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    Apparently it's going to be fairly easy to make religious practice illegal / banned, when the supposed "Republican constitutional" party will without hesitation agree (at least, it's adherents, who largely are supporting Trump now) that banning an entire group based on religion is a "good thing".

    This is extremely disturbing; and in case you haven't read the news in the last few days, Donald Trump is calling for a ban on Muslims entering the US, en masse.

    It's not hard to see where this goes ..
     
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    Yes, I posted about this in our "news" section. Isn't it interesting that religious freedom is being discussed in the US as the main topic right now?
     
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    You and your "sections" :)

    But yes, insane! I feel like we're on a constantly accelerating path towards *something*.

    Jokers on the left, fools on the right ...
     
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    Aaaahhh! ...I don't find this disturbing....to me it's encouraging...the harder it gets....the closer we are..........am I scared tho....sure am!!!!
     
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    Trump is a swaggerer and has definitely a very populist stance. His speeches are nothing more than verbal diarrhea and the people applaud his show as if what he says were amazing. In the USA, you don't need djihadists to be the victim of terror attacks since you already slaughter yourselves by the hundreds each year. You'd better fear the bullets that the real guy next door might shoot at you than the hypothetical djihadist having traveled incognito thousands of miles just to blow himself up right besides you while you're sniffing for a ripe melon in your nearest Target shop....

    Source : 1,052 mass shootings in 1,066 days: this is what America's gun crisis looks like

    He'd better do something about the gun control and/or the millions of mentally insane people who are left in the lurch and at large in the streets because they don't have money to pay their treatments or to see a therapist. In my opinion, nothing of what he says will happen.
     
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    You know it doesn't matter to most people what the numbers are. It's all about what's in the prime time news. People turn on the TV or internet and believe what is written.

    So saying you are more at risk because of gun ownership today has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Besides the NRA would never allow gun ownership to become an issue.

    I don't think most people even understand how many firearms US citizens actually own. There are 112 firearms to every 100 person. The US has half the guns on the planet.

    In my opinion if he does get elected, what he says will happen.

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    That's totally inapplicable !

    How will you determine the religion of the many millions of people who hit the US ground each year ? Will you ask them before granting them a visa ? What guarantee will you have that they don't lie ? Will you set up a booth at each and every international airport, harbour in the world and border checkpoint neighbouring the USA with ham, saucisson and cured ham so you can be sure that Mr Mohamed Al-so-and-so hasn't lied when he said that he was a Christian.... unless you want him to sing Ave Maria or to cross himself in front of you ? I wouldn't comply either... What of the converts, the converts who have become Christian and the Christians who have become Muslim ?

    I repeat, that's totally inapplicable !

    ...and I haven't broached yet the economic cost and loss of such measures....

    That's mere hot air!
     
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    He wants a questionnaire for those not already established in a database.

    These are just things he's saying out loud, what do you think his ideas are that haven't been said?
     
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    Agreed, it is hot air.

    The conceptual precedent is what is interesting; and how quickly American's will seemingly hyperventilate and have unreasoned reactions.

    "Jehovah's Witnesses won't go to war, and they believe the US is going to turn into a global dictatorship, ban them, ban them!"

    Thinking - agreed :) mostly.
     
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    Agreed, the US is not rational at all as a group. I don't think people outside this country really understand that. Americans are concerned with the cheeseburger in front of them and the baseball game they need to get too. The news is like a popularity contest, one story becomes the main topic for days regardless of the rational.
     
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    Exactly right.

    And while this same idea exists in all nations, the confluence of "democracy", wealth, technology and warfare are the most dangerous combinations ever to exist on this planet in the form of empire.

    It's ain't gonna be perty.
     
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    And the more Trump talks about singling out people by religious beliefs, the more viewers like him. A Bloomberg poll when asked if they support his comments on banning muslims from entering this country, 65% of Republican voters said yes! 22% opposed!

    People around the world should understand and watch what's going on here. These are some serious matters. The media is very corrupt, and the people are very fed up with it. The media wants to tell people what to think, yet those who think for themselves are tired of the media speaking for them, and first and foremost are tired of political correctness, this is why Trump is doing so well.

    Full disclosure here, those of you who know, are aware that I believe the next thing we see in prophecy is hurling of denunciations against the holy covenant, and then the courtyard around the temple to come down, meaning the constant feature organizational structure currently announcing Jehovah's kingdom to the world. If this man becomes president of the United States of America it seems quite likely he would accomplish such a thing.

    This would begin the start of the time of the end, effecting this entire planet. The richest country in the history of the world, the largest and most powerful military the world has ever known, and as you said SingleCell, throw in boardroom and activism led by freedom and you have a very dangerous mix.
     
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    that I believe the next thing we see in prophecy is hurling of denunciations against the holy covenant, and then the courtyard around the temple to come down,

    yes the the world stage has been set up.....Indival is over...the final act is ready to appear......I am in awe that we are living in these unbelievably prophetic times....

    we are all eager for it to start..and yet not so stupid as not to be frightened of what is coming...for who likes to be persecuted..or threshed as the apostles were...
    Yet this is when those of us here who have been terribly hurt in the org...those who have suffered....this is when our endurance and suffering will show its rewards....it has toughened us up.....and when all these things begin to happen...we surely will lift our heads up...knowing full well our deliverance is near....

    i guess it will only be then that we will be so happy that we had been toughened up by our previous pains..and hurts ....it will give us an...." Edge" ..that others will not have ...who have not suffered within the org ..it will help us help them in this coming dreadful time of confusion for them....well that's the way I see it anyway....

    sis thinking
     
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    Yes sister!

    One could say "when they are made to stumble, they will be given a little help" in the wilderness "where she is to be fed for a time and times and half a time"

    (Daniel 11:34 + Revelation 12:14b)

    Fed by the FAITHFUL and DISCREET slave.
     
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    It's crazy isn't it?

    Where is Jan ... I dismissed his "Trump" comments last month LOL; Trump initiates the Trumpets ;)

    [we'll see .. I'm skeptical until I'm not haha]

    Get on IM Jstone :)
     
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    "Trump initiates the Trumpets" That's good! Nice job...

    I am on IM, your not... :p
     
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    Hello, here I am.
    Trump the fierce-looking king.
    Think if somebody would suggest Trump to propose to ban Jehovah's witnesses preaching. Surely Trump could gain a lot of support for that. He could regard that as a smart move to get more votes.

    This is serious. But it is also very exciting because we can now expect the approximate timeframe for Jesus' second coming.
     
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    Trump is smart. He knows what disturbs the majority. Illigal immigration, gangs, Muslims, special interests in politics, banks, mainstream media etc.

    And he seems to dislike those also personally. So by attacking those smaller groups he gets the majority's support.
     
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    Hey brother! What an ego on this man Trump; I wouldn't put anything past him.
     
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    Jan, exactly...
     

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