove that theory,Id like to see it. On a side note,if you become deaf,does this mean you stop thinking...and what happenes when you get "ringing in your ears"..is someone trying telephone you ? ;) How does one answer that ?
     
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    Ah ? D'you think that Apple should be working on improving tinnitus for mobile phone applications ? :p

    Joan of Arc* was definitely in the forefront in that regard ! She even had access to video conferencing. lol

    * Joan said she was about 19 at her trial, so she must have been born around the year 1412. She later testified that she experienced her first vision around 1424 at the age of 12 years, when she was out alone in a field and saw visions of figures she identified as Saint Michael, Saint Catherine, and Saint Margaret, who told her to drive out the English and bring the Dauphin to Reims for his coronation. She said she cried when they left, as they were so beautiful.
     
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    Hi JIG

    I would be interested in reading more about this also.

    In the meantime, I found this link which talks about the ears producing their own sounds.

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Human-Ears-Also-Create-Sounds-of-Their-Own-109279.shtml

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    The way some people have a mobile GLUED to their head,im sure "apple" has invented a frequency that we cant hear that makes using the contraption addictive. Why else do we see mobile phone zombies walking the streets and driving cars while using this device?

    As for Joan of Arc,having a manifestation of her multiple personalities would make me cry also...2 heads are better than one(though not on the same persons body)..so why not multiple personalities are better than one. It gets aweful lonely if the space between our ears is an empty place...which might explain why some cant stop using a mobile phone...the echo must be unbearable though.;)
     
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    Hi JD

    I think you may be right :)

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    This new portal shows what Jesus said, "The first will be last and the last will be first." Every time I want to reply, the last message becomes the first listed, and the first becomes last.

    Jahsdisciple, here's an explanation of how we hear.
    "... according to scientists, in the spiral-shaped cochlea in the inner ear. The cause of these emissions stands most likely in the tiny strands of hair that grow on its exterior. These hairs play a crucial role in hearing, as they are the ones that capture sound waves and then convert them into electrical impulses." People become deaf, or hard of hearing when the hairs either shrink in size or are damaged by loud sounds. As they decline in length, a person will become deaf. I have tinnitus, for which there is no effective cure. Mine came from riding motorcycles and hunting, with loud large bore hand guns, rifles, and shot guns.

    As for the ringing, I just don't answer. And there is no answering machine. They keep calling all day long, like telemarketers.


    Now, if I had only stuck to using a bow and arrow.
    ;) There is a pun there.
     
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    Here's an interesting article in today's Washington Post. You must read it carefully in order to pick out statements that are either vaguely referenced or not referenced at all. In other words, someone's opinion. Time periods, evolution, world locations, groupings, etc., are basically guesses.

    I used to trust the media
    To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
    But now I've seen the payoffs
    Everywhere I look
    Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

    (Queensryche - Revolution Calling - 3rd verse)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-11e2-9a98-4be1688d7d84_story.html?tid=pm_pop
     

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