The Time is Near

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    When was the Revelation to soon take place? God gave Jesus the Revelation to show His servants what must soon take place. So then, that must mean the Revelation was fulfilled shortly after John received it, right?

    Nope...

    When does John get the Revelation? In the vision, right? That's what the Revelation is, the vision to John. So when is the vision from our Lord to John? Well, he gets it on the Lord's Day. So, Rev 1:1 through verse 8 is speaking of what John receives during that vision that takes place during the Lord's Day...

    Guess what that means. That means the Revelation takes place "quickly or "imminently" during the Lord's day when you see these things take place. Jesus already told us this, that it would be near when we see these things start to occur.

    "Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near." Luk 21:21

    "Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door." Mrk 13:29

    Rev 1:1 - 5034. soon/tachos - quickness, speed; hastily, immediately.

    You can't take the words "what must soon take place" out of the vision during the Lord's Day, because that's when the vision takes place. The Revelation is the vision John receives, and the vision doesn't start until he is in the spirit on the Lord's Day.

    You see, the first time we see John speaking is in verse 9, and everything John hears and sees happens during the Lord's Day, which means everything John sees and hears happens quickly during the vision, on the Lord's Day.

    So then, who are His servants the Revelation is to show what must take place quickly in the Lord's Day? Those living during the time the vision takes place.

    Now when is the Lord's Day? That's a completely different subject and has nothing to do with the Revelation vision taking place in the Lord's Day when the events within come quickly. Our Lord gives John the vision of what would occur quickly during the Lord's Day, whenever that takes place...

    All knowledge, all truth, all things are to the glory of the one true God Jehovah, through our Lord Christ Jesus...

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    When was the Lord's Day?

    I've read some believe John was on a Sunday...lol That John was on a Sabbath, or that John was getting this vision on Passover, calling that day the Lord's day. No proof from Scripture, just conjecture.

    So let's look at the text.

    The Interlinear reads: "I was in the Spirit in the Lord's day, and I heard a voice behind me." Rev 1:10

    That first-word egenomen (was) means came into being, came about, the idea of being born. The word was does not fit at all; that's not what the word means. Was carries the idea that you were there, that you had already been there. However, the Greek word egenomen carries the idea of just becoming, arriving.

    Then John is in the Spirit. Proponents of the Lord's Day being anything other than the Day of The Lord don't address the Spirit, other than to say he was excited, like school spirit. (rolls eyes)

    First off, the Greek word pneumati means breath, wind, and spirit (as in spiritual). So those who say the Lord's Day is a day of the week must be saying John was breathing on Saturday...lol No, rather the use of the Greek word here pneumanti will help us define what this Lord's Day is.

    John isn't saying he's breathing; he's saying he's in the same spiritual nature as the angels and our Lord Himself. The very ones giving him the vision.

    "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit." 1Pt 3:18

    This obviously makes sense; John's vision is in Heaven. There is no other definition of this word spirit that can explain John's condition other than that of the spiritual nature.

    Clearly, John mentioning the Lord's Day means he's talking about the Day of The Lord. We know this because the vision John receives is the same prophecies contained in both, and the countless connections between the Lord's Day and the Day of The Lord prove this connection beyond any doubt. Obviously, Revelation is talking about the same events as described throughout all the NT of the end times...

    "Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.” Rev 16:15

    "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare." 2Pt 3:10

    "Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." 1Cor 1:7,8

    "Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” Rev 14:15

    "Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." Mth 24:30

    There are so many connections from Revelation to the Day of The Lord we could do this all day.

    Needless to say, John wasn't experiencing teen spirit, and clearly wasn't trying to tell us he was still breathing... ;)

    All love...

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