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    I looked down in the sand and saw only one a pair of footprints and thought thats when I was being carried...

    ....then I noticed the footprints were 15 inches long


    & you think you've got it all figured out. o_O
     
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    https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/peace-happiness/conspiracy-theories-misinformation/

    From the article that currently [May 2021] appears on the front page of the official Watchtower website.

    "For example, during the COVID-19 pandemic, the secretary-general of the United Nations warned of a dangerous epidemic of misinformation. “Harmful health advice and snake-oil solutions are proliferating,” he stated. “Falsehoods are filling the airwaves. Wild conspiracy theories are infecting the Internet. Hatred is going viral, stigmatizing and vilifying people and groups.”


    Perhaps the reader should be acclimated
    that this article is presented as taking the word of the head of the United Nations as if 'gospel truth'.

    Do/es the author/s not realise that tobacco was once prescribed by physicians ? That the Nazi final solution death camp holocaust where Jehovah's witnesses perished was once considered a conspiracy theory ? Until after the war. That the promotion of the term 'conspiracy theory' was instigated by the C.I.A. as a research ending propaganda tool. That Job was effectively dismissed as a deluded conspiracy theorist by his 'comforters' That the notion of a spirit realm where forces manipulate human affairs, where evidence for the true history of the antediluvian world and the deluge of Noah is removed from public view & understanding, where powerful spirits deceive the entire inhabited earth, fits perfectly into the modern intellectuals definition of conspiracy theory ?

    The level of pandering indulged in this article is the same spirit of 'men pleasing' that would have a leader of the WTBTS write to Adolf Hitler sympathising about Jews. Or that would have 'Kingdom literature' stall on showing racial integrated marriages. At some point you need to ask who is it least worth offending ? Because trying to please and appease men. Is 'men pleasing'.

    Here is another article reported in the international press something else that is often dismissed as unfounded theory yet here it is happening now.

    https://time.com/5954818/first-human-monkey-chimera-embryo/

    This article is also flawed but for different reasons than the WTBTS article.

    In no way are the abominations reported here the first of their kind. These things have been created in laboratories for the best part of a century and kept from public view for very obvious concerns.

    In Noah's day there were hybrid beings abominations who were destroyed in the deluge, half human beings. As believers we take it for granted that perhaps everyone at that time was aware who, where, and what these creatures were. However that is an asumption we make from the privilege of having a bible informed perspective.

    Is it possible that something abominable exists in our day able to evade detection, that things which are reported as created in modern laboritories are, and have already been walking the earth for millenia.

    As the Time article correctly states presently there exists on the earth half human creatures. Do they exists outside of modern laboritories ? If so, what, where, why, how. A case to be made, a story to tell.

    Things hidden in darkness to be brought to light.

    Leviticus 18:23 “‘A man must not have sexual intercourse with an animal to become unclean by it; nor should a woman offer herself to an animal to have intercourse with it.s It is a violation of what is natural.

    Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


     
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    The Case In Six Chapters

    Chapter One. Introduction & Forensics.
     
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    Melba S. Ketchum, D. V. M.Curriculum Vitae April, 2015

    DNA Diagnostics P. O. Box 455 Timpson, TX 75975

    EDUCATION

    Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, 1978, Texas A&M University, College Station, TXBachelor of Veterinary Science, 1977, Texas A&M University,College Station, TXCertification training at the National Veterinary Disease Laboratory, Ames, Iowa. 1985Visiting Scientist, University of Kentucky Serology Laboratory and DNA Research Laboratory, University of Kentucky, Lexington, Kentucky. 1985, 1987FDLE DNA Advanced PCR Training. 1995Promega Statistical Genetics. 1996, 1997Promega Expert Witness Training. 1998Promega Mitochondrial DNA Training Workshop 1999Promega Statistics and Mixture Analysis Workshop 2002GeneCodes mtDNA Forensic Analysis Software training 2003


    LICENSES Texas State Board Veterinary License #4335DEA License: Schedule 2, 2N, 3, 3N, 4, 5Texas Controlled Substance License
     
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    The term for creatures which are generally considered mythical, or unproven to science yet claimed to exist by some is cryptid. Modern science is typically driven by either commerce or military research and development. Evidences which do not fit into the context of utility of application are dismissed by mainstream science primarily for having no use, and secondarily for having no context. As such, there can exist massive amounts of scientific evidence for events such as Noah's deluge which are not considered collectively by science. When fishing trawlers have dredged up mammoth remains from the Atlantic ocean, such things are designated as out of place artifacts and individual anomalies yet not typically added to what would become a body of evidence.

