Welcome Jan and BJ to the forum . hope you will find stimulating subjects , good friends , well rounded perspectives and an occasional "crack you up" . While life is a "dead serious subject" it also has manifestly lead many to more joy and humor in it's abundance of diversity ...
Yes, a warm welcome to Jan ! I can't wait to read more from you ! (BJ and Jan are the same person. During the registration process, BJ asked to change his pseudo to Jan).
Hi unstopableravens, Welcome to the forum. I'm just asking this out of curiosity - would you be a football fan, by any chance? (I often wonder about the usernames that people choose and why they choose them.)
I was waiting for her first post before welcoming her officially ! A warm welcome to AnnOMaly !!!! May you find here a friendly and stalwart community and us a new fellow member from whom we will draw encouragements and solid food for thoughts...
Thanks. So this is where it is. Well I like to call myself an open minded Jehovah's witness who preaches the truth, but will also call my own team on fouls I see. I just keep it to myself in the cong. But I feel the DFing modern "Inquisition" has gotten a little out of hand, the fear is eclipsing the salvation offer of Christ, but the JW ministry has represented the truth the furthest any "reformation" has ever taken it. Some times reform has to continue, at other times judgment is what allows a reformation, in any event as much as I believe in God, Christ and the Kingdom certainty I sense a problem is now present at Bethel, and the classic ministerial lead guide "oracle" is now absent at Bethel, and the real "new light" seems to have also died with Fred Franz. There is no way Gerrit and Lett are Fred Franz caliber, they are blase, uninspired, bored, distracted, over-corn-fed, DOLTS, imo. Sorry, that is how I see and hear them, dry, boring, passionless, and forced. But in the meantime I have entertained the views of many others, have done so at the door and so found it strange for Bethel to want JWs to place their tail between their legs and flee from "apostates" on the Web, I find it cowardly and presumptuous when maybe our own leaders is where the apostasy is to form, eh? LOL But in the meantime people have listened to me as I awoke them at 10 am on Saturday, and so I also try to listen to others, REGARDLESS of their view. The more I look I feel God is not happy completely with the modern JW ministry, though I am still in it, but at the same time the scriptural focus of debate of the past, has also been eclipsed by various Bethel polices and debacles as what more and more people want to discuss. For example the more UN NGO and pedophile questions I have to field in the ministry, the less I feel like defending Bethel sins door to door. In 1990 I had none of these kinds of questions, and frankly it pisses me off that Bethel will not address their own dirty laundry, which KILLS TIME in my own ministry for me to have to do it for them, with ZERO confession from Bethel. To be truthful I am getting ready to "fade out", BUT I feel it will not affect my faith in Jehovah and Christ and LESS faith in this devolving org, to tell you the truth. End rant, lol. In all this I forgot to say God's Kingdom will come, and in like manner Bethel has created that kind of distraction, it is now the GB show, imo, and that illustrates the problem Bethel is creating, they are aloof remote self-placed elites who forgot what we are doing out here, imo. No wonder JW growth has stagnated. Regards, Thanks
Nice post my friend... You have nailed it on the head, Jehovah's Witnesses are the modern temple of Jehovah, and just as in the year 70CE it is destined to go down from it's errors. On the other side this earthly representation of Jehovah's kingdom will be rebuilt with the guidance of the true two witnesses of Christ. For more on this subject read HERE. Hang in there, your faith with works is not in vain, nor unnoticed. I appreciate what you are doing, greatly. The call to flee will not be for some time... Welcome home... A.J.
Well thanks. I might take off early though, lol. Yes it is not in vain for any Jehovah's witness and I think anyone sincerely seeking to emulate Jesus Christ and get reconciled with God by that offer. I feel like I see you do too, that the early patterns in the Bible actually contain the principles that seem to repeat, and recently I have come to feel this house now, will also go through a judgment, and as before it will serve as a clarifying wake up call to prepare for Christ's return for real. I think that pattern is clear in former judgments. I actually feel many JWs deep down also consider things like these if they notice the blood of the org has really turned to stone. I think talking to a brother the other day, we started talking King North, and instead of spontaneously being able to consider the possibilities, the brain dead modern GB has set in a strange mind trip where no one can say a word without the approval of those dolts, with all due respect I mean DOLTS, as they invisibly haunt the brothers and sisters with an air of stagnating fear. Obviously as others have pointed out trying to justify the USSR in Daniel 11 becomes literally IMPOSSIBLE. But if the leadership has taken this course, much like the fossil versions of Christendom's various extinct species, then one has to let them reap what they are sowing,it certainly is not the tradition of former spearhead brothers who pushed the envelope and examined evidence. (I mean look at Charles Russell version of Revelation 11, it was a miracle how fast Rutherford dumped the Papacy from any real prominence in Revelation to pick up quickly on the 7th world power and the League of Nations meaning. They updated, as needed, on the spot. Today's "Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy" made such little progress me and a sister have an inside joke, we call it "Do Not Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy" it is so stuck in the past in spite of the fall of the USSR) But anyhow it seems I see more and more people on-line, from JWs, seeing various symptoms of the cancer that has spread from Bethel, using the JW host to feed itself and strip the sheep, and "lift up" as sole self judged "FDS". It is becoming impossible to defend them in person, or on-line, so I will, I think, fade out beforehand, take a vacation, and devote more time to actual in-depth personal study, and get off the freeze dried milk and rubber fruit diet with bad water that Bethel has been cookie-cuttering from the past, merely reworded like SEO. LOL (I feel the spirit is lacking in the ministry, and vacating, and my drive is diminished; I stopped defending the UN NGO and pedophiles and shunning on-line, and more and more my ministry seems to be morphing into one of judgment—needed judgment on the modern Pharisees up at Bethel. In their way, the have re-motivated me in a new direction, but I feel truthfully it is now more relevant. In any event I think you are right, the "Bethel hits the fan" days are coming, and imo they are their own worst enemy. I just can't lie to people any longer for them, I especially do not think a UN NGO, in its reproach alone, has God's thumbs up. NO WAY. I think that has become the turning point, I will not tow our UN "party line" in the personal ministry any longer, and since they will not even address the issue once in official form, they seem like the typical guilty parties and cowards in denial; sweep it under the rug, hope it goes away. Well thanks I will drop by and read more.
Hi 4winds: Hope you like it here and can continue to learn and contribute new ideas for us all to ponder. Welcome! frank