Watchtower study edition February 2014

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    Must admit , some of the study is all over the place.
    Now the angels are "the daughters of the kings"
    those that fall asleep in death now precede in
    the resurrection before those who are transformed
    while still alive , and now those anointed as the
    bride will be whisked away in a rapture BEFORE
    armageddon . I thank my God in Jesus Christ our
    Lord that I don't have to "rely" on the WT as
    the sole source of truth and of the Word of God .
    yikes . In all my years reading this reversal of
    when the "rapture" is was completely unexpected ..
    Did the writers admit that this was a distinct
    change from what has been vociferously denied
    over the last century ...no not a peep ...arrrhhggg
     
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    I cant beleive it more changes? somebody tell me its not true! now you know why I politely stoped attending..the bible says jehovah is consistent, not changeing, so is his word and the gospel..if we tell forth the bibles gospel we obey jesus,and we keep it pure and safe.
     
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    "Do not put YOUR trust in nobles,
    Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
    "- Ps 146:3

    If your Master is Jesus, why do you care so much about what some "nobles" might say ? Let them boast, let them bark...!

    Besides, Jesus said plainly what his anointed brothers would have to do. They just have to keep doing it, provided they understand correctly what it was in the first place !

    As for the unfaithful ones :

    Amos 4:12 - CJB

    “This is why I will deal with you in this way, Isra’el;
    and because I will deal with you in this way,
    prepare to meet your God, Isra’el
    "
     
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    Here is spiritual reality...

    “And the ones having insight will shine like the brightness of the expanse; and those who are bringing the many to righteousness, like the stars to time indefinite, even forever." - Dn 12:3

    "And as regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many." - Dn 11:3

    "At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen." - Matthew 13:43

    "and yet they could not hold their own against the wisdom and the spirit with which he was speaking." - Acts 6:10

    Holy Spirit gave for sure some spiritual understanding to our anointed brothers back in the XIX[SUP]th[/SUP] century. However, their spiritual heirs aren't able to hold a candle to them in many ways. They're clutching at straws in order to keep their spiritual legacy and authority, which they never earned... Interestingly, I love that sentence : Get up and earn your wings tonight ! The GB has for sure helped thousands of people to get closer to God but regarding the biblical verses quoted above, they really suffer in comparison with what the revealed Sons of God, Jesus' brothers, will be like...

    What kind of wings did the members of the GB earn on their own ? Can't they see that we all humans keep falling short of what our world needs so as to find real solace and spiritual enlightment at last ?

    I know... They can't... !

    They aren't the guardians of their brothers and sisters' faith. The latter doesn't belong to them. They may want to be like Paul in the way he was looking after his b/s spiritual needs but they certainly don't have his spiritual authority... They have placed themselves in a position of spiritual authority that can't be held unless Holy Spirit really backs up their deeds and words. Jesus was misunderstood at times, but he was always right anyway. In his case, it wasn't a question of groping on spiritual grounds till the day is firmly established. His speech was truthful but way above his audience's grasp. The members of the GB are nothing like this, in many ways !
     
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    in reading revelation I read that those who were killed for jesus sake get resurected first, and the rest did not come to life until the thousand years had ended..
    correct me if im wrong but calling the angels daughters is straight out of the book of mormon. I give up Im going to grow a scraggly beard, fill my refridgerator with cheap beer, and become a member of the church of redneck, first we spend years preaching door to door against strange non biblical doctorines, and now they are in the watchtower? as truth? I wonder if its to late for me to become a buddist?l.o.l
     
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    I guess it's just finally dawned on me how much
    I ignored what was "published" as truth ..I was
    always off on my little quest to improve my own
    character after realizing I hadn't been taught
    anything about human qualities in any of the
    families I lived with . My X loved "doctrine" and
    tho I have a grand respect for learning , having
    been given a taste of the exquisite nature of
    flawless love , I find doctrine far less attractive
    over the pursuit of excellence of character . Life
    is so attractive in all its brilliance and wonder
    that the small scrabbling of being boxed into a mold
    made by men feels like manacles and shackles .
    I realize I am now fully free to learn whatever the
    Master requires and in his own time and direction.
    JIG always love your expressions they bring me
    back to the enthusiasm of being among the "jesus
    people" back in the early 70's (I did enjoy them)
    Utoo , always erudite and clear in expression ..
    and the clarity of some here on the boards threads
    have helped my own clarity of thought ..thank
    you always for allowing my own expressions on this
    forum ..It has helped me alot in understanding that
    the Father has never pegged a single form for life
    but its diversity , in that those who received his
    approval ranged from the barefoot dressed in camel
    hair to wearing the robes of Kings or even those
    employed by Kings ...I have never been able to mold
    myself to that required in the "kingdom halls" and I
    am now fully free to pursue that which I am by Gods
    own design called to be ..the predicament is how to
    function fully not tied to a sectarian belief system .
     
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    Dear poetry of providence, when I was a kid in the 60s I truely looked forward to the comeing paradise, and soon ment a year or months to me. as the years went by the watchtower studys became longer, more complex, and less beleiveable as I watched 1975 come and go, it finally became clear that I was just a donkey with someone sitting on my back dangling a carot in front of my nose. I never pursued colledge, because armagedon was comeing any minute now! I was in my 20s when I decided that enough was enough and it was time to do something fun! well bad desision! I used drugs and 14 years of my life burned up in the smoke, and lots of money! when I finally hit bottom and found myself in a jail cell, I saw many men who downright cursed god..I prayed silently god dont ever let me become like them! and instantly a voice in my head said son you already are! well That was the first time I had heard from god, and it got my attention beleive me! I had so many qustions for him, but he paitently instructed me on what I had to do. anyway it was march 1994 when I started to beleive in a real god and the journey from indoctorinated to in love with grace, mercy and a god that talks back was one heck of an exciteing journey! today I dont care if armagedon comes.I dont really care about all the explainations in the books..what I care about most is seeing the evidence of a liveing god everyday as I go about this life.I know direct from him that we all get woke up from death to either a wonderful new life or a not so wonderful judgement period..I just wish the watchtower would focus more on that fact and being right with jehovah rather then all those sighns and prophecys that prove jesus christ is comeing soon...I have some news for them jesus came back 2013 years ago and he has been standing at our door knocking hopeing someone will let him show them how to start to live,and forget about all the silly doctorines that dont mean a thing but confusion... ok I wont hog up your thread anymore...
     

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