    Establishing that there is scientific evidence, including forensic dermal print & DNA evidence for the Sasquatch cryptid is there also the possibility of a biblical context ?


    When the Watchtower society has presented evidence concerning the great deluge one of the categories of evidence considered is the associated folklore. This category of evidence is understood to be likely distorted and embellished, parochial and dramatised. It is still considered, often due to the sheer amount of it. In the region of 400 flood myths in different languages and cultures. The Sasquatch cryptid is similar in this regard, of the hundreds of indigenous tribes of first nations peoples on the North American continent every single one of them has a different name for this and further a field cultures on most other continents do also China, Russia, Europe, Indonesia all do.. This can be explored in more detail later.


    Some highly reputable scientific institutions such as the Smithsonian have even been accused of destroying or removing physical evidences which might support reports recorded in Genesis such as extraordinarily large human remains.


    What would be the legal status of a half human creature ? It is also noted here that more people go missing in the forests of North America than in any other place on earth. This also can be explored in more detail later.


    Biblical Hypothesis.


    As reported in the Time magazine article scientists have and are creating half human half ape hybrids in laboratories. There are reports of the Russian military attempting to create such creatures in the early 1900's.


    It has also been noted by modern scientists that in the terrible and unlikely instance of a human mating with a primate such as a Chimpanzee or Gorilla (in contraversion of Jehovah's Levitical law) that such events would not be likely to produce hybrid offspring of any kind due to a mismatch in the number of chromosomes, although the similarity between humans and great apes is closer than between humans and any other living creatures.


    The forms of great beasts do exist in the heavens according to scripture. Jehovah's qualities are depicted by four living creatures. If the greatest of all god's, the 'ancient one of days' reflects qualities such as power as embodied by the form of a bull and there is actually at least one creature mentioned as living and having this form in the spirit realm. What might Jehovah have been expressing with his creation of the great apes who are so like us? Aside from the less recognised qualities of primates such as their natural grace, balance, memory and social qualities. What the great apes are often characterised with are qualities of comedy and goofiness. Is it possible that the amazing and fantastical creation of the ape is a reminder to humans of what we should be careful of in our own natures ? If Jehovah chose to warn us about not having a serious mind generally what greater and more entertaining way could be possible than creating a creature who is so like us yet an incorrigible goof. (matched only perhaps by their propensity for brutality when provoked). The great king Solomon received gifts of apes by visiting dignitaries.


    The gorilla was considered a mythical creature in the west up until the mid 1800's as recent as the 1990's the Billi ape was confirmed to exist. A type of chimp as big as a man, so confident they sleep on the ground and described as 'lion killers' due to reports of dead jungle cats in their proximity.


    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2007/jul/14/conservation.internationalnews


    The propensity for man to quickly go awry is underlined by the first transgressions after the cleansing of the earth with a flood. Immediately a line of humanity became 'cursed' due to a transgression involving Noah's nakedness. This occurs immediately post flood. Within a relatively short time Jehovah again is being troubled by mankind to the extent of his direct intervention at Babel dispersing the peoples with language so we would not be easily united against him and against ourselves through science and politics. With man going so quickly awry after the flood is it possible that another line of corrupted humanity was created ?


    The creatures that walked off the ark in pairs were progenitors of their types. The Canid genus from whom all varieties of dogs are descendants is likely some wolf looking pair. What about the Ursa genus ? The progenitors of all bears. Did the first two look more like a polar bear or a grizzly ?


    What about the pair of apes that walked off the ark ? Whilst the modern great apes are deemed 'unlikely' matches to produce hybrid offspring with humans Could either through a rape incident or some unnatural union could a human have mated with one of those early types and created a corrutpted line of humaity which walks the earth to this day ? An abomination. An abominable snowman. Animals lack human doubt, human doubt that Jesus described men as betraying themselves with, so as not to be able to achieve feats such as he chided Peter for not holding himself on water's surface.


    Could a hybrid human primate possess abilities verging on supernature assisting them to hide themselves from modern humans ? This can be looked at in greater detail later.

    Dr Melba Ketchum


    Dr Melba Ketchum spent her education and early career qualifying and practicing as an animal veterinarian. She went on to specialise in genetics at such a high professional level as to have been hired as a contractor by the U.S. Government to examine and test the debris of the world trade center in New York with the intention of identifying genetic remains of the deceased. She earned money as a court appointed expert genetics witness in criminal cases. Dr Melba also has a denominational christian background.


    Unfortunately Dr. Ketchum was unable to continue giving evidence as a a court appointed genetics expert in criminal cases when after being presented some material for testing in her lab she determined that the material was from a creature genetically half human. She went on to prove this over one hundred times. We do not need to imagine what happens to a high level professional after making such claims. Any court case she testifies in she can be cross examined as 'the bigfoot lady' and discredited.


    What we do need to imagine is how societal effects on high level professionals might skew evidence. What is a sheriff, firefighter, forest ranger likely to do in the event of witnessing the unexplainable ? Destroy their careers, or remain silent ? Societal effects which did not exist for indigeous people.


    Dr Ketchum from her genetic research claims the Sasquatch is a hybrid creature. Hybrid vigor is an effect which creates unusual size in offspring such as the oversized tiger / lion hybrid, the liger. Also human hybrid creatures mentioned in genesis are associated with giantism. The hybrid fits the size narrative of the cryptid. Dr Ketchum also explains that the genetics suggest the creature is not ancient in the sense that it was not here before man. Man was here first. And perhaps most interestingly Dr Ketchum determines with absolute confidence that there was an original human mother and unknown father.



    https://audioboom.com/posts/7835678...uyMeX3MeOslZqMQ2c9SaUwA01e_ss4YlGltoln5FZn_FA

    Officer Chillcut

    The second and final forensic expert witness is officer Jimmy Chillcut, an officer of the law fingerprint expert, primate dermal print expert.


     
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    Chapter Two

    Missing 411
     
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    Officer David Paulides received his undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of San Francisco, and in 1977 he began a 20-year career in law enforcement, transferring in 1980 to the San Jose Police Department, working in the patrol division on the SWAT Team, patrol, and Street Crimes Unit, and a variety of assignments in the detective division.
     
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    It may be the case (Perhaps due to the modern environmental movement) that people generally are under the impression that only small amounts of forest cover remain generally.

    The data shows a North American territory with less than 50% forest is half way down the list. Essentially modern Americans, (although possibly not having a great sense of it) are living in a clearing in a forest.

    As is much of the 'developed world'.

    The same goes for many if not most other regions of the world. China 25% , Russia 50%, Europe 40%..
     
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    During his career in law enforcement officer David Paulides was approached by a concerned government employee describing a situation where high numbers of people were going missing from the US National parks under unusual circumstances and the Park Services were internalising the process.

    Paulides agreed to take a conciliatory look. What followed was to become a life mission.

    Initially he made a FOIA request to the park service authority for a list of missing people. The response he got was a request for $38 000 dollars for the list. That figure later changed to $500 000 dollars. After that he was informed that a list did not exist. Finding that the Park service authority exercised a kind of autonomous control, he found a way to do a general non specific search for regional missing persons data. Whilst understanding that people do typically go missing in forests and wildland areas, he was staggered to discover that more people go missing in US National parks than any other place on earth. That a subset of these cases exhibited strange circumstances. These cases came to become termed the Missing 411 case project.

    Missing 411.

    For a case to qualify specifically as a Missing 411 case David Paulides created a standard of criteria. The missing person must not have had a history of drug abuse and mental illness. There must be no signs of animal predation, No criminal history, also other criteria that reduce likelihood of where a person is a more typical disappearance.

    In addition to the initial strange responses from the enquiries to the authorities Paulides discovered that in certain cases special military units had arrived in the parks on the scene of the missing person. These units set up command posts yet declined offers of liaison from other local law enforcement keeping their communications separate. Apparently even when park rangers offered to assist these military units with navigating the terrain, so they wouldn't get lost, they refused. Neither did these units report information back to local police or park services regarding the initial missing people or their operations. The units would simply leave after a few days. Military units do not typically get involved in missing persons cases and there was no liason.

    In an instance of where Paulides was able to gain access to a case file the case of missing child Denis Martin, he was also able to interview the family they told him there was a 'large figure' and screams 'louder than a person could make' in the area at the time Denis went missing, but Paulides noted this was nowhere mentioned in the police report. There are a few survivors of the cases where an infant child has disappeared and been found half way up a mountain or miles from the point they went missing.

    David Paulides since noting this is a worldwide phenomenon has authored several 411 books and two 411 documentary films. He advises not to go alone into parks and wildland.

    Presiding over the 400 national parks in the U.S.A. Ken Salazar the Obama appointed cabinet minister secretary of the interior 2009-2013 states that he "does not recall" whether the U.S. National Park service keeps a list of people who go missing in the parks.

    Heidi Streetman a college professor started a petition to create a centralized national database of missing persons for the national parks and balks at the lack of government accountability for fact that this does not already exist with the available technology. She points out there is no requirement for the government to keep missing peoples records for the parks and forests.

    Practiced instinct and tenacity of this one particular veteran lawman is how the phenomenon of Missing 411 cases has received public awareness against resistance and reluctance of government and law enforcement agencies. When asked why he never draws conclusions or specifically mentions Sasquatch in his 411 material Paulides he says its intentional and he shies away from the subject and suggests not buying his 411 books from Amazon.

    Although he has published research on the cryptid.
     
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    Chapter 3 Chronicle.



    "I believe the abominable snowman may be real, there may be something in that."

    - David Attenborough, broadcaster, natural historian.




    "There is something, I don't know what it is....., every continent has an equivilent"

    - Jane Goodall, primatologist.
     
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    How many revelations about the world we inhabit are yet to become known ? In the oceans there are new creatures discovered regularly.

    In labs there are half human half monkey beings created. [It seems so unlikely that it requires reminding that half human animals do currently exit.]

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/creation-of-first-human-monkey-embryos-sparks-concern-11619442382

    The historical record of similar creatures said to be already in existence is something which can be looked at in more detail later.

    Many people would undoubtedly be surprised to learn chimera humans exist in the abominable science of modern research and military development programs . It is likely as much of a surprise to learn that sighting of mysterious creatures happen everyday. Thousands a year in North America alone.

    Groups that people might assume are 'general interest groups' on the subject seem to exist as much as support groups for the traumatised. People in rural areas complain of being harrassed and attacked by them. Others called 'habituators' claim to have ongoing gifting exchanges with them, leaving food and toys at certain locations receiving odd gifts of stone piles and arranged bones in return.

    High level professional people such as Ex S.W.A.T officer David Paulides forensic specialist officer Jimmy Chilcutt and Genetic Scientist Dr Melba Ketchum have a lot to lose in terms of professional tenure which is can also lend them credibility.

    (Amongst the undoubted fakery and hoax making attention seekers who have also come to make up a part of this story and deserving of further examination.)

    Body of Evidence, Body for evidence. Why is there no body ?

    One of the most valid questions for the existence of Sasquatch is why is there no physical body, no Sasquatch in a zoo. Some of the first nations american people who will speak on the subject (not all will) have said 'if it where an animal we would be wearing its hide and hanging its skull on the wall'. Their culture considers it a kind of person. Something with human level intelligence which can fairly easily conceal itself. Hunters who have spent years in the forest hunting game report never coming across dead carcasses of Bears, Wolves, Cougar ect. The forest reclaims the materials quickly and animals go to remote places to die. In addition to other reports that Sasquatch reclaim their dead members to burial sites. There are also the less easy [to explain or accept] suggestions that the creature (lacking the human doubt that Jesus indicated foils miracle working) has access to what we term supernatural abilities.

    However the most straight forwardly compelling reasons are noted by the most high level professional reporters on the subject. A half human creature extremely elusive, potentially dangerous, poses a huge conumdrum for the government. If one kills does it have legal rights ? Does it have territorial rights ? What does it mean for the logging industry ? What does it mean for the tourist industry ? Could a government claim legitimacy of rule without full control of such an issue ? For these and related reasons both high level professionals and casual witnesses often claim they have been approached by men associated with law enforcement but (presumably a part of a government agency) who have ordered them to either not speak on their experiences or inform them that their experience was something other than what they reported. It seems this happens most not at a general 'sighting' which can be easily dismissed as people hoaxing, or being overly imaginative, mistaken ect. This tends to occur where a person has been injured in some way. Not necessarily by a creature but in the act of panic and attempting escape, or where a person is so traumatised they are hospitalised or medicated.

    The law of Moses which forbids any kind of union between a person and an animal is evidence itself of the authenticity of biblical history. Who could have made up such a complex ancient law and had it keep its relevance for thousands of years ? The existence of law itself can be a witness in some instances.

    It may be surprising for some to learn that there are genuine existing laws on the U.S. state legislature regarding Sasquatch recognising its legal rights for protection. Washington state has a ten thousand dollar fine for killing one.


    http://washingtonbigfoot.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Whatcom-res1992-043.pdf

    Aside from law Enforcement, and Scientists the other group most associated with the cryptid is hunters. Hunters often conceal themselves in remote wildlife areas and are within a group where many detailed reports are recorded. A common response from them is that they do not shoot anything which looks like a person.

    Assuming a combination of the cryptid being instinctively elusive and the government in agreement the impetus is on the research investigator. The modern chronicle of filmed evidence is as extensive as the historical legend. It is the filmed evidence which is most controversial. With the advent of modern film making techniques no film footage or photograph will ever be a final proof. Witnesses not at a high professional level of science or law enforcement are more likely to goof or hoax. One aspect of witness evidence, which although not from high level professionals, yet still might maintain an equal level of consideration are reports from obviously traumatised witnesses. Examination of some of the modern film and eye witness testamony from trauma victims is for further consideration of the ch 3 Chronicle

    Although traumatisation can also occur for professionals.
     
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    Ch 3 Chronicle cont.


    When you look upon some of the primates that are already in existence they are so fantastic as to be hardly believable. (Although Snowflake the albino gorilla as a captive individual is no longer in existence, deceased now.) It is understandable why the creature was considered mythical in the west until the mid 1800's.

    There is so much material for as yet 'unclassified primates' one way of examining evidence is to consider data collected in the modern era as a separate chronicle. Print media, newspaper reports, visual media tend to enter the culture from a different portal than something like the spoken lore or oral tradition of First Nation Americans even though obviously modern First nations people, exist in the same 'unfortunate' mass media environment.

    Why in the 1970's did the U.S. Military include explanations of Sasquatch in reference and field operations manuals ?

    For the Army corp of Engineers, a sceince based millitary field division.


    The incursion into the human bloodline and lineage by angelic beings which occurred in the antediluvian period were not recorded in the book of Genesis until half a millenia after the event happened. Whilst the chronicle of Noah and the Ark are written in detail the attributes and antics of the angels who came to earth and fathered hybrid human offspring are not focused upon. Scripture does allude to sources external sources such as 'the book of Enoch' for details. It is also an assumption that all the people living at that time understood exactly what was happening.

    So if the human bloodline had been incurred upon in the immediate post flood era, wouldn't the bible present some evidence for it ?


    Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

    Prior to when the Earth was consumed in a flood it was becoming a place where the fullness of God's rescue plan for mankind would be unable to unfold over time. Such was the violence and corruption.

    Genesis 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

    After the flood, quickly it seems, man was developing toward a scientific culture which would have resulted in destruction for mankind before Jehovah's messianic rescue plan could unfold. This explains Jehovah;'s expression of 'anything would become possible for them'. The creator is not foiling the works of men for typical reasons. He would only do such a total effecting act to mitigate the derailing of man's redemption.

    He will act in such a way again at a future time.

    Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

    We are are given a limited example of an angel interacting with men Gabriel. We have a name. Its likely the reason there is a solitary example of a named angel interacting with humans, is that people would start worshiping them by name and calling upon them. We are none the less given a named example, we can identify and develop some sense of what our heavenly relatives are.

    If there was an incursion upon the human line by an unnatural offspring being created of a human animal hybrid it might only be mentioned in the bible if the event put the whole of humanity at risk of destruction, or if it interfered directly with the unfolding of God's rescue plan for mankind. These are ostensibly the reasons why The Flood and the confusing of languages at babel are mentioned. Yet whilst they are mentioned we can note that the accessory details of such astonishing past existance of hybrid humans are minimal and only written centuries after they actually occurred.

    A large hybrid primate poses similar dangers to humans as large predatory animals and without posing a specific threat to unfolding prophesy may not warrant specific mention in god's word in our era, at this time. Like the biblical hybrid humans who existed, perhaps the record of such beings will likewise be made at a later point. Goliath and his family are briefly mentioned as is also King Og. These people were between 9 and 13 feet tall in the post flood era. The description of them is only given because they had an interaction with proponent events. No great forensic details or explanations are otherwise given.

    The modern chronicle of Sasquatch, when the enormous volume of data is reductively regarded is congruent with the developing varieties of Noah's ark animal genus. As the progenitor pairs through ancestral descent developed into sub groups. Such as Grizzly, Polar, Kodiak, bear (Ursus). So the progenitor Ape family did also to Chimp, Gorilla, Orangutan. Although admittedly including massive variant outliers such as might be expected from a hybrid core body of reports eye witness physical descriptions of 'wildmen' as falling somewhat into the characteristics of the varieties of ape family. The peer reviewed Ketchum Genome paper suggest through the study of collected genetic material this is a relatively young hybrid species.


    Dr Melba Ketchum's paper has never been successfully challenged by officially published scientific refutations. It should be noted that double blind tests were done, twelve commercial laboratories confirmed her results without knowing what they were testing. It should also be considered how this also poses an unwelcome problem for some geneticists as the results do not speak well to the evolutionary tree. Hense aside from untenable complaints of human contamination [in over 100 double blind] test samples and actual death threats to Dr. Ketchum's legal counsel, the establishment resistance begins to take on the character of how the establishment institutions of history and science objectify all evidences which point to a world history other than the one acceptable to typical prejudice.

    Alternative to establishment institutions. 911.

     
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    Chappter 3 continued.

    Sasquatch Chronicles.

    Claire a technology proffesional from the UK on a working vaccation visited an isolated cove near Monteray to photograph sea otters. She encountered a family group of creatures who were harvesting seaweed. She passed out unconscious and came to with her coat pulled over her head with minor injuries consistant with being dragged off the cove.



    After suffering his own encounter Wes Germer began a sasquatch chronicles youtube channel he has over 700 recorded encounters which are indexed.


    515 in full

    586 (creepy young boy feeding a Sasquatch)

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    Chapter 4 Proffessor Scott Nelson & The Sierra Sounds



    Scott Nelson a college language professor at Wentworth university worked in Navy communications. His job was to intercept enemy communications. When he intercepted languages he was also trained to transcribe languages he didnt understand. This would be done by writting down the vowel and consenant sounds [in english text] to be later translated by a linguist who understood the language these sounds were being made in.

    When Scott Nelson's son began a school project on Bigfoot he inroduced his father to recordings of vocalizations. This changed Proffessor Nelson's life eventually he befrended the man who made the recordings and travelled with him several times into the Seirra mountans.

    Nelson's special training meant he immediately recognised phrases 'morphing streams' syntax. The audio (the Seirra Sounds) has been examined by laboritory technicians and confirmed to be beyond human range.

    Scott Nelson's special training as a millitary crypto linguist, college language proffesor make his expertise indismissable.

     

